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Yeti / Snowman / Re: Exploring The Yeti Theory
« Last post by Loose}{Cannon on August 19, 2019, 06:16:27 AM »
And who said anything about a ninja that can jump 50 feet in the air? 

I have been witness on TWO occasions where someone was punched with a bare fist resulting in a crushed eye socket that was worse then Tibs injury. The eye socket is the most robust part of the human skull, and one guy lost an eyeball..... for good.  Anyone that thinks humans cannot inflict these types of injuries especially when utilizing weapons is flat out not in touch with reality.  Same goes for falling out of a tree, into a deep boulder filled ravine etc.   
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Yeti / Snowman / Re: Exploring The Yeti Theory
« Last post by Loose}{Cannon on August 19, 2019, 06:06:56 AM »
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1. Something scary enough to drive them away from the tent without adequate clothing or equipment
2. A careful decent of the slope which would be consistent with calmly walking away from a dangerous animal
3. Dropping the flash light and not stopping to retrieve it
4. The group heads for a tall cedar and climb the tree clearing branches to look back up the slope.
5. Yuri D receives scratches bruises climbing the tree his fingers and toes are severely frost bitten.  It does  not appear that he climbed the tree to collect firewood.
6. Fragments of skin found in the tree bark
7. Yuri D and Yuris K die of hypothermia.  The fire is lit too late to save their lives.


Hmmmm....   I like your enthusiasm and theories Star-Man,  but I think you may be reaching really far now.  Literally everything you list is most definitely not 'evidence' contributed to Yeti or a "large primate" dropped on the pass for some super secret experiment. 

Evidence in favor of what you propose would look more like.....

Yeti hairs
Yeti DNA
Yeti footprints
Yeti den
Yeti fingerprints
Yeti sleeping in their tent. <<. Roflmao

I think you get the idea.  Everything you list and the injuries you allocate can be contributed to.....  Anything.  It can all be an indication of goblins, trolls, mothman, and unicorn farts if you really wanna go down that road. 

Just sayin

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General Discussion / Re: New theory: tent failure!
« Last post by Star man on August 18, 2019, 11:41:53 PM »
I definitely think you should build the model with the snow blower.  Would be great fun.

On serious note though I have camped in a tent in snow storm and the snow kept building up against the side.  All I did was knocked it off the side and every hour or so dig it away from the side of the tent and I am no way as experienced as Dyatlov group.

Regards
Star man
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General Discussion / Re: New theory: tent failure!
« Last post by lucid-nonsense on August 18, 2019, 11:35:34 PM »
The cuts are more like knife cuts than drifts. Details such as the length and fineness of the cuts are not the result of drifts or axes. On the contrary, it looks like it was cut with a knife. Of course I'm not an expert in this matter. An in-depth research can be done on this subject.

That's a pretty definitive claim.  You know ice axes and steel shovels have sharp blades also....  Right?

Ice axes do not have blades.
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Yeti / Snowman / Re: Exploring The Yeti Theory
« Last post by Star man on August 18, 2019, 11:34:36 PM »
Just another observation on Thibo’s skull fracture:

If you orient the ball of the thumb to line up with Thibo’s depressed fracture then the Index finger lines up with the elongated fracture that runs around to the frontal bone and the base of the hand corresponds to the fracture that runs underneath through the saddle.  Try it. 

Regards

Star man

Interesting. Obviously it wouldnt have been a Human Hand because a Human Hand would not have been powerful enough.
Why not? There are many powerful martial artists in the world. It is strong enough to break the skull with a stroke. But you can make this kick with one hand which is powerful and skillful. That's what happened to Tibo. A man of extraordinary power did not want to deal with Tibo much, took pity on him and killed him with a single shot. The others were very angry and broke his eyes and ribs in anger.

Not a bad thought.  I have already considered this.  My conclusion is that the only martial artist capable of inflicting all of the injuries is the type that has very bad dubbing and can jump 50 foot up into the sky. 

But who knows when comparing the probability of a 50 foot jumping ninja with a Yeti.

Still- there was nothing in the Evening Otorten about 50 foot jumping super ninjas.

