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October 05, 2018, 03:00:29 PM
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sarapuk

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Amazing isnt it, that the obvious cuts or rips or scratches would be examined but no mention of any other examination of the TENT FABRIC  ie   the examiners presumably thought a visual examination was good enough  !  ?  But even in 1959 Forensics was fairly well advanced from Victorian times. See the link ;

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/pr/160880_unit_2.pdf
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June 14, 2019, 02:48:46 PM
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soeintyphalt


hi there,

i am not sure if i am right here, but i have a question about the inspection of the tent.

i know from the reports that the hikers had several clothes.
for example: two pairs of trousers, three pairs of socks etc

but i want to know something about dyatlovs jacket(s).

dyatlovs jacket was found outside the tent:
"at the entrance of the tent in the snow was an ice axe. Near the ice axe was lying Dyatlov's jacket"
"but it was strange that Dyatlov took off his jacket outside the tent"

ok got it, but:

"The side of the tent facing uphill is not photographed. We know there was at least one hole in the tent and Dyatlov jacket was found tucked in it"

its strange but where is the source for this information? i cant find it. i have read the diaries but i cant find this information.
can somebody help me?

is there only one jacket? first tucked in a hole, then removed and lay down outside the tent or were there two separate jackets from dyatlov?

can someone help me?



June 15, 2019, 12:06:39 PM
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WAB



I suggest understand reliability written information at first. Quietly understand and not hasten about conclusions.

hi there,

i am not sure if i am right here, but i have a question about the inspection of the tent.

i know from the reports that the hikers had several clothes.
for example: two pairs of trousers, three pairs of socks etc

It is usual practice as statistic. But it does not mean that it always happens and so happens at all.


but i want to know something about dyatlovs jacket(s).

dyatlovs jacket was found outside the tent:
"at the entrance of the tent in the snow was an ice axe. Near the ice axe was lying Dyatlov's jacket"
"but it was strange that Dyatlov took off his jacket outside the tent"

I am interested, whence you took this information?
In documents of case and on polls of participants search which have found tent in first, ice axe was at tent, and about jacket of anything it has not been told.
If you about it have read that where, this is consequence of later conversations which became to myth.

ok got it, but:

"The side of the tent facing uphill is not photographed. We know there was at least one hole in the tent and Dyatlov jacket was found tucked in it"

It too became myth from later conversations and retellings, however neither in documents, nor in those memoirs mans who assorted things in chamber such is not present.

its strange but where is the source for this information? i cant find it. i have read the diaries but i cant find this information.
can somebody help me?


In that case everyone can help only itself-. It is necessary analyze information еo reliability.
On degree reliability the information can be divided into such categories:
1.   Photos from  traveling and from searches.
2.   Criminal case Documents.
3.   Memoirs of participants of searches in 1959.
4.   Other memoirs.
5.   Retellings of events during later period.
The most authentic are points #1 and #2. To the least authentic points #4 and #5 are most.
The story about jacket in hole of roof tent concerns to point #5.


is there only one jacket? first tucked in a hole, then removed and lay down outside the tent or were there two separate jackets from dyatlov?

can someone help me?

I will try make it. Yury Yudin has given the waistcoat to group of travellers which has been found dress on Dyatlov. It can be read in the document by coroner. Sheet #121. Participants of searches did not observe what or subject which stuck out in hole of tent roof.

June 16, 2019, 11:18:50 AM
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soeintyphalt


Thank you very much WAB for your respond.

Every information in my post i got from here

https://dyatlovpass.com/1959-search#the-tent


In MASLENNIKOV WITNESS TESTIMONY

https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-62-75?lid=1

(Sheet 70):
"10-15 m from the tent were found sneakers, socks and Dyatlov fur jacket."
so i am guessing this means outside the tent.

June 16, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
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WAB


Thank you very much WAB for your respond.

Every information in my post i got from here

https://dyatlovpass.com/1959-search#the-tent


In MASLENNIKOV WITNESS TESTIMONY

https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-62-75?lid=1

(Sheet 70):
"10-15 m from the tent were found sneakers, socks and Dyatlov fur jacket."
so i am guessing this means outside the tent.

Dear soeintyphalt!
Unfortunately I cannot answer you now. I already used all my time for reading and the write at forum. But I will answer you as soon as to as be able it make.