Theories Discussion > Murdered
My short take on murder.
Per Inge Oestmoen:
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--- Quote from: sarapuk on August 24, 2019, 11:40:31 AM ---Yes they may well have climbed the Tree to escape from something. Something that was scaring the living daylights out of them. Not a group of murderers or murderer.
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When people are so scared that they desperately try to climb a tree with their bare hands, destroying their hands in the attempt to escape, the probability is high that what scared them were other human beings who pursued them.
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Highly Debatable. More likely to be a wild animal that would scare people to such an extent or some other Being or unknown force.
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There is no signs that any of the victims were attacked by animals. There were no bite marks and no scratches from claws on any of them.
Their injuries and deaths strongly point to deliberate, violent and merciless human action.
sarapuk:
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--- Quote from: sarapuk on August 27, 2019, 11:37:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Per Inge Oestmoen on August 26, 2019, 04:10:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: sarapuk on August 24, 2019, 11:40:31 AM ---Yes they may well have climbed the Tree to escape from something. Something that was scaring the living daylights out of them. Not a group of murderers or murderer.
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When people are so scared that they desperately try to climb a tree with their bare hands, destroying their hands in the attempt to escape, the probability is high that what scared them were other human beings who pursued them.
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Well there were scratch marks of sorts on some of the bodies ! ? And the crush injuries.
Highly Debatable. More likely to be a wild animal that would scare people to such an extent or some other Being or unknown force.
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Monty:
Having re-read this thread several times, but stopping when it starts to diverge it's actually not a bad one. Punch up in the tent perhaps someone made a mountain out of a molehill. Spills out with someone waving a knife around. Jacket tied round arm to use as shield and then dropped. Whomever was the aggressor gets a kicking. Tent is rendered useless so decent into trees. That would mean one of the three the OP examines as being in receipt of a kicking and this the aggressor.
Why, oh why, leave yer boots? That's where it peters out.
sparrow:
Does anybody know if the Mansi, etc. served in the military?
RidgeWatcher:
Moose Hunting Strategy:
One hunter, half circles around the back (Auspiya/Cache), while catching their prey while at their least protected and unguarded moment. Knives and ice shovel are no much for rifles or guns. The Hunter's other team members who have gone north then west along the Lovza river are waiting and have already dug a bough lined pit to bury their prey. Bough line because it will soak up the blood and body content, so when they return later to gather up their kill they can empty the mass grave easily clean/cover up by throwing the dirty boughs in the steam when it thaws. At the cedar tree when the Dyatlov group are all together and ready to fight as a unit, the "one hunter" knows he is outnumbered. He waits until his Hunter buddies move from the grave to the cedar tree. Now the group can exercise control over the Dyatlov group. Could a few of the Hunters have started small fire as a beacon to all the hunters on that cold snowy night?
I think the first to move to the tent was Zina, Rustem and Igor. This was personal. Igor and Rustem (most athletic) put up a fight, they had to use more force on the stronger Rustem. Notice how Zina's face was mostly spared, they had known/talked with her and liked her. They took her down by hitting her around the side torso. They couldn't hit her face. They had talked, sang and drank with her.
When everyone, Hunters and the Dyatlov group were back at the Cedar and grouped together the Dyatlov group exchanged clothing depending on need and time constraint but then the Dyatlov 4 ran towards the ravine but were eventually rounded up caught and beaten and tortured. Is there any proof that the bough den ws made by the Dyatlo group?
The Hunters returned to the Cedar to encounter the desperate and dying Yuri's. Either the Yuri's or the Hunters climbed the Cedar to survey if they needed to tie up any loose ends. Maybe a Mansi hunter came upon the scene the following morning/day and scared the Hunters off and back down towards 2nd North, Settlement 41 or even Ivdel.
The two women were the controls in the group. The fun and well liked Zina and the outspoken and staunch Lyudmilla. Is it a coincidence the Zina's face was spared and Lyudmilal's tongue was missing?
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