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Title: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on July 04, 2020, 02:17:26 PM
I thought I would start this Topic because of the many stories that bring UFO'S and CREATURES and MUTILATIONS, together.  Around the World reports come in on a fairly regular basis from witnesses who's statements seem to suggest that there may be a LINK.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on July 05, 2020, 03:22:38 AM
Yes it's a pattern that i've recognised.
With CM the reasons have an easy explanation, but lights connected to bigfoot sightings?Apparently the Mansi have a similar folklore with the Menk.

Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: spotterroe on July 15, 2020, 04:46:16 AM
The key explanation needed is how did Lyudmila Dubinina end up with no tongue and her eye balls missing?

This cannot be because of an avalanche and hypothermia which is the latest version just released by the Russians.
This points towards UFO involvement as it is similar to  cattle mutilations.

I don't understand why this factor has not received more attention.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on July 15, 2020, 12:31:32 PM
The key explanation needed is how did Lyudmila Dubinina end up with no tongue and her eye balls missing?

This cannot be because of an avalanche and hypothermia which is the latest version just released by the Russians.
This points towards UFO involvement as it is similar to  cattle mutilations.

I don't understand why this factor has not received more attention.

Yes I am surprised that more Members haven't voiced their opinion. I did mention Cattle Mutilations else where in this Forum a while ago.
Title: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Monty on July 15, 2020, 01:01:33 PM
For me, this evidence is bizarre, bordering on unbelievable. Could it truly be attributed to"bath skin" or decomposition? And if her rib fracture is so odd, perhaps it occurred in the position she was found? I still stand by my previous question- if the tongue was eroded, why weren't her lungs and/ or stomach full of water as the melt drained in.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on July 15, 2020, 01:26:11 PM

There are many reports from around the World over the last 50 years of a connection between UFO and BIGFOOT TYPE CREATURES and ANIMAL MUTILATIONS.  Humans are Animals.

Note that many Cattle Mutilations involve missing EYES and TONGUES.


https://rogueplanet.tv/80788/is-bigfoot-an-alien/


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Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on July 15, 2020, 01:51:04 PM
In the third photo the animal has lost it's left cheek and lips, just like Lyudmila.
Title: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Monty on July 15, 2020, 02:00:31 PM
Yes. No avalanche or ravine required.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on July 16, 2020, 04:37:42 PM
In the third photo the animal has lost it's left cheek and lips, just like Lyudmila.

And gaping eye socket, probably both eye sockets. And probably a missing tongue.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on July 16, 2020, 04:38:45 PM
Yes. No avalanche or ravine required.

Or Human attackers
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Ramses on July 24, 2020, 02:08:33 AM
I give you a link that explains the Dyatlov mystery. Make sure to watch all the episodes!

I cannot stress out enough the importance of this case that has fallen into oblivion and connects the dots on the Dyatlov case.

History channel doc, low quality:

Part 1: https://youtu.be/kfYfiS1gyB8

Part 2: https://youtu.be/9E-WHzRYBuw

Part 3:  https://youtu.be/GP8H1jauuBw

Part 4: https://youtu.be/KyTWeUsBQAA

Part 5: https://youtu.be/ppQ68kW6xLo

Part 6: https://youtu.be/KeNNCdxi-T8

Part 7: https://youtu.be/7PndRob03fU

Part 8: https://youtu.be/2cyFu315zB4

Part 9: https://youtu.be/Jvr2c1kvVJo

More in this lecture:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFObelievers/comments/hvsryu/a_very_important_and_scientific_lecture_by_ademar/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Ramses on July 24, 2020, 02:29:01 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/kgsDfs5/302c1bd9-5249-4242-af5e-3f66037809e4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MDx14xZ)
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: spotterroe on July 26, 2020, 07:27:32 PM
Although interesting, I do not see a connection between the Brazilian UFO case and the Dyatlov Pass incident.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on July 27, 2020, 01:11:44 PM
Although interesting, I do not see a connection between the Brazilian UFO case and the Dyatlov Pass incident.

Theres no actual connection just a similarity in some of the Injuries.  Its worth pointing out that UFOs are often seen in the vicinity of Animal Mutilations.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on September 23, 2020, 04:21:19 PM
Source: The Great Airship Mystery: A UFO of the 1890s, Daniel Cohen. publ. Dodd, Mead, 1st ed. 1981, ISBN-13 978-0396079903, Chapter 7, pp.92-102.

“Last Monday night about 10:30 we were awakened by a noise among the cattle. I arose thinking that perhaps my bulldog was performing pranks, but upon going to the door saw to my utter astonishment that an airship was slowly descending upon my cow lot, about forty rods [600 feet] from the house.

“Calling my tenant, Gid Heslip, and my son Wall, we seized some axes and ran to the corral. Meanwhile the ship had been gently descending until it was not more than thirty feet above the ground and we came within fifty yards of it.

“It consisted of a great cigar-shaped portion, possibly three hundred feet long, with a carriage underneath. The carriage was made of glass or some other transparent substance alternating with a narrow strip of some material. It was brightly lighted within and everything was plainly visible-it was occupied by six of the strangest beings I ever saw. They were jabbering together but we could not understand a word they said.

“Every part of the vessel which was not transparent was of a dark reddish color. We stood mute with wonder and fright. Then some noise attracted their attention and they turned a light directly upon us. Immediately on catching sight of us they turned on some unknown power, and a great turbine wheel, about thirty feet in diameter, which was revolving slowly below the craft, began to buzz and the vessel rose lightly as a bird. When about three hundred feet above us it seemed to pause and to hover directly above a two-year-old heifer which was bawling and jumping, apparently fast in the fence. Going to her, we found some material fastened in a slip knot around her neck and going up to the vessel from the heifer tangled in the wire fence. We tried to get it off but could not, so we cut the wire loose to see the ship, heifer and all, rise slowly, disappearing in the northwest.

“We went home but I was so frightened I could not sleep. Rising early Tuesday I started out on my horse, hoping to find some trace of my cow. This I failed to do, but coming back in the evening found that Link Thomas, about three or four miles west of LeRoy, had found the hide, legs and head in his field that day. He, thinking that someone had butchered a stolen beast, had brought the hide to town for identification, but was greatly mystified in not being able to find any tracks in the soft ground. After identifying the hide by my brand, I went home. But every time I would drop to sleep I would see the cursed thing, with its big lights and hideous people. I don’t know whether they are devils or angels or what; but we all saw them, and my whole family saw the ship, and I don’t want any more to do with them.”

Analysis of the Story:

The description of the craft mimics airships of that time period, the first flown by Henri Giffard’s in 1852 which was steam powered. What’s interesting about this story is how it’s very similar to today’s sightings:

Description:

“It consisted of a great cigar-shaped portion, possibly three hundred feet long.”

Cigar-shaped UFO’s are still being seen today. As of this writing, The National UFO Reporting Center has eight listings so far in 2016 from Seattle, Washington down to Eagle River, Arkansas with two separate sightings reported in Joplin, Missouri. There’s over 2500 Cigar-shaped cases reported on this website.

Animal Mutilation:

The Airship picks up a cow, and then cow parts were found three to four miles west of LeRoy and appeared to have been dropped due to leaving no tracks in the soft ground.

If that story wasn’t enough, in Volume 38, No.11 of Fate Magazine’s issue, November of 1985, was printed a story called, “Cattle-Killing UFO of 1896”. One year before Hamilton’s story, in August of 1896 in Howell County, Missouri, a family experienced a UFO encounter.

Excerpts from the Fate Magazine article:

– “All at once we saw flashing lights. At first we thought they were a star shower, but the “stars” stayed in a circle as if they were all strung together like beads.”

– “The circle of lights just kept whirling and falling towards us.”

– “ I ran to my mother and clung to her skirts, crying and shaking so hard that I could barely stand.”

