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Title: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Nigel Evans on September 15, 2019, 07:38:13 AM
Read this link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2950648/Toxic-orange-cloud-created-nitric-acid-explosion-chemical-plant-spreads-FIVE-Spanish-towns-forcing-authorities-order-stay-inside.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2950648/Toxic-orange-cloud-created-nitric-acid-explosion-chemical-plant-spreads-FIVE-Spanish-towns-forcing-authorities-order-stay-inside.html)
and then this one: https://dyatlovpass.com/irina-rashevskaya-1?rbid=18461 (https://dyatlovpass.com/irina-rashevskaya-1?rbid=18461)
and then this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-75_Dvina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-75_Dvina)



Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Nigel Evans on September 15, 2019, 07:45:13 AM
and this - https://www.hindawi.com/journals/criem/2019/9303170/ (https://www.hindawi.com/journals/criem/2019/9303170/) explains people traversing the slope then just giving up, and Doroshenko's foam on cheek.
Nitric acid burns the skin and eyes which may explain Zinaida's face.
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Jacques-Emile on September 16, 2019, 07:52:24 AM
and this - https://www.hindawi.com/journals/criem/2019/9303170/explains people traversing the slope then just giving up, and Doroshenko's foam on cheek.
Nitric acid burns the skin and eyes which may explain Zinaida's face.
  Not the Agent Orange? lol2
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Nigel Evans on September 17, 2019, 12:40:00 AM
It's an orange agent....
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Marchesk on September 17, 2019, 01:38:58 PM
It's an orange agent....

Trump or Putin?
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Nigel Evans on September 17, 2019, 02:08:50 PM
It's an orange agent....

Trump or Putin?
It's a gas.... lol4
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Star man on September 20, 2019, 04:42:48 AM
There is some evidence that this orange colour/staining may be the result of a type of algae bloom.  Were all the hikers skin stained orange or was it just the rav 4?

Regards
Star man
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Nigel Evans on September 21, 2019, 12:19:06 PM
There is some evidence that this orange colour/staining may be the result of a type of algae bloom.  Were all the hikers skin stained orange or was it just the rav 4?

Regards
Star man
I've discussed watermelon snow in the past, but i can't see it as relevant.
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: cennetkusu on September 22, 2019, 05:42:08 AM
There is some evidence that this orange colour/staining may be the result of a type of algae bloom.  Were all the hikers skin stained orange or was it just the rav 4?

Regards
Star man
I think it's easy to explain the color issue. To me, every human being has a color. So, for example, everyone has a sign or a number. Every human being has its own color. When the unknown coercive force attacked the youth, this color within the human became clear and manifested itself in the skin. For example, Dubinina had a yellow color and Semyon had a green color.
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Star man on September 23, 2019, 11:44:32 PM
There is some evidence that this orange colour/staining may be the result of a type of algae bloom.  Were all the hikers skin stained orange or was it just the rav 4?

Regards
Star man
I've discussed watermelon snow in the past, but i can't see it as relevant.

Is it not possible that the pigments from bacterial blooms could contaminate the ground waters and stain the skin orange/brown while also adhering to fabric causing the orange powder when they dry out?

Regards

Star man
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Nigel Evans on September 24, 2019, 11:47:15 AM
Not really, the orange powder stained clothing appears to have been limited to the first five? Primarily Yuri D who had the darkest skin (compared to Zina).
Only Lyudmila had skin colour relevant to this issue which as already said seems to rule out an agent delivered whilst under the snow.
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Star man on September 24, 2019, 01:13:45 PM
Ok thanks for clarifying that.

Regards

Star man
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: sarapuk on September 30, 2019, 10:59:17 AM
No mention of any strange out of the ordinary COLOURS by any of the Search parties was there   !  ?  And surely if there had been such a Chemical attack or accident then we would have had much more evidence around  !  ?
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Nigel Evans on September 30, 2019, 01:37:44 PM
No mention of any strange out of the ordinary COLOURS by any of the Search parties was there   !  ?  And surely if there had been such a Chemical attack or accident then we would have had much more evidence around  !  ?
The condition of the snow might be more evidence?....
More to come on this...
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Nigel Evans on October 04, 2019, 11:57:23 PM
I've been surfing around for more possibilities as to the source of the nitric acid apart from the SA-75 SAM and have found this  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burya
Essentially a cruise missile developed in the late 1950s. There were several variants of this concept including being armed with low yield tactical nuclear warheads for naval deployment, attacking aircraft carriers etc.

Whats interesting is the scale of the thing, 96000kg with a good fraction of that of course being fuel which was composed of..... nitric acid and amines.
If you've never heard of amines you've got company, but note the colours mentioned here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amine#Application_of_amines
I wonder if that orange powder on the clothing was a diazonium salt?



Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Spygirl 1 on October 05, 2019, 11:24:35 AM
Hello-

This post originally had a lengthy "essay". Kinda lost my nerve so edited to this.

Sorry
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Nigel Evans on October 06, 2019, 03:29:20 AM
Hello-

This post originally had a lengthy "essay". Kinda lost my nerve so edited to this.

Sorry
Hi Spygirl 1, I read your original post with interest, never say sorry   kewl1
Title: Re: Red fuming nitric acid
Post by: Nigel Evans on October 06, 2019, 03:51:28 AM
and don't be a Shygirl...  loco1