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Avalanche theory
GlennM:
There were two locations presumed to be where the tent was on 1079. The second location identified in 2019 and corroborated by photo evidence, puts the tent on a steeper slope on which the hikers excavated a ledge for leveling their tent. It is entirely likely that a slab slip crushed the tent there. It is entirely likely the hikers left the tent assuming that if they dug out their tent immediately, continued snow movement would again cover the tent as well as themselves. They did the right thing to get away from the tent in those circumstances. Ironically, less experienced hikers would have probably stayed and dug back into the tent and survived the crisis.
Arjan:
In case the complete Dyatlov group might have left the tent area on the slope - after a snow slab might had crushed the tent - at the beginning of a cold night, there is one certainty thas is caused by thermodynamica of the human body.
The group members might have been able to keep their body core temperature at 37 degrees celcius during 2 hours by moving and performing work like making the den and gathering firewood.
After two hour, the body core temperature might had started to drop 0.5 degrees Celcius every 30 minutes.
Around 4 hours after leaving the tent area, their body core temperature might had dropped to 33 degrees celcius and they might had been in profound ful hypothermia. The full group might had fallen in apathy.
Around 6 hours after leaving the tent area, all group members might had lost consciousness for the last time in their life.
Around 8 - 12 hours after leaving the tent area, the heart of every group member had stopped beating.
Around 18 hours after leaving the tent area, the process of rigor mortis had started to develop in the bodies.
Around 36 - 48 hours after leaving the tent area, the bodies had been solidified in ice.
There is one certainty: in case the group members might had left the tent area at the same time, outsiders had placed the group members in the postures as they had been found by both search parties. These outsiders had done this within a very tight time frame, because the raised arm of Yuri Kri indicates rigor mortis in the joints.
Only Zinaida had been found in a posture that resembles death by hypothermia, the other group members had been found in a postures that do not fit death by hypothermia.
Ziljoe:
Arjan,Why do position of the bodies not resemble death by hypothermia?
Arjan:
As far as I am aware, victims of death by hypothermia are - in general - found in a more crouched posture, similar like the 'man in snow suffering from hypothermia'.
An additional fact of physics is: gravity.
Gravity ought to cause that the raised arm of Yuri Kri and the body of Igor Dyatlov should have fallen flat on the ground, unless rigor mortis had already started to develop in the joints of their body.
Hardly anyone dies with a raised arm like Yuri Kri, unless he had been lifted under his armpits, while rigor mortis had already developed in the joints of this arm.
And Yuri Dor lying neatly face down next to Yuri Kri, has all the characteristics of being places next to each other by others:
- by Zinaida and Rustem in case no outsiders had intervened (see my series of the last two days of the Dyatlov group) or
- by outsiders within a tight time frame.
Ziljoe:
Hypothermia is complicated. I agree that the to Yuri's may have been moved, buts that's possibley the rest of the group.
Dyatlov is in a classics hypothermia pose. Hypothermia victims don't end up in one position. I'm hesitant to supply pictures as the are destressing.
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