– “ It stopped and hovered over the barn. We could now see it was a large saucer-like shape. It’s lights were blinding. The whole barn lot lit up like day.”

– “My father grabbed up the baby who was sleeping on a pallet and we fled into the house.”

– “The next morning when Ben took his dog Cappie and went out to the pasture to bring up the milk cows, as he always did, he came running back to the house scared out of his wits.”

– “In a large patch of burned grass were three of our steers lying dead on the ground.”

The father then examined the steers and noticed they were completely drained of blood.

Note: For a complete version of the article, please contact Fate Magazine and request, Volume 38, No.11, 1985 issue.

Real Animal Mutilation cases consist of the following:

– Animal is picked up at location A, then mutilated at location B, then placed at location C.
– Animal found with usual lesions, and lack of blood.
– Animal appears to have been dropped or placed.
– No animal struggle evidence found.
– No predator take-down evidence found.
– No human evidence found.
– No tracks of any kind!
– Sometimes strange lights are seen in the area before and even after the mutilation.

So we have two possible mutilation cases occurring in 1896 and one in 1897. Both talk about a purposed UFO and both sightings result in cattle deaths. But wait, there’s more to this.

Hamilton mutilation location, occurred around 38.062278, -95.725157
Missouri mutilation location, occurred around 36.969949, -91.892627
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on September 24, 2020, 02:01:04 PM
I've read that your article below was admitted to be a hoax.

Not just cattle we are led to believe.
https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham (https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham)
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on September 28, 2020, 02:32:22 PM
I've read that your article below was admitted to be a hoax.

Not just cattle we are led to believe.
https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham (https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham)

I clicked the link but couldnt find any reference to that story I posted.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on September 29, 2020, 06:24:03 AM
I've read that your article below was admitted to be a hoax.

Not just cattle we are led to believe.
https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham (https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham)

I clicked the link but couldnt find any reference to that story I posted.
There wasn't meant to be.  kewl1
Here's a link to the hoax story - https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/cow-abduction.htm
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on September 29, 2020, 04:22:34 PM
I've read that your article below was admitted to be a hoax.

Not just cattle we are led to believe.
https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham (https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham)

I clicked the link but couldnt find any reference to that story I posted.
There wasn't meant to be.  kewl1
Here's a link to the hoax story - https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/cow-abduction.htm

But its only an hoax according to one person ! ?  And who was that person  ! ?

 [[   Ufologists rediscovered the account in the early 1960s, and the story rebounded to life through books and magazines. In 1976, however, an elderly Kansas woman came forward­ to say that shortly before the tale was reported in the Farmer's Advocate, she had heard Hamilton boast to his wife about the story ­he had made up. Hamilton belonged to a local liars' club that delighted in the concoction of outrageous tall tales. According to the woman, "The club soon broke up after the 'airship and cow' story. I guess that one had topped them all."]]
I found this from UFOnut
[[After the article was published, it was re-printed in newspapers all over America and Europe. In his book “ANATOMY OF PHENOMENA” by researcher Jacques Vallee back in 1965, Jacques brought this article into the media lime light. Later in years some publications including Fate Magazine concluded the event was a hoax due to Alexander Hamilton being part of an elite group of citizens known as “The Liars Club”. Their information came from a 1943 article from a Kansas newspaper called, “The Buffalo Enterprise”, in which Mrs. Donna Steeby of Wichita Kansas wrote that her 93 year old mother, Ethel L Shaw when younger, had actually heard the tall-tale from Hamilton himself and he admitted it was all a hoax.]]

I found this in Texas Monthly.
[[Thanks to a long-forgotten nineteenth-century farmer named John Martin, unidentified flying objects were first described as “saucers” here in Texas. According to the article “A Strange Phenomenon” that appeared in the
Denison Daily News on January 25, 1878, Martin was hunting when he saw “a dark object high in the northern sky.” The news account states that “the peculiar shape and the velocity with which the object seemed to approach riveted his attention, and he strained his eyes to discover its character. When first noticed it appeared to be about the size of an orange, after which it continued to grow larger.
“After gazing at it for some time,” the article continues, “Mr. Martin became blind from long looking and left of viewing to rest his eyes. On resuming his view, the object was almost overhead and had increased considerably in size and appeared to be going through space at a wonderful speed. When directly over him it was about the size of a large saucer and was evidently at great height.” ]]

Note : There is no  evidence of a Liars Club in the Kansas area at that time.



Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on September 30, 2020, 04:12:51 AM
It's important to include the hoax story in the conversation to maintain balance.


What's relevant to the DPI here is that the ravine four injuries are consistent with these stories. Falling from a significant height (say 20m) onto snow, limited cattle mutilation style injuries and of course Ivanov's undying belief in fireorbs combined with curious photos.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Star man on October 02, 2020, 03:51:33 PM
The most convincing UFO incident I am aware of is the TIC TAC.  Us Navy pilot David Favour and three of his colleagues encountered a UFO off the Coast of California.  The craft exhibited very unusual manoeuvres and as they approached the craft shot off with incredible acceleration and disappeared. 

The pilots were called away from a training exercise to investigate strange radar blips that they had been monitoring for a week or so.  The radar picked them up decending from high altitude to about 20000 ft where they stayed in the same place for a while and the ascended again.  The pilots recorded video of the craft.  Later another fighter jet went to look for the TIC TAC and found it at the CAP point of the previous training mission.  There is a really good interview on utube. There hasn't been any credible explantion to explain the encounter to date.

Regards

Star man
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on October 15, 2020, 12:19:23 AM
https://www.livescience.com/unidentified-aerial-phenomena-scientific-scrutiny.html
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: RidgeWatcher on October 15, 2020, 10:07:31 AM
Hello sarape

I lived in Phoenix for 5 years. You do not have to convince me of the unexplainable in the skies or that some cattle mutilation is not of this world. However some odd things are occurring above us which is difficult to explain. The US now has a Space Force and we were all wondering why?



 https://youtu.be/CRPKPJR1k5Q (https://youtu.be/CRPKPJR1k5Q)



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Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Star man on October 20, 2020, 03:18:15 PM
I cant see any obvious link between UFOs and dpi, but it does seem that there is more serious interest in the subject now.  The problem is the subject attracts loads of crackpots too.  The Tic Tac is interesting though, and the discussion around gravity field propulsion and gravity technology.

Regards

Star man
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on October 20, 2020, 03:34:21 PM
I cant see any obvious link between UFOs and dpi, but it does seem that there is more serious interest in the subject now.  The problem is the subject attracts loads of crackpots too.  The Tic Tac is interesting though, and the discussion around gravity field propulsion and gravity technology.

Regards

Star man

I suppose some would say that the sightings of the so called fire balls are representative of the UFO interest. Also the reports of strange lights in the sky over that part of Siberia in the 1950's, could also fit the UFO category.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on October 22, 2020, 12:09:22 AM
I cant see any obvious link between UFOs and dpi


Lev Ivanov did and he saw all the evidence.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: RidgeWatcher on October 22, 2020, 11:26:58 AM
Hello sarapuk,

There are countries that freely release aerial phenomena to the public, most South American countries freely admit the existence of UFO's. I personally have attended MUFON meetings in Phoenix, Arizona. These meetings are not full of mentally ill or the sensationalists. They are full of police, military, teachers, Professors and Scientists. Everyday people who has seen things they can't explain. The U.S.Military is releasing, slowly albeit, proof of the existence of unknown aircraft. Usually they are RETIRED personal, though. In our lexicon we are calling them "tictacs" like the candies:

https://youtu.be/EDj9ZZQY2kA (https://youtu.be/EDj9ZZQY2kA)
Title: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Monty on October 22, 2020, 01:11:29 PM
Not my chosen hypothesis but: Are we saying some event draws all nine away from the tent in awe and leads them down slope, five die observing and four die in an unexplained manner?
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Star man on October 22, 2020, 03:50:06 PM
I cant see any obvious link between UFOs and dpi


Lev Ivanov did and he saw all the evidence.

