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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up
« Last post by Ziljoe on June 25, 2025, 05:15:05 PM »Ziljoe,
You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t match your tone entirely, but I’ll address your points head-on.
No, I didn’t “have a dictionary for breakfast” or consult a vocal coach—though thanks for the backhanded compliment. As I’ve said before, I do make use of AI tools at times to assist with formatting, citations, or trimming the fat from a longer thought—but the ideas? Those are mine. Always have been. I’ve been clear about that. The difference is I treat AI like a research assistant, not a ghostwriter. If that offends the academic sensibilities of the forum, well, we’re having a modern conversation about a Cold War mystery—expect modern tools.
Now, regarding windburn—yes, I’m aware of what it is. I even agree it's a potential explanation. But let’s be accurate:
Ivanov didn’t describe browning needles or dry foliage. He described scorching—and not on broadleaf evergreens but on young trees’ tops, selectively, and with no noted epicenter. It’s a strange observation, and I’m not the one who made it—he did.
Which brings us to the real issue:
You’ve implied Ivanov was either incompetent or spinning a tale for cash. That's a pretty serious charge to throw at the lead investigator of a sealed Soviet case—especially when your critique is based on what he didn’t collect rather than what he did. Maybe he was working under orders. Maybe he was shut down before he could follow through. Or maybe he suspected something he couldn’t say out loud in 1959.
You can question Ivanov’s later theories—that’s fair. But don’t pretend his early observations don’t matter just because he later leaned into things that made you uncomfortable. That’s not critical thinking, that’s selective skepticism.
So let’s stay focused:
Windburn? Possible, but not confirmed.
Scorch marks on tree crowns? Still an open question.
AI-assisted phrasing? Maybe. But the arguments are mine. You’re not debating a bot—you’re debating me.
Now, shall we move forward?
Thank....you,,,,old Jedi....... I.....am......chat bot AI v 4567.03.
Everything you have mentioned has been discussed, so it means doing the searching that you can't find or won't bother looking for to cite and correct your AI.
If your going to use AI then I cannot take you seriously, especially when you don't declare it. By all means use a separate debate section and thread but please don't add more confusion to the debate by trusting AI.
Have you read anything?
Let's start here, What does a scorched tree look like?