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The exact location of the Dyatlov group's tent
Олег Таймень:
The exact location of the tent site photograph in 1959 has been found. Of the 200 photographs taken in the winter of 2023 and 2024, the most suitable one has been selected. Now we know the exact location
This place differs from Buyanov's place by 200 meters. This is the most gentle slope of the Kholat Syakhl spur. There can be no avalanche in this place. Buyanov chose a place for his version that does not correspond to reality. His place is actually avalanche-prone. But this place was chosen specifically for the avalanche version. I am sure that Buyanov is misleading everyone.
1. In March 2023 and in the winter of 2024, more than 200 photographs were taken of the supposed location of the Dyatlov group's tent from different points, from different angles.
2. In the 1959 photo of the searchers, a vertical line was drawn strictly in the center of the frame (red line). This line runs along the location of the removed canvas tent.
3. In the same photo of the 1959 searchers, to the right of the central line, four peaks of the most noticeable outliers on the ridge in the background were marked with blue dots (these peaks are clearly visible in all modern photographs and the 1959 photograph. No one doubts their identity..
4. Since there are no noticeable outliers to the left of the red central line, the boundaries of the depression were marked, which is visible in all modern photographs and the 1959 photograph.
5. From the very bottom of the central red line, fan lines were drawn to four points of the outlier peaks and two points of the depression boundaries. The resulting landmarks for searching for a similar angle in modern photographs.
6. Over the course of one week, all the shots from 2023 and 2024 were viewed. Modern photographs were aligned along the horizon, relative to the photograph 1959. Modern photographs were scaled relative to the 1959 photograph. The same landmarks were applied to them as to the 1959 photograph. One single photograph was found that was the most suitable.
7. Two photographs (the found photograph of 2024 and the photograph of 1959) were superimposed on each other in a photo editing program.
The result is visible using the function of changing the transparency of one of the layers (all lines clearly matched):
Here is the photo that turned out to be the most suitable for the angle of the 1959 photo:
The photo was taken on February 2, 2024. On the right side is the snowmobile of Exp-2024. Further to the right is the half-barrel tent in which they lived.
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Axelrod:
In the middle of the film:
....And the guys died, some on the mountain, some in the forest. Indeed, the hypothesis very convincingly proves all the damage. This version has been gained through years of suffering, and, according to Axelrod, it covers everything. He said this: «It is necessary to convey this conjecture to the people, as they say, while I am alive.» The version is certainly good, materialistic, but there is one problem in it: in the place where the tent was, and on the entire foreseeable slope, that is, above and below there, from right to left, in principle, there can be no talk of any kind of avalanche. Any specialist will confirm this.
ORIGINAL: И ребята погибли, кто на горе, кто в лесу… Действительно, гипотеза очень убедительно доказывает все повреждения. Эта версия выстрадана годами, и, по мнению Моисея Абрамовича, она всё охватывает. Он сказал так: «Надо эту догадку донести до людей, как говорится, пока я жив». Версия, безусловно хороша, материалистична, но есть в ней одна неувязка: на том месте, где стояла палатка, и на всём склоне обозримом, то есть выше-ниже там, справа-слева, ни о какой лавине там речь идти в принципе не может. Любой специалист это подтвердит.
Ziljoe:
What is the situation behind and above the tent? I am not sure if the photos depict the exact location ? How tall were the tress in the middle of the modern photo?
Teddy:
Oleg added in the original post explanation what he did points 1-7.
Axelrod:
If Buyanov found an avalanche-prone place there, then you shouldn't rely on it as reliable information.
This is only necessary for his theory. The Ural Mountains within the Sverdlovsk region are generally not prone to avalanches.
In those places, a snowfall is possible - this is a 60% cliff at the source of the Auspiya River (the place that Dmitry Borisov discovered in January 2023), also a cliff in front of Otorten at the source of the Lozva River (Lake Lonely Goose) and other sources.
Avalanches begin to occur at an angle of 30 degrees. Or if a slope of 15-20 degrees is covered with slippery ice on which fresh snow has fallen. Was the slope where Dyatlov came covered with ice?
If you move 200 meters from the supposed tent site in any direction, the landscape is the same everywhere, and an avalanche will not occur there. In order to get buried there, you have to try specially for this, use shovels, dig the ground with an excavator or move snow with a bulldozer.
With the same success, you can achieve a landslide in the summer, if you try it really hard.
Yes. In order not to freeze in the winter, you can come in the summer and dig the ground so that you are covered with earth.
In those places where an avalanche occurs in the winter, there is a rockfall in the summer.
Although avalanches occur in the winter, they usually occur close to zero degrees. Pressed tracks also occur at warm temperatures. For the weather to change dramatically in 2-3 hours, so that you can freeze as at minus 50 degrees, this is simply fantastic.
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