There's not much else to go on though dont you think?

Regards

Star man
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on October 24, 2020, 12:58:59 AM
Not my chosen hypothesis but: Are we saying some event draws all nine away from the tent in awe and leads them down slope, five die observing and four die in an unexplained manner?


My "chosen hypothesis" would be that they have to flee the tent and then they split up on the slope with one group getting whacked probably where the flashlight was found with some of them never making the cedar. The UFO / creature / mutilation angle really comes into play with the ravine four. A feature of cattle mutilations is that the animals can appear as if dropped from the sky, (e.g. no tracks in soft mud or snow and the ground is depressed underneath). This would be an excellent solution to the rav4 injuries AND Lyudmila's head injuries are an excellent fit for CM of course.


That the rav4 injuries defy explanation but so easily fit with the CM theory makes the case for this thread.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on October 24, 2020, 01:15:20 AM
I cant see any obvious link between UFOs and dpi


Lev Ivanov did and he saw all the evidence.

There's not much else to go on though dont you think?

Regards

Star man


There's not much else to go on because Ivanov was ordered to sanitise the case file.



It all hinges on Ivanov and the Leninsky Put article. Either he is a crackpot or he isn't. If he isn't and the article is written in good faith then it's all about his "clots of energy".



Title: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Monty on October 24, 2020, 01:48:17 AM
Nigel, reply #29: It would also explain the need to bring a geiger counter and close the area. These two observations can be innocently explained in less dramatic theories but fit in this one quite neatly. What height would the person be at to sustain the injuries if dropped and from that height what would be the probability that they all made contact with the ground in roughly the same pose - that is no flailing arms or legs.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on October 24, 2020, 02:54:56 AM
Nigel, reply #29: It would also explain the need to bring a geiger counter and close the area. These two observations can be innocently explained in less dramatic theories but fit in this one quite neatly. What height would the person be at to sustain the injuries if dropped and from that height what would be the probability that they all made contact with the ground in roughly the same pose - that is no flailing arms or legs.


My favourite theory for the rav4 is that they were crushed under the snow with the force coming from a tracked vehicle or similar. This explains why the injuries are so massive but so localised but with no relevant bruising. It's a good explanation for the throat/neck trauma as well. The problem with this is of course is no signs of a tracked vehicle and no autopsy reports of signs of asphyxiation but i have my suspicions that the pathologist was under pressure to rein in on some points and promote others. E.g. each victim has wounds on the side of the head or face consistent with that side of the head being forced against a hard surface (den floor?) but in each autopsy he specifically states that they are solely from decomposition whereas the tongue is just touched on as "missing". It's curiously asymmetric.


For the falling theory estimates i've read require a drop of 60 feet which isn't possible from the terrain. Imo it's ludicrous to argue a 3 / 4 metre drop caused those injuries.


The force of the stream could have organised the "poses" of course.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on October 24, 2020, 06:39:39 AM
Hello sarapuk,

There are countries that freely release aerial phenomena to the public, most South American countries freely admit the existence of UFO's. I personally have attended MUFON meetings in Phoenix, Arizona. These meetings are not full of mentally ill or the sensationalists. They are full of police, military, teachers, Professors and Scientists. Everyday people who has seen things they can't explain. The U.S.Military is releasing, slowly albeit, proof of the existence of unknown aircraft. Usually they are RETIRED personal, though. In our lexicon we are calling them "tictacs" like the candies:

https://youtu.be/EDj9ZZQY2kA (https://youtu.be/EDj9ZZQY2kA)

Its the same in Britain. We still have a Department that looks into such matters but obviously its Top Secret. What a lot of people forget is that the Military have to investigate all such events because it may be a threat to their National Security. And that would have applied in the USSR in 1959. And there was that famous story of the US Military actually encountering UFO's in Britain, at the RAF Base, Woodbridge, Rendlesham Forest, Suffolk, in 1980. I bought some books on that particular incident some years ago, and its a fascinating event that is supposed to have happened, or should I say events , because the UFO activity occured more than once and on one occasion, allegedly, the NUKES [ which should not have been stored there ] were actually disabled temporarily by Beams of Light from a UFO. Fantasy or Fact  ! ?
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on January 22, 2021, 10:23:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5uQIj70cvw

This is a very good, sensible, documentary, well worth watching.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: marieuk on January 22, 2021, 03:38:03 PM
very interesting. Thank you for sharing.  Has anyone ever claimed to witness it happening do you know? 
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Star man on January 22, 2021, 04:24:04 PM
There is definitely a growing body of evidence and acknowledgement that we may not be alone.  Credible military personnel and ex government officials are starting to listen.  Lou Elizondo - the ex government head of ATIP has a series "Unidentified "  which are worth watching.   

Regards
Star Man
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: RidgeWatcher on January 22, 2021, 09:13:52 PM
Sarapuk,

You might benefit from reading some books by Albert S. Rosales. He puts together witness stories in clear and concise paragraphs and groups the books into 15 year intervals. You can download them on kindle. Not for the faint of heart or those who call believers "crackpots". I know someday when this world won't be able to deny these happenings are occurring any longer there will be some people who actually will lose their minds and I will not be one of them. LOL
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on January 23, 2021, 09:43:15 AM
very interesting. Thank you for sharing.  Has anyone ever claimed to witness it happening do you know?

There are reports from around the World of people having witnessed animals being lifted up into the air. Also many people have witnessed UFO activity in areas where animal mutilations have taken place.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on January 23, 2021, 09:46:09 AM
Sarapuk,

You might benefit from reading some books by Albert S. Rosales. He puts together witness stories in clear and concise paragraphs and groups the books into 15 year intervals. You can download them on kindle. Not for the faint of heart or those who call believers "crackpots". I know someday when this world won't be able to deny these happenings are occurring any longer there will be some people who actually will lose their minds and I will not be one of them. LOL

Thanks for that. No one knows how it happens but everyone who carries out Investigations or Autopsies on these animlas all agree that it can not be done by man with mans present level of technology.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on January 23, 2021, 09:56:24 AM
There is definitely a growing body of evidence and acknowledgement that we may not be alone.  Credible military personnel and ex government officials are starting to listen.  Lou Elizondo - the ex government head of ATIP has a series "Unidentified "  which are worth watching.   

Regards
Star Man

Thanks for that info. It appears that he is a controversial figure. But that US Government Department did exist and probably still does in one form or another.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: RidgeWatcher on January 23, 2021, 03:14:24 PM
https://nypost.com/2016/09/05/the-shocking-truth-behind-the-10000-animal-mutilations-in-americas-heartland/?utm_source=email_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons


It has been happening for quite awhile. I try to deflect conversation away from it because it is uncomfortable to talk about. It would appear that someone or something needs the mammal tissue cells for something or other...
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on January 24, 2021, 03:30:40 AM
https://nypost.com/2016/09/05/the-shocking-truth-behind-the-10000-animal-mutilations-in-americas-heartland/?utm_source=email_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons


It has been happening for quite awhile. I try to deflect conversation away from it because it is uncomfortable to talk about. It would appear that someone or something needs the mammal tissue cells for something or other...

I have decided to pursue the matter further. I first became aware of these Animal Mutilations some years ago when I was doing the Big Cat stuff. And since then from the various stories I have been hearing about it seems like there is a Link between UFO and Crop Circles and other disturbances on the ground and Animal Mutilations. oh and not forgetting Big Foot in its various forms.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: RidgeWatcher on January 24, 2021, 08:38:09 PM
Is the Big Cat subject similar to the Point Pleasant Mothman subject? Just curious because it always reminded me of the Native American Thunderbird subject?

