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October 04, 2017, 02:31:28 PM
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There could’ve been a stove incident, however I don’t think it would send them marching down the hill. They’d have stayed an dealt, as I assume happened with Rustems padded jacket burnt to memory.

October 04, 2017, 06:45:35 PM
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I think Rustems jacket was burned on the camp fire if memory serves me correctly from the diaries.    Of course, if Igors little heater invention was actually a radioisotope heater.... Ya got yourself a reason to panic.    Just an idea given some of the victims field or work/study.  Would lend reason to cover up an embarrassing situation for the Kremlin aswell.
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October 04, 2017, 07:40:53 PM
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Omg, radioisotope?! How would they use that? Would have to be encased in some lead container which I doubt they’d lug around. Oh no I don’t believe they’d be allowed to use or eat from something radioactive. Plus, it contained a chimney and they state it was fueled with logs...they’d all be glowing in the dark otherwise.... shock1

October 04, 2017, 08:21:37 PM
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Lol...  I dunno!

But I do know nasa etc likely got them down to acceptable sizes and weights. 
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November 20, 2017, 06:44:57 PM
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I don't think so, the
Eichar's novel states
'The stove is in the center of the tent, not yet assembled, and an open flask of cocoa sits frozen nearby as if waiting to be reheated. There is also a cloth napkin bearing neat slices of ham.

and group journal
Feb. 1, 1959
'While some of the hikers continue to snack on cold food, Zina and Doroshenko set the camping
stove in the center of the tent. Made of folding cast-iron panels and outfitted with a collapsible
chimney that must be twisted into proper shape, the stove is extremely tricky to put together,
particularly with cold hands. According to their mock sports page in The Evening Otorten, the
champion stove assemblers’ record is one hour, two minutes and 27.4 seconds. But on that night, the
stove just sits there in pieces.'

So, the stove wasn't assembled that night and they were low on fire wood, thus  there could not have been a fire.

November 22, 2017, 08:03:10 PM
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What if.....  there was a second heater.  One that was removed before anyone can see it in all its radioisotope glory?
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April 01, 2018, 07:25:05 PM
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Tent stoves need 3,000-5,000 BTU = 800-1,000W.  1 hour, it's a kWh or 3.6 MJ.
Wood burns at 10 MJ/kg. Burning wood at 360 g/hr gives 3.6 MJ per hour; that will heat a tent. A kilo's 2.5 hours. Why bring another fuel source but for play?
#2).  Why camp 1km from the wood fuel?
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April 03, 2018, 08:24:22 PM
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Because it works well?   Especially when not having to carry wood up the side of a mountain where there is no wood?   Sounds like a perfect time/place to test out one of Igors little inventions. 
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April 06, 2018, 06:47:25 PM
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Yes it is right, you are thats hot! ! only four see http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/rps/types.cfm = one kilo watt. Do try.  Always 600°C so pack it properly or it burns things!
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May 03, 2018, 05:06:39 AM
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There could’ve been a stove incident, however I don’t think it would send them marching down the hill. They’d have stayed an dealt, as I assume happened with Rustems padded jacket burnt to memory.

I didn't think so either. But if their efforts to vent the tent failed, and while they were waiting for the stove to stop smoking, the worst dressed of them became worried that they would freeze to death exposed on the slope like that. So they decide to go somewhere they can make a fire while they wait on the stove.

May 03, 2018, 05:11:37 AM
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Eichar's novel states
'The stove is in the center of the tent, not yet assembled, and an open flask of cocoa sits frozen nearby as if waiting to be reheated.'

However, the cocoa would have refrozen over the days prior to the tent being found.

There is also a cloth napkin bearing neat slices of ham.

And is that evidence the ham had been cooked, or was going to be cooked?

'According to their mock sports page in The Evening Otorten, the champion stove assemblers’ record is one hour, two minutes and 27.4 seconds. But on that night, the stove just sits there in pieces.'

Right, but that was written after pitching the tent that evening, so it could have been assembled that night to briefly cook food and warm up the tent, then disassembled because their location was causing a draft in the tent while venting the stove.

And the wood would have been used up on the stove. Why not leave the stove at the cache if you're not going to bring wood to heat it?