Regards

Star man
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Yeti / Snowman / Re: Exploring The Yeti Theory
« Last post by Star man on August 18, 2019, 10:56:06 PM »
It might be worth summarising the evidence in favour of a large ape type creature again at this point:

1. Something scary enough to drive them away from the tent without adequate clothing or equipment
2. A careful decent of the slope which would be consistent with calmly walking away from a dangerous animal
3. Dropping the flash light and not stopping to retrieve it
4. The group heads for a tall cedar and climb the tree clearing branches to look back up the slope.
5. Yuri D receives scratches bruises climbing the tree his fingers and toes are severely frost bitten.  It does  not appear that he climbed the tree to collect firewood.
6. Fragments of skin found in the tree bark
7. Yuri D and Yuris K die of hypothermia.  The fire is lit too late to save their lives.

The injuries are by far the more interesting though

Rustems head injury is inconsistent with falling and hitting your head.  His fractured skull is in the temporal region with diffuse feeding into the temporal muscle.  Falling is more likely to result in injuries to the front and back of the skull.  Rustem also had diffuse bleeding in the other temporal muscle which makes it appear that he received a blow to the head while probably lying on the ground.

Many of the group had injuries to their hands and legs consistent with punching and kicking.  It is unlikely they fighting each other but it does appear that they were attacking something.  Maybe fighting off the creature as it attacked their friends.

Thibo's head injury is identical to the shape of a thumb, but this thumb scaled up would be part of a hand that is about 30cm long and capable of delivering over 450kg of force.   The same length as the bruise on Zina's side.  Thibo has no other significant injuries.

Lyuda and Semyon have chest injuries that would require massive blows beyond that which any human could deliver.  They also have facial injuries similar to that found in ape attacks.

Kolevatov is left alive.

Dyatlov, zina die of hypothermia.  Rustem also eventually dies of hypothermia but complicated by his head injury.

One other piece of evidence which I think may also be important given the above - The Eveneing Otorten which has an entry about a Yeti.  Had one of the group seen something before the attack?

What's missing:

1.  Obviously an ape creature or Yeti
2. Foot prints
3.  Bite marks on the victims
4. The knife of the rav 4

Post edit:  oh yes the radiation- what is that all about?

Regards

Star man






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General Discussion / Re: New theory: tent failure!
« Last post by Marchesk on August 18, 2019, 09:06:18 PM »
There we have it then.  The "cut their way out of the tent" narrative takes another nosedive.

They crawled their way out of the tent just doesn't sound as good.

When you leave your house in a blizzard, do you close the door behind you?

Only when spending the night in the woods without proper attire.
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General Discussion / Re: New theory: tent failure!
« Last post by lucid-nonsense on August 18, 2019, 02:27:52 PM »
I doubt you get a skull fracture from falling down.

Such result (wounds) can be catch easily in those conditions which there exist. Here (at the forum) I already wrote about it. And I even specified in all places where it was possible to receive such wounds easily which were at all participants of Dyatlov group. Now it is very difficult to me to search for my records but if you want, you can find them under list WAB. If you do not find, bat I will try find it at following visiting to forum. But at me it is connected with the big complexities and uncertain time.

I think I remember you posting a picture of the ravine somewhere? I did look for it but I couldn't find it again?

Some people seem to believe that the terrain is really easy and safe? Like it's one smooth gentle slope from the top to the bottom of the valley? I mean, it's not the Khumbu Icefall, but it's not a walk in the park either. It would be *extremely* dangerous to navigate at night.

Just because the slope is 20 degrees overall doesn't mean it's 20 degrees the whole way. There could be a cliff in a 5 degrees slope, and at that specific spot, the angle would 90 degrees.



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General Discussion / Re: New theory: tent failure!
« Last post by Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2019, 01:14:07 PM »
There we have it then.  The "cut their way out of the tent" narrative takes another nosedive. 
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General Discussion / Re: Camp Fire vs. Severe Cold
« Last post by Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2019, 12:20:03 PM »
No no no....   grin1

You start a small fire, then chop off a branch with live needle/foliage, stick that in the fire, then use it as a torch to ignite the rest of the tree.  Evergreens like this have stuff in the foliage that goes up like gasoline. 

Totally possible.  How do you think forest fires work?
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