Addendum:

https://nypost.com/2016/09/05/the-shocking-truth-behind-the-10000-animal-mutilations-in-americas-heartland/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on January 25, 2021, 02:52:46 PM
Is the Big Cat subject similar to the Point Pleasant Mothman subject? Just curious because it always reminded me of the Native American Thunderbird subject?

Addendum:

https://nypost.com/2016/09/05/the-shocking-truth-behind-the-10000-animal-mutilations-in-americas-heartland/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

Well thats a good question.  There may be.  What I have found was more down to Earth and likely to be real Big Cats like Black Panthers roaming the Countryside. Also Exotic Cats that people kept or still keep as pets. However I have had a few interesting experiences which defy Logic. And also many witnesses have described some unusual experiences.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: RidgeWatcher on February 02, 2021, 01:17:45 PM
Intently reading the book while keeping up with world news and just found this:

Declassified CIA Document Claims Carl Jung Accused U.S. Air Force of Covering Up Truth About UFOs

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2021/02/02/declassified-cia-document-claims-carl-jung-accused-u-s-air-force-of-covering-up-truth-about-ufos/
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on February 02, 2021, 02:17:48 PM
Intently reading the book while keeping up with world news and just found this:

Declassified CIA Document Claims Carl Jung Accused U.S. Air Force of Covering Up Truth About UFOs

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2021/02/02/declassified-cia-document-claims-carl-jung-accused-u-s-air-force-of-covering-up-truth-about-ufos/

No doubt that many Governments around the World have some interesting stuff hidden away. A lot of it is obviously for security reasons. But also Governments have a simple get out clause for anything sensitive, ie, they can simply say its ''Not In The Public Interest''. And maybe thats also the case with this Dyatlov Mystery. Except the original Government Statement was ''Overwhelming Force. That sounds safer, but leaves a lot to be thought about, and still Investigated in the year 2021.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: César de la Sierra on February 09, 2021, 03:23:22 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/7C6f0sM/1612912006012.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yPb9xHv)

(https://i.ibb.co/Mnx6YsG/Krivonischenko-camera-film1-34-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sjdH026)
Hola. Soy nuevo en este grupo. Solo quiero mostrar la última foto que han sacado a la luz y que he editado y se logra ver dentro del orbe/ luz / luminaria / OVNI? Unos seres minúsculos como si dirigieran ese orbe como una nave espacial. Parece tener una estructura en su interior. Para mi es inquietante. Enlazó esto con la Teoría de Yuri que fue seguido por luces. Para mi es una Teoría valida. Son seres de otra dimensión, pero estos con malas intenciones.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: marieuk on February 09, 2021, 04:17:44 PM
Is there a way you can make it a bit clearer what you're seeing please?
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: César de la Sierra on February 10, 2021, 01:19:17 AM
La foto de abajo pertenece a Krivonischenko's es el frame 34. Fue descartada y ahora es importante, tiene que ver con las fotos de luces de Zolotaryov. Usted puede buscar las en esta grupo en el apartado de fotos.
La primera foto que yo pongo es una edición de e foto que le acabo de comentar. He editado la bola octogonal de color gris, en la cual yo veo a slguien, igual es difícil ver o entender la foto pero yo lo veo claro.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: César de la Sierra on February 10, 2021, 01:53:45 AM
La foto de abajo pertenece a Krivonischenko's es el frame 34. Fue descartada y ahora es importante, tiene que ver con las fotos de luces de Zolotaryov. Usted puede buscar las fotos en esta grupo en el apartado de fotos.
La primera foto que yo pongo es una edición de la foto que le acabo de comentar. He editado la bola octogonal de color gris, en la cual yo veo a alguien, igual es difícil ver o entender la foto, pero yo lo veo claro.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on February 10, 2021, 12:45:10 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/7C6f0sM/1612912006012.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yPb9xHv)

(https://i.ibb.co/Mnx6YsG/Krivonischenko-camera-film1-34-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sjdH026)
Hola. Soy nuevo en este grupo. Solo quiero mostrar la última foto que han sacado a la luz y que he editado y se logra ver dentro del orbe/ luz / luminaria / OVNI? Unos seres minúsculos como si dirigieran ese orbe como una nave espacial. Parece tener una estructura en su interior. Para mi es inquietante. Enlazó esto con la Teoría de Yuri que fue seguido por luces. Para mi es una Teoría valida. Son seres de otra dimensión, pero estos con malas intenciones.


No veo nada que se parezca a Little Aliens. Veo una masa de confusión.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on February 26, 2021, 07:18:28 PM
Here is a leading researcher giving a talk on Animal and Human Mutilations. Viewer discretion is advised. Go to 1 hour and 11 minutes into the talk to see some very interesting Photographs. The Mutilations are not done by Animals or Humans. Scientists continue to be baffled as to their cause.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiqCiJfP09g
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on February 27, 2021, 02:42:33 AM
I found the audio difficult to follow. Lightning strikes could explain a lot of this. Nato special forces chasing aliens? Too David Icke for me!
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on February 27, 2021, 11:57:26 AM
I found the audio difficult to follow. Lightning strikes could explain a lot of this. Nato special forces chasing aliens? Too David Icke for me!

Yes the audio is not very good. The subject itself is worth investigating and many people are doing just that. I have made contact with one of the leaders in this field. Apparently its got the scientists baffled. The British Government now pounces on any suspected Mutilation Case and a Special Team working with DEFRA quickly remove any Mutilated animals. The Landowners, usually Farmers, are told to say nothing to anyone. So a lots going on that does not get into the public domain. As for Lightning  !  ?  No. Not from what I have gleaned and been told. There are some Lightning strikes that cause damage to animals and Humans but many of the reported Mutilations are something else. As for NATO. Not sure, although I have been told by someone with connections to the Military in Britain that there is a Department within the Miltary that looks into strange phenomenon like this along with UFO sightings etc. That sounds feasible.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: RidgeWatcher on March 02, 2021, 12:09:30 PM
Hi Sarapuk,

Anytime you want to talk off this site just message me and we can link off. Your message seems to be lost here and it sounds like you want to talk about it, as I do. There is much to be looked at and studied.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on March 02, 2021, 12:15:31 PM
Hi Sarapuk,

Anytime you want to talk off this site just message me and we can link off. Your message seems to be lost here and it sounds like you want to talk about it, as I do. There is much to be looked at and studied.

Ok. You appear to be correct. I have dropped the hint more than once over the last couple of years but no one really seems keen to pursue the subject on this Forum. I wish they would because it might explain a lot.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on March 03, 2021, 07:10:18 AM
I'm receptive to linking Lyudmila's head injuries with CM. But there are equally good explanations for her injuries.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Jeff on March 03, 2021, 02:07:39 PM
Hi Sarapuk,

Anytime you want to talk off this site just message me and we can link off. Your message seems to be lost here and it sounds like you want to talk about it, as I do. There is much to be looked at and studied.

Ok. You appear to be correct. I have dropped the hint more than once over the last couple of years but no one really seems keen to pursue the subject on this Forum. I wish they would because it might explain a lot.


I am also interested and always have been and that's the reason why I dont visit this forum because this subject is not discussed at all.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on March 03, 2021, 02:16:24 PM
I'm receptive to linking Lyudmila's head injuries with CM. But there are equally good explanations for her injuries.

It isnt just about Dubinina's head or body injuries though.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on March 04, 2021, 02:50:29 AM
I'm receptive to linking Lyudmila's head injuries with CM. But there are equally good explanations for her injuries.

