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August 26, 2019, 04:02:44 AM
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One thing about the murder theory that I think needs to be explained is this:

Why did the attackers leave Kolevatov alive?  His injuries don’t seem to be any where near as significant as the other rav 4.

Also, why use such primitive methods to take them out?  I don’t think anyone could say that they used primitive methods to remove suspicion of murder.

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Star man


I see no primitivity here.

To force the victims out of the tent in the expectation that the cold would do the job would be a very sensible thing to do for attackers who wanted to make it look like an accident. The killers knew that the nine students could not escape.

However, the temperature on this particular night was insufficient to kill the victims even after the assailants had made sure that their victims were not properly dressed, the victims had to be hunted down to accomplish the mission. This explains the injuries, and it explains why the last four had more severe injuries: They were somewhat better dressed, and had to be subjected to greater force in order to make sure that they died.

It was said that Kolevatov did not have injuries severe enough to cause death. On the contrary, his injuries are very probably lethal and strongly suggestive of him being attacked by trained killers:

"- lack of soft tissues around eyes, eyebrows are missing, skull bones are exposed
- the bridge of the nose is straight; the nose cartilage is soft when palpated and has unusual mobility; the base of the nose is flattened with the nostrils compressed (this doesn't necessarily mean broken nose)
- open wound behind ear, size 3x1.5 cm
- deformed neck
- diffuse bleeding in the underlying tissues of the left knee (not shown on diagram)
- softened and whitened skin (maceration) of the fingers and feet, sign consisted with putrefaction in a wet environment
- overall skin had a gray green color with a tinge of purple

This autopsy had similar strange silence about the injuries of the victim. Broken nose, open wound behind the ear and deformed neck might be the result of a fight and be cause of death. On the other hand it could have been caused by natural elements since the body was exposed to nature for three whole months. Yet the doctor ignores this matter and doesn't try to explain the reason for these strange injuries. We should probably add that snapped neck and blow behind the ear is a common sign of killing performed by special forces. However we can't be sure about this since the autopsy report didn't specify any more details about the body. We are left guessing on the nature and origin of these injuries."

(https://dyatlovpass.com/death#Kolevatov)

Like the others, Kolevatov suffered injuries consistent with a human attack. The close combat techniques used to create such injuries are by no means "primitive." They are brutally effective.

There are numerous testimonies from people involved in the first response and search back in 1959 that all say that they were told to say that the Dyatlov pass tragedy was an accident. Which would be another strong suggestion that it was something very different.

August 26, 2019, 04:10:15 AM
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Yes they may well have climbed the Tree to escape from something. Something that was scaring the living daylights out of them. Not a group of murderers or murderer.


When people are so scared that they desperately try to climb a tree with their bare hands, destroying their hands in the attempt to escape, the probability is high that what scared them were other human beings who pursued them.

August 26, 2019, 10:44:48 PM
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Yes they may well have climbed the Tree to escape from something. Something that was scaring the living daylights out of them. Not a group of murderers or murderer.


When people are so scared that they desperately try to climb a tree with their bare hands, destroying their hands in the attempt to escape, the probability is high that what scared them were other human beings who pursued them.

So is truer here agreement here that they climbed the tree to escape?  If that is the case then the next question would've from what or whom.  Is climbing a tree a successful escape strategy to evade humans.  Unlikely humans are intelligent and resourceful.  Would they climb the tree to escape a yeti or some other animal.  Probably not a good strategy either as most animals are better climbers than humans.  It would give them the high ground though.

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Star man

August 27, 2019, 11:37:04 AM
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Yes they may well have climbed the Tree to escape from something. Something that was scaring the living daylights out of them. Not a group of murderers or murderer.


When people are so scared that they desperately try to climb a tree with their bare hands, destroying their hands in the attempt to escape, the probability is high that what scared them were other human beings who pursued them.

Highly Debatable. More likely to be a wild animal that would scare people to such an extent or some other Being or unknown force.
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August 27, 2019, 12:18:26 PM
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