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Murdered / Re: My short take on murder.
« Last post by Loose}{Cannon on August 25, 2019, 04:35:36 AM »
Probably should start a new topic thread for your theory. 
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General Discussion / Re: Specific details
« Last post by Loose}{Cannon on August 25, 2019, 04:32:55 AM »
The epidermis is specific to the outer layer of skin though not the whole skin tissue.

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Star man

and?
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Yeti / Snowman / Re: Exploring The Yeti Theory
« Last post by Loose}{Cannon on August 25, 2019, 04:31:46 AM »
Just another quick thought on the hyoid bone.  The autopsy report mentions "unusual" movement of the bone.  If it is normal for the bone to loosen due to decomposition why would the autopsy describe it as "usual"

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Star man

I dunno but analyzing every word from a google chosen translation......  meh
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Yeti / Snowman / Re: Exploring The Yeti Theory
« Last post by Star man on August 25, 2019, 04:23:21 AM »
Just another quick thought on the hyoid bone.  The autopsy report mentions "unusual" movement of the bone.  If it is normal for the bone to loosen due to decomposition why would the autopsy describe it as "usual"

Regards

Star man
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General Discussion / Re: Specific details
« Last post by Star man on August 25, 2019, 01:41:13 AM »
The epidermis is specific to the outer layer of skin though not the whole skin tissue.

Regards

Star man
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Yeti / Snowman / Re: Exploring The Yeti Theory
« Last post by Star man on August 25, 2019, 01:39:03 AM »
Extract from the www:

Hyoid bone, U-shaped bone situated at the root of the tongue in the front of the neck and between the lower jaw and the largest cartilage of the larynx, or voice box. The primary function of the hyoid bone is to serve as an anchoring structure for the tongue.


In Lyuda's autopsy report the "unusual movement of the hyoid bone is mentioned".

Bacterial or rodent damage?

Regards

Star man

If the entire area is decomposed, is it a wonder it has movement?

I don't know.  But it could be an important piece of evidence about the tongue.  I can certainly understand it could be damaged if it was forcefully ripped out, but I don't know enough to say if it could be loosened by decomposition.

Regards

Star man
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Murdered / Re: My short take on murder.
« Last post by jarrfan on August 24, 2019, 10:37:03 PM »
Dear Starman: My take is that Semyon joined the group with a plan in place to cross the border into Finland from Ortolem. He would have to have had assistance from people who would help him go the 1,772 miles to the Finnish border. It is possible some of the other male hikers knew or were told of his plan and were mulling around whether they should go too. I don't think either of the girls knew. This may have been what the guys were quarreling about.
 
Regardless, someone in the government found out and they are the ones who attacked. Perhaps split the group up with some at the cedar and the others at the ravine. As far as the ravine goes and the hikers found there, after reviewing their fatal blows, I do not believe they could have walked to the ravine in the condition they were in, the final beating had to take place there for these 4.

They may have been told by the guards to go and dig a den because you may have to stay in it until we can figure out who is helping the escape. Then when they finished with the others, they saw they had built the den and decided to make it their grave.

All of this is based on the fact that Semyon wanted to be called Sasha and disguise his birthday, plus him being a tour guide, he would have known the easiest route to Finland border.
 
The ravine 4 I think had to be killed in that den, they could not have done that work in the condition they were in.


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General Discussion / Re: Specific details
« Last post by Loose}{Cannon on August 24, 2019, 06:23:26 PM »
The key words are Slipping, and Sliding.

If the skin is sliding off due to decomposition, would it not me absent in areas?   whacky1

What happened to Semyons mustache?
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Yeti / Snowman / Re: Exploring The Yeti Theory
« Last post by Loose}{Cannon on August 24, 2019, 06:20:01 PM »
Extract from the www:

Hyoid bone, U-shaped bone situated at the root of the tongue in the front of the neck and between the lower jaw and the largest cartilage of the larynx, or voice box. The primary function of the hyoid bone is to serve as an anchoring structure for the tongue.


In Lyuda's autopsy report the "unusual movement of the hyoid bone is mentioned".

Bacterial or rodent damage?

Regards

Star man

If the entire area is decomposed, is it a wonder it has movement? 
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Video / Photography / Re: The Cedar Then/Now
« Last post by jarrfan on August 24, 2019, 05:52:53 PM »
I mentioned this is another section, from reading notes it is stated the bodies were about 3 m or 9 feet from the fire? Why would they be that far from the fire? Also, are they certain the cedar tree branches were used for climbing or is it possible they were used to tie, pull up the tied hands of the people for interrogating, if they were in fact attacked? The higher branch was about 15 feet up in 1959 as stated in notes. I am just wondering if the attackers used the tree for interrogations of half the hikers and the other hikers were kept down at the ravine where they started making the den in case they would be let go? This might explain the knuckle wound in the one hiker which was found in his mouth, severe terror.

Separation and interrogation is standard police practice to gather stories without the other people being able to hear the answers and then the interrogators may have gathered together to see who said what and at that point the ravine hiker sneaked up and took some clothing off of the already dead hikers in hopes they could still survive?

It was mentioned in the scene there were fir branches and dry branches which would have been better for fire and it was wondered why the hikers cut the cedar tree branches? Maybe they did not.

Is it also possible after interrogating the hikers and breaking the cedar branch, they used that as a weapon against the ravine 4? The knife was not found by the cedar tree so either the interrogators had it or it was lost somehow.

I am assuming this as a theory that Seymon was planning on fleeing the country with help from people in the town Orotenen? It is a 1,776 mile distance to the Finnish border from there and maybe he was to contact someone when he got to Ortonen, but his plan was discovered or admitted by someone who said they would assist him cross to the border? If he was a tourist guide, he probably knew the maps of most of the areas including to the borders.

Just trying to figure on any scenarios....
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