It isnt just about Dubinina's head or body injuries though.
Pray tell.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: marieuk on March 04, 2021, 09:22:31 AM
I'm interested too.  I was watching a programme about the strange lights etc in Colares and one of the photos taken there was virtually identical to one at Dyatlov Pass.  I'm sure somebody mentioned about the Dyatlov group having strange injuries/marks on their bodies - is anyone able to describe what they're like? I really can't bring myself to look at the autopsy photos. 
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on March 04, 2021, 04:31:24 PM
Hi Sarapuk,

Anytime you want to talk off this site just message me and we can link off. Your message seems to be lost here and it sounds like you want to talk about it, as I do. There is much to be looked at and studied.

Hello Ridgewatcher. My email is in this Forum. Its ;  derekbilston@hotmail.co.uk and I will be creating an interesting Website soon to do with certain activities in Britain.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on March 04, 2021, 04:33:59 PM
Hi Sarapuk,

Anytime you want to talk off this site just message me and we can link off. Your message seems to be lost here and it sounds like you want to talk about it, as I do. There is much to be looked at and studied.

Ok. You appear to be correct. I have dropped the hint more than once over the last couple of years but no one really seems keen to pursue the subject on this Forum. I wish they would because it might explain a lot.


I am also interested and always have been and that's the reason why I dont visit this forum because this subject is not discussed at all.

Well looks like a few of us want to make progress. Because the Dyatlov Mystery seems to have hit a brick wall regarding the conventional theories.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on March 04, 2021, 04:38:01 PM
I'm interested too.  I was watching a programme about the strange lights etc in Colares and one of the photos taken there was virtually identical to one at Dyatlov Pass.  I'm sure somebody mentioned about the Dyatlov group having strange injuries/marks on their bodies - is anyone able to describe what they're like? I really can't bring myself to look at the autopsy photos.

Well I must admit I dont particularly like having to look at any type of Autopsy photos Human or Animal. But it is unfortunately neccessary in order to make progress. Yes there are strange marks on many of the Dyatlov Groups bodies. And such marks have also been found on both Animal and Human Mutilation Cases. It appears such marks are usually circular.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on March 04, 2021, 04:44:01 PM
I'm receptive to linking Lyudmila's head injuries with CM. But there are equally good explanations for her injuries.

It isnt just about Dubinina's head or body injuries though.
Pray tell.

Strange Marks found on Dyatlov Group bodies. A Circle in the Snow found near the Tent. Radiation levels near the Tent off the scale. Strange Lights in the Sky. All of these things are often associated with Animal and Human Mutilation Cases.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Star man on March 28, 2021, 03:43:04 PM
Have watched some documentaries on the Skin-walker Ranch.  Lots of top scientists investigating strange phenomenon.  UFOs, Castle mutilations, Bigfoot sightings and lots more strange events.  Quite interesting.  I am not suggesting that there is a link with DPI.  Also, am still strongly sceptical about this, but when you hear some of the stories, you have to wonder why anyone would make it up.  Anyway, it occurred to me that most of the events could be explained via one thing -  ultra advanced technology.  One of the strangest stories was that of a wolf, that approached the ranchers, as if a family pet, then it grabbed a calf nearby.  They hit the wolf with an axe handle, shot it several times with a hand gun ( wolf just looked at them puzzled).  Then they shot it with a high power rifle blowing chuncks of flesh and fur off it at which point the wolf retreated into the darkness and vanished.  Its tracks just stopped and it was gone.

One thought that came to mind was that if there were ETs buzzing around, could such a place as Skinwalker be a designated research area for the ETs  An area where they had been given permission to do research and interact to some extent with humans.  In this sense the strange occurrences are tests, experiments to see how humans respond to different things.  The ability to simulate, or ink with a neural network of another creature or animal might be no different than us using a drone, or a robot to investigate a hazardous environment.  It is just a different level of technology.  If you have not looked into before it is quite interesting.

Regards

Star man

Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on March 28, 2021, 06:15:31 PM
Have watched some documentaries on the Skin-walker Ranch.  Lots of top scientists investigating strange phenomenon.  UFOs, Castle mutilations, Bigfoot sightings and lots more strange events.  Quite interesting.  I am not suggesting that there is a link with DPI.  Also, am still strongly sceptical about this, but when you hear some of the stories, you have to wonder why anyone would make it up.  Anyway, it occurred to me that most of the events could be explained via one thing -  ultra advanced technology.  One of the strangest stories was that of a wolf, that approached the ranchers, as if a family pet, then it grabbed a calf nearby.  They hit the wolf with an axe handle, shot it several times with a hand gun ( wolf just looked at them puzzled).  Then they shot it with a high power rifle blowing chuncks of flesh and fur off it at which point the wolf retreated into the darkness and vanished.  Its tracks just stopped and it was gone.

One thought that came to mind was that if there were ETs buzzing around, could such a place as Skinwalker be a designated research area for the ETs  An area where they had been given permission to do research and interact to some extent with humans.  In this sense the strange occurrences are tests, experiments to see how humans respond to different things.  The ability to simulate, or ink with a neural network of another creature or animal might be no different than us using a drone, or a robot to investigate a hazardous environment.  It is just a different level of technology.  If you have not looked into before it is quite interesting.

Regards

Star man

Obviously we dont have any definitive proof that Aliens are actually visiting Earth etc. All we have are many stories that may or may not be true. But many Scientists are now convinced that Alien life exists in Outer Space. If such life forms came to this Planet they may be like nothing we could understand. They may be millions of years more advanced than Humans. Ive made contact with a leading researcher on the subject of UFO's and Animal Mutilations. What he has told me so far is amazing.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: KFinn on March 28, 2021, 06:59:23 PM
Have watched some documentaries on the Skin-walker Ranch.  Lots of top scientists investigating strange phenomenon.  UFOs, Castle mutilations, Bigfoot sightings and lots more strange events.  Quite interesting.  I am not suggesting that there is a link with DPI.  Also, am still strongly sceptical about this, but when you hear some of the stories, you have to wonder why anyone would make it up.  Anyway, it occurred to me that most of the events could be explained via one thing -  ultra advanced technology.  One of the strangest stories was that of a wolf, that approached the ranchers, as if a family pet, then it grabbed a calf nearby.  They hit the wolf with an axe handle, shot it several times with a hand gun ( wolf just looked at them puzzled).  Then they shot it with a high power rifle blowing chuncks of flesh and fur off it at which point the wolf retreated into the darkness and vanished.  Its tracks just stopped and it was gone.

One thought that came to mind was that if there were ETs buzzing around, could such a place as Skinwalker be a designated research area for the ETs  An area where they had been given permission to do research and interact to some extent with humans.  In this sense the strange occurrences are tests, experiments to see how humans respond to different things.  The ability to simulate, or ink with a neural network of another creature or animal might be no different than us using a drone, or a robot to investigate a hazardous environment.  It is just a different level of technology.  If you have not looked into before it is quite interesting.

Regards

Star man

Obviously we dont have any definitive proof that Aliens are actually visiting Earth etc. All we have are many stories that may or may not be true. But many Scientists are now convinced that Alien life exists in Outer Space. If such life forms came to this Planet they may be like nothing we could understand. They may be millions of years more advanced than Humans. Ive made contact with a leading researcher on the subject of UFO's and Animal Mutilations. What he has told me so far is amazing.

I have a very hard time accepting that aren't other life forms out there; its such a wide, vast place and to think that we are the highest form of life in the world is so...self centered, to me.  There just must be more out there!  Or if there isn't now, there must have been at other points in time. 

