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sarapuk:

--- Quote from: Aspen on February 10, 2019, 09:28:42 PM ---The above account from Yury Yakimov is the one that resonate the most with me with regard to the Dyatlov tragedy.  Interesting angle on consciousness being a factor in this phenomenon.

Perhaps I can add a few observations, as I have often ski-trekked in the backcountry of northern Canada, camping overnight.  (Yes, I have seen odd lights in the sky occasionally, but not close.) 

When laying down in the sleeping bag for the night, the most important thing is to keep booties and outer clothes right beside you.  If a quick exit is needed, e.g. the tent is on fire or avalanche, wild animals, attackers, etc, I would absolutely grab booties and sleeping bag in each hand on my way out.  If you don’t, you are dead anyway.  And nobody could make me take them off, because doing so means a slow and painful death anyway.  In the Dyatlov case, theories about attackers lack plausible motives.  No evidence of avalanche.  Infrasound wouldn’t prevent you from putting your clothes on.

There had to be something absolutely unbearable at the tent that caused these young people to flee without booties or blankets in that kind of extreme cold and walk away for a mile.  Something ‘out of this world’ so to speak, for which they were not mentally prepared.

Some facts about the Dyatlov tragedy remind me of Dr. Jacques Valle book “Confrontations” describing the well-documented UFO close encounters and injuries suffered for months on end by residents of a small Brazilian community named Colares.  They too fled in panic.  Here is a link to a summary:
https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/htm/colaresvallee.htm

In the above summary, there are links to incidents where the victims observed beams of light penetrating through the roof of their house and causing intense heat.

The lacerations and bruises on the hands of the Dyatlov group could have been caused by their frantic efforts to gather firewood, breaking branches, or digging a snow den, all with bare hands.

But the purple blotches on some of their faces could be something else.  Here is an excerpt from Jacques Vallee, describing a doctor’s report of the Colares injuries:  “Blackened skin where the light had hit, with several red-purple circles, hot and painful, two to three centimetres in diameter.”

As for the investigation cover up in the Dyatlov case, that is the same reaction that their USA counterparts had with regard to UFO reports, they too kept these things under cover to keep the public from panicking about a phenomenon that their armed forces had no control over. 

Thanks for this thread.  Analysis of this phenomenon is the first step in trying to deal with it.  Again, the consciousness angle is very interesting.  Seems to be a recurring theme in UFO encounters.

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Thank you for making a good contribution.  I have heard of the Colores mystery. Certainly sounds like something in common with other such mysteries around the World. Interesting reports about BEAMS OF LIGHT causing injuries and leaving marks similar to those found on some of the Dyatlov Group.

kurtjohnsonisd@yahoo.com:
Relative to my former posts and comments about them, I was just studying neurological research on Ayahuasca (a powerful plant psychedelic).  The research indicates that the neurological effects of Ayahuasca BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY AFFECT THE BRAIN IN THE SAME WAY ACROSS MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS result in accounts of the experience (even down to many details of how the experience is described and what is ascribed to the experience [e.g. "read into it", "stories told about it" etc.]) is very much the same individual to individual.  Thus, this research suggests that, yes, the effects of the "lights" (and or other effects with them, like if with infrasound etc.) could IN FACT have very similar disastrous effects, and be described in very similar ways, by different individuals, encountering them (the lights) at different places and different times, just as in the cases accounted for by Yakimov.  It thus might account for a likelihood that all individual experiencing the " technical properties" of the lights (or sound) would be similar.  It is good to know that research on Ayahuasca also shows this.

sarapuk:

--- Quote from: kurtjohnsonisd@yahoo.com on February 15, 2019, 08:58:54 PM ---Relative to my former posts and comments about them, I was just studying neurological research on Ayahuasca (a powerful plant psychedelic).  The research indicates that the neurological effects of Ayahuasca BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY AFFECT THE BRAIN IN THE SAME WAY ACROSS MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS result in accounts of the experience (even down to many details of how the experience is described and what is ascribed to the experience [e.g. "read into it", "stories told about it" etc.]) is very much the same individual to individual.  Thus, this research suggests that, yes, the effects of the "lights" (and or other effects with them, like if with infrasound etc.) could IN FACT have very similar disastrous effects, and be described in very similar ways, by different individuals, encountering them (the lights) at different places and different times, just as in the cases accounted for by Yakimov.  It thus might account for a likelihood that all individual experiencing the " technical properties" of the lights (or sound) would be similar.  It is good to know that research on Ayahuasca also shows this.

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But are you suggesting that drugs were involved  !  ? 

WAB:

--- Quote from: sarapuk on January 31, 2019, 01:23:18 PM ---............................
WAB.  I would like to know the size of those LIGHTS or ORBS as some people call them.

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Unfortunately your question was late at some o'clock. That day I already went to Ekaterinburg to conference. There we spoke with Yury Yakimov including about, whether it will answer questions from this forum.
He has agreed also I has already sent it your question, but yet has not received the answer. I will publish it at once, as only it will send me his e-mail.
Here a photo Yury Yakimov when it did the report at conference:

Star man:
Has anyone ever taken some soil core samples from area on Kholat Syakhl for radio and chemical analysis?  Would be interesting to see results for this and some reference core samples on the approach to the area.

Obviously would cost money to do that though

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