I haven't made it through all if the threads in this category but do you all have any suggestions on books or documentaries that you recommend?  That's another project on my always growing list; to write up a list if recommended or referred books, articles, YouTube vids and documentaries that support each theory.  Not Dyatlov specific but references that support the arguments, such as David Paulides books on Bigfoot, etc.  I've loved going through all if the links and such here on Teddy's site but I know we often discuss other resources here in the forums. 
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Star man on March 29, 2021, 07:21:58 AM
Have watched some documentaries on the Skin-walker Ranch.  Lots of top scientists investigating strange phenomenon.  UFOs, Castle mutilations, Bigfoot sightings and lots more strange events.  Quite interesting.  I am not suggesting that there is a link with DPI.  Also, am still strongly sceptical about this, but when you hear some of the stories, you have to wonder why anyone would make it up.  Anyway, it occurred to me that most of the events could be explained via one thing -  ultra advanced technology.  One of the strangest stories was that of a wolf, that approached the ranchers, as if a family pet, then it grabbed a calf nearby.  They hit the wolf with an axe handle, shot it several times with a hand gun ( wolf just looked at them puzzled).  Then they shot it with a high power rifle blowing chuncks of flesh and fur off it at which point the wolf retreated into the darkness and vanished.  Its tracks just stopped and it was gone.

One thought that came to mind was that if there were ETs buzzing around, could such a place as Skinwalker be a designated research area for the ETs  An area where they had been given permission to do research and interact to some extent with humans.  In this sense the strange occurrences are tests, experiments to see how humans respond to different things.  The ability to simulate, or ink with a neural network of another creature or animal might be no different than us using a drone, or a robot to investigate a hazardous environment.  It is just a different level of technology.  If you have not looked into before it is quite interesting.

Regards

Star man

Obviously we dont have any definitive proof that Aliens are actually visiting Earth etc. All we have are many stories that may or may not be true. But many Scientists are now convinced that Alien life exists in Outer Space. If such life forms came to this Planet they may be like nothing we could understand. They may be millions of years more advanced than Humans. Ive made contact with a leading researcher on the subject of UFO's and Animal Mutilations. What he has told me so far is amazing.

I have a very hard time accepting that aren't other life forms out there; its such a wide, vast place and to think that we are the highest form of life in the world is so...self centered, to me.  There just must be more out there!  Or if there isn't now, there must have been at other points in time. 

I haven't made it through all if the threads in this category but do you all have any suggestions on books or documentaries that you recommend?  That's another project on my always growing list; to write up a list if recommended or referred books, articles, YouTube vids and documentaries that support each theory.  Not Dyatlov specific but references that support the arguments, such as David Paulides books on Bigfoot, etc.  I've loved going through all if the links and such here on Teddy's site but I know we often discuss other resources here in the forums.

There is a good documentary series with Lou Alizondo - not sure if I spelled his name right, - unidentified ..... something or other sorry not much help with the name but if you can find it it is very good.

Regards

Star man
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: KFinn on March 29, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Have watched some documentaries on the Skin-walker Ranch.  Lots of top scientists investigating strange phenomenon.  UFOs, Castle mutilations, Bigfoot sightings and lots more strange events.  Quite interesting.  I am not suggesting that there is a link with DPI.  Also, am still strongly sceptical about this, but when you hear some of the stories, you have to wonder why anyone would make it up.  Anyway, it occurred to me that most of the events could be explained via one thing -  ultra advanced technology.  One of the strangest stories was that of a wolf, that approached the ranchers, as if a family pet, then it grabbed a calf nearby.  They hit the wolf with an axe handle, shot it several times with a hand gun ( wolf just looked at them puzzled).  Then they shot it with a high power rifle blowing chuncks of flesh and fur off it at which point the wolf retreated into the darkness and vanished.  Its tracks just stopped and it was gone.

One thought that came to mind was that if there were ETs buzzing around, could such a place as Skinwalker be a designated research area for the ETs  An area where they had been given permission to do research and interact to some extent with humans.  In this sense the strange occurrences are tests, experiments to see how humans respond to different things.  The ability to simulate, or ink with a neural network of another creature or animal might be no different than us using a drone, or a robot to investigate a hazardous environment.  It is just a different level of technology.  If you have not looked into before it is quite interesting.

Regards

Star man

Obviously we dont have any definitive proof that Aliens are actually visiting Earth etc. All we have are many stories that may or may not be true. But many Scientists are now convinced that Alien life exists in Outer Space. If such life forms came to this Planet they may be like nothing we could understand. They may be millions of years more advanced than Humans. Ive made contact with a leading researcher on the subject of UFO's and Animal Mutilations. What he has told me so far is amazing.

I have a very hard time accepting that aren't other life forms out there; its such a wide, vast place and to think that we are the highest form of life in the world is so...self centered, to me.  There just must be more out there!  Or if there isn't now, there must have been at other points in time. 

I haven't made it through all if the threads in this category but do you all have any suggestions on books or documentaries that you recommend?  That's another project on my always growing list; to write up a list if recommended or referred books, articles, YouTube vids and documentaries that support each theory.  Not Dyatlov specific but references that support the arguments, such as David Paulides books on Bigfoot, etc.  I've loved going through all if the links and such here on Teddy's site but I know we often discuss other resources here in the forums.

There is a good documentary series with Lou Alizondo - not sure if I spelled his name right, - unidentified ..... something or other sorry not much help with the name but if you can find it it is very good.

Regards

Star man

I just did a quick search.  I will check the show out!  I saw an article and it mentioned Elizondo and sightings on the USS Nimitz.  My other half was stationed on the Nimitz when he was in the US Navy!!!  That's just wildly ironic!!!!!
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Star man on March 29, 2021, 03:07:44 PM
Have watched some documentaries on the Skin-walker Ranch.  Lots of top scientists investigating strange phenomenon.  UFOs, Castle mutilations, Bigfoot sightings and lots more strange events.  Quite interesting.  I am not suggesting that there is a link with DPI.  Also, am still strongly sceptical about this, but when you hear some of the stories, you have to wonder why anyone would make it up.  Anyway, it occurred to me that most of the events could be explained via one thing -  ultra advanced technology.  One of the strangest stories was that of a wolf, that approached the ranchers, as if a family pet, then it grabbed a calf nearby.  They hit the wolf with an axe handle, shot it several times with a hand gun ( wolf just looked at them puzzled).  Then they shot it with a high power rifle blowing chuncks of flesh and fur off it at which point the wolf retreated into the darkness and vanished.  Its tracks just stopped and it was gone.

One thought that came to mind was that if there were ETs buzzing around, could such a place as Skinwalker be a designated research area for the ETs  An area where they had been given permission to do research and interact to some extent with humans.  In this sense the strange occurrences are tests, experiments to see how humans respond to different things.  The ability to simulate, or ink with a neural network of another creature or animal might be no different than us using a drone, or a robot to investigate a hazardous environment.  It is just a different level of technology.  If you have not looked into before it is quite interesting.

Regards

Star man

Obviously we dont have any definitive proof that Aliens are actually visiting Earth etc. All we have are many stories that may or may not be true. But many Scientists are now convinced that Alien life exists in Outer Space. If such life forms came to this Planet they may be like nothing we could understand. They may be millions of years more advanced than Humans. Ive made contact with a leading researcher on the subject of UFO's and Animal Mutilations. What he has told me so far is amazing.

I have a very hard time accepting that aren't other life forms out there; its such a wide, vast place and to think that we are the highest form of life in the world is so...self centered, to me.  There just must be more out there!  Or if there isn't now, there must have been at other points in time. 

I haven't made it through all if the threads in this category but do you all have any suggestions on books or documentaries that you recommend?  That's another project on my always growing list; to write up a list if recommended or referred books, articles, YouTube vids and documentaries that support each theory.  Not Dyatlov specific but references that support the arguments, such as David Paulides books on Bigfoot, etc.  I've loved going through all if the links and such here on Teddy's site but I know we often discuss other resources here in the forums.

There is a good documentary series with Lou Alizondo - not sure if I spelled his name right, - unidentified ..... something or other sorry not much help with the name but if you can find it it is very good.

Regards

Star man

I just did a quick search.  I will check the show out!  I saw an article and it mentioned Elizondo and sightings on the USS Nimitz.  My other half was stationed on the Nimitz when he was in the US Navy!!!  That's just wildly ironic!!!!!

Yes that is the one.  It's the only series I would give any credit to, due to the credibility of the eye witnesses involved and the multiple witnesses who observed the events from different perspectives.  There aren't many explanations for what they witnessed.  Extremely advanced technology.  The question is who or what was operating it.

Regards

Star man
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: KFinn on March 29, 2021, 03:15:27 PM

There is a good documentary series with Lou Alizondo - not sure if I spelled his name right, - unidentified ..... something or other sorry not much help with the name but if you can find it it is very good.

Regards

Star man

I just did a quick search.  I will check the show out!  I saw an article and it mentioned Elizondo and sightings on the USS Nimitz.  My other half was stationed on the Nimitz when he was in the US Navy!!!  That's just wildly ironic!!!!!
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Yes that is the one.  It's the only series I would give any credit to, due to the credibility of the eye witnesses involved and the multiple witnesses who observed the events from different perspectives.  There aren't many explanations for what they witnessed.  Extremely advanced technology.  The question is who or what was operating it.

Regards

Star man
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I will be watching it this week!!  I was able to find it on Prime :D  Thank you!!!! 
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on March 29, 2021, 05:09:58 PM
Have watched some documentaries on the Skin-walker Ranch.  Lots of top scientists investigating strange phenomenon.  UFOs, Castle mutilations, Bigfoot sightings and lots more strange events.  Quite interesting.  I am not suggesting that there is a link with DPI.  Also, am still strongly sceptical about this, but when you hear some of the stories, you have to wonder why anyone would make it up.  Anyway, it occurred to me that most of the events could be explained via one thing -  ultra advanced technology.  One of the strangest stories was that of a wolf, that approached the ranchers, as if a family pet, then it grabbed a calf nearby.  They hit the wolf with an axe handle, shot it several times with a hand gun ( wolf just looked at them puzzled).  Then they shot it with a high power rifle blowing chuncks of flesh and fur off it at which point the wolf retreated into the darkness and vanished.  Its tracks just stopped and it was gone.

One thought that came to mind was that if there were ETs buzzing around, could such a place as Skinwalker be a designated research area for the ETs  An area where they had been given permission to do research and interact to some extent with humans.  In this sense the strange occurrences are tests, experiments to see how humans respond to different things.  The ability to simulate, or ink with a neural network of another creature or animal might be no different than us using a drone, or a robot to investigate a hazardous environment.  It is just a different level of technology.  If you have not looked into before it is quite interesting.

Regards

Star man

Obviously we dont have any definitive proof that Aliens are actually visiting Earth etc. All we have are many stories that may or may not be true. But many Scientists are now convinced that Alien life exists in Outer Space. If such life forms came to this Planet they may be like nothing we could understand. They may be millions of years more advanced than Humans. Ive made contact with a leading researcher on the subject of UFO's and Animal Mutilations. What he has told me so far is amazing.

I have a very hard time accepting that aren't other life forms out there; its such a wide, vast place and to think that we are the highest form of life in the world is so...self centered, to me.  There just must be more out there!  Or if there isn't now, there must have been at other points in time. 

I haven't made it through all if the threads in this category but do you all have any suggestions on books or documentaries that you recommend?  That's another project on my always growing list; to write up a list if recommended or referred books, articles, YouTube vids and documentaries that support each theory.  Not Dyatlov specific but references that support the arguments, such as David Paulides books on Bigfoot, etc.  I've loved going through all if the links and such here on Teddy's site but I know we often discuss other resources here in the forums.

Theres a Ton of stuff out there. By out there I mean on the WWW. There are some very good books around as well and they can be found by using the WWW. David Paulides stuff is very good. And Linda Moulton Howe is also very good especially on Animal Mutilations which also covers Humans. Ive been particularly interested in the Rendlesham Forest Incident in England at a US Air Base during the so called Cold War. Ive got some very good books on that. You can pick up some classic books from the 1950's on UFO's and most of them are very good. So many very good books out there. If you like hunting down ancient reports then some of Englands old books from several hundred years ago have references to strange goings on and phenomenon, including Robert Plots great work ''The Natural History Of Staffordshire'' an original copy of which I saw and photocopied some pages over 30 years ago in the Birmingham Reference Library Archives. Good hunting.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: KFinn on March 29, 2021, 05:21:44 PM
Have watched some documentaries on the Skin-walker Ranch.  Lots of top scientists investigating strange phenomenon.  UFOs, Castle mutilations, Bigfoot sightings and lots more strange events.  Quite interesting.  I am not suggesting that there is a link with DPI.  Also, am still strongly sceptical about this, but when you hear some of the stories, you have to wonder why anyone would make it up.  Anyway, it occurred to me that most of the events could be explained via one thing -  ultra advanced technology.  One of the strangest stories was that of a wolf, that approached the ranchers, as if a family pet, then it grabbed a calf nearby.  They hit the wolf with an axe handle, shot it several times with a hand gun ( wolf just looked at them puzzled).  Then they shot it with a high power rifle blowing chuncks of flesh and fur off it at which point the wolf retreated into the darkness and vanished.  Its tracks just stopped and it was gone.

One thought that came to mind was that if there were ETs buzzing around, could such a place as Skinwalker be a designated research area for the ETs  An area where they had been given permission to do research and interact to some extent with humans.  In this sense the strange occurrences are tests, experiments to see how humans respond to different things.  The ability to simulate, or ink with a neural network of another creature or animal might be no different than us using a drone, or a robot to investigate a hazardous environment.  It is just a different level of technology.  If you have not looked into before it is quite interesting.

Regards

Star man

Obviously we dont have any definitive proof that Aliens are actually visiting Earth etc. All we have are many stories that may or may not be true. But many Scientists are now convinced that Alien life exists in Outer Space. If such life forms came to this Planet they may be like nothing we could understand. They may be millions of years more advanced than Humans. Ive made contact with a leading researcher on the subject of UFO's and Animal Mutilations. What he has told me so far is amazing.

I have a very hard time accepting that aren't other life forms out there; its such a wide, vast place and to think that we are the highest form of life in the world is so...self centered, to me.  There just must be more out there!  Or if there isn't now, there must have been at other points in time. 

I haven't made it through all if the threads in this category but do you all have any suggestions on books or documentaries that you recommend?  That's another project on my always growing list; to write up a list if recommended or referred books, articles, YouTube vids and documentaries that support each theory.  Not Dyatlov specific but references that support the arguments, such as David Paulides books on Bigfoot, etc.  I've loved going through all if the links and such here on Teddy's site but I know we often discuss other resources here in the forums.

Theres a Ton of stuff out there. By out there I mean on the WWW. There are some very good books around as well and they can be found by using the WWW. David Paulides stuff is very good. And Linda Moulton Howe is also very good especially on Animal Mutilations which also covers Humans. Ive been particularly interested in the Rendlesham Forest Incident in England at a US Air Base during the so called Cold War. Ive got some very good books on that. You can pick up some classic books from the 1950's on UFO's and most of them are very good. So many very good books out there. If you like hunting down ancient reports then some of Englands old books from several hundred years ago have references to strange goings on and phenomenon, including Robert Plots great work ''The Natural History Of Staffordshire'' an original copy of which I saw and photocopied some pages over 30 years ago in the Birmingham Reference Library Archives. Good hunting.

I am actually a huge hobbyist on various illuminated manuscripts and historical texts!  Although my expertise in that field is more Italian renaissance like the Visconti book of hours, I do love many of the English styles (and I believe one of the Visconti master artists had also worked in the court of Henry VIII for a bit.)  Way off topic but I am completely jealous of you!  Completely!!!!! 

Thank you!!!  I shall go a-hunting!!!!!
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on March 30, 2021, 01:04:09 AM
This is a good one - https://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/title/the-warminster-mystery/author/shuttlewood-arthur/
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on March 30, 2021, 04:14:43 PM
This is a good one - https://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/title/the-warminster-mystery/author/shuttlewood-arthur/

Thats one I havnt got, but should have it, because its a classic. Ive read references to it over the years. Warminster is an interesting place. Ive passed through it a fair few times and stopped of for a walk around and driven miles into the countryside towards the Military Zone, at night, getting a feel for the Landscape, or should I say Skyshape.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: KFinn on March 30, 2021, 07:39:58 PM
So, I just watched The Hunt for the Skinwalker, about the ranch in Utah.  What.  The.  Heck?!!  How have I never seen all of this??  Granted, I am far, far from Utah but still.  UFO's, cattle mutilation, black shadow beings, magnetized metal in the corral where four bulls were somehow "moved" into a trailer (that isn't possible for a human to be involved; bulls don't listen or follow directions!!!  You hope and pray that they do what you are trying to make them do!!!) 

I'll be honest, my first thought was that the water supply had to be laced with hallucinogenics.  But they said the NIDS research tested for all of that and found nothing.  My second thought was that that is pretty much what living with narcolepsy is like (I have type 1 narcolepsy.  Narcolepsy occurs when the body either doesn't produce or underproduces orexin, a neurotransmitter important in sleep cycles and other various things.  We often have severe nighttime insomnia and when we do sleep, we spend it all in REM. That means when waking or falling asleep, the brain has already jumped into REM and we can be dreaming while actually still awake.  The average narcoleptic is akin to functioning on 3-5 days of sleep deprivation so weird things happen, lol!)  But there is no way an entire area of people can all be narcoleptic, lol! 

Seriously, I need to learn more about this place and why it has such strange occurrences happening for so long and witnessed by so many people!  This is FASCINATING!!!!!!!  Thank you all for the various resources!!!! 
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: marieuk on March 31, 2021, 01:32:03 PM
I'm going to start watching it too.  It's going to be shown on a Freeview channel here and I've heard good things about it.  There's been a lot of programmes on recently about the Rendlesham Forest incident, which is fascinating.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on March 31, 2021, 03:33:04 PM
So, I just watched The Hunt for the Skinwalker, about the ranch in Utah.  What.  The.  Heck?!!  How have I never seen all of this??  Granted, I am far, far from Utah but still.  UFO's, cattle mutilation, black shadow beings, magnetized metal in the corral where four bulls were somehow "moved" into a trailer (that isn't possible for a human to be involved; bulls don't listen or follow directions!!!  You hope and pray that they do what you are trying to make them do!!!) 

I'll be honest, my first thought was that the water supply had to be laced with hallucinogenics.  But they said the NIDS research tested for all of that and found nothing.  My second thought was that that is pretty much what living with narcolepsy is like (I have type 1 narcolepsy.  Narcolepsy occurs when the body either doesn't produce or underproduces orexin, a neurotransmitter important in sleep cycles and other various things.  We often have severe nighttime insomnia and when we do sleep, we spend it all in REM. That means when waking or falling asleep, the brain has already jumped into REM and we can be dreaming while actually still awake.  The average narcoleptic is akin to functioning on 3-5 days of sleep deprivation so weird things happen, lol!)  But there is no way an entire area of people can all be narcoleptic, lol! 

Seriously, I need to learn more about this place and why it has such strange occurrences happening for so long and witnessed by so many people!  This is FASCINATING!!!!!!!  Thank you all for the various resources!!!!

I wish I lived in the USA for a while. I would be all over the remote areas.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: KFinn on March 31, 2021, 06:52:22 PM
So, I just watched The Hunt for the Skinwalker, about the ranch in Utah.  What.  The.  Heck?!!  How have I never seen all of this??  Granted, I am far, far from Utah but still.  UFO's, cattle mutilation, black shadow beings, magnetized metal in the corral where four bulls were somehow "moved" into a trailer (that isn't possible for a human to be involved; bulls don't listen or follow directions!!!  You hope and pray that they do what you are trying to make them do!!!) 

I'll be honest, my first thought was that the water supply had to be laced with hallucinogenics.  But they said the NIDS research tested for all of that and found nothing.  My second thought was that that is pretty much what living with narcolepsy is like (I have type 1 narcolepsy.  Narcolepsy occurs when the body either doesn't produce or underproduces orexin, a neurotransmitter important in sleep cycles and other various things.  We often have severe nighttime insomnia and when we do sleep, we spend it all in REM. That means when waking or falling asleep, the brain has already jumped into REM and we can be dreaming while actually still awake.  The average narcoleptic is akin to functioning on 3-5 days of sleep deprivation so weird things happen, lol!)  But there is no way an entire area of people can all be narcoleptic, lol! 

Seriously, I need to learn more about this place and why it has such strange occurrences happening for so long and witnessed by so many people!  This is FASCINATING!!!!!!!  Thank you all for the various resources!!!!

I wish I lived in the USA for a while. I would be all over the remote areas.

With the country being fairly sizable and so multicultural, we have a lot of interesting takes and experiences.  Here on the east coast around Appalachia, there tend to be all sorts of haunted places and Bigfoot sightings.  Almost every county has at least one ghost hunters group.  When I was in grad school in PA, we got to tour some of the old, defunct prisons as part of studying early prison environments (older prisons usually subscribed to specific theories for justice so for example, Eastern State penitentiary revolved around reforming criminals and was designed to make the prisoner feel as repentant as possible.  It is creepy to visit!!!)  That was my favorite part of grad school!  I LOVE touring abandoned prisons and old asylums and such.  There is a really cool asylum in West Virginia that has a huge spook house around Halloween.  Of course, out west UFO's are more prominent and even more Bigfoot sightings.  Down south around Louisiana, we have a lot of ghost sightings as well, and much that revolves around the religious lore (voodoo). And swamp creature sightings!!  Around Texas are the chupacabra sightings.  There is just so much from haunted houses to native burial sites and UFO areas.  Tons of battle sites from the American Revolutionary War and the Civil War, plus various sites of lattice massacres.  You could almost spend months just going from one county to the next exploring the local stories and folklore!!!

On the other hand, you have haunted castles and ancient battle sites over the pond!  Secret weapons facilities from WWII, all of the supernatural sites in Eastern Europe like Vlad the Impalers castle and such.  I was very lucky to be able to go overseas in 2006 and visit a few cool places but not nearly what I wish I could visit!!  I was able to tour Natzweiller-Struthof.  Talk about haunted...that experience change my life forever.  I was 31 but that was the day I grew up, I think...

I'm off topic into travel and lore.  Sadly, we don't get nearly as many UFO sightings here in the rural east coast but we are pretty wooded so its harder to see the skies, lol.  Out west there are vast amounts of open sky.  Skinwalker ranch sounds like a very unique place even so! 
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on April 01, 2021, 01:02:49 PM
So, I just watched The Hunt for the Skinwalker, about the ranch in Utah.  What.  The.  Heck?!!  How have I never seen all of this??  Granted, I am far, far from Utah but still.  UFO's, cattle mutilation, black shadow beings, magnetized metal in the corral where four bulls were somehow "moved" into a trailer (that isn't possible for a human to be involved; bulls don't listen or follow directions!!!  You hope and pray that they do what you are trying to make them do!!!) 

I'll be honest, my first thought was that the water supply had to be laced with hallucinogenics.  But they said the NIDS research tested for all of that and found nothing.  My second thought was that that is pretty much what living with narcolepsy is like (I have type 1 narcolepsy.  Narcolepsy occurs when the body either doesn't produce or underproduces orexin, a neurotransmitter important in sleep cycles and other various things.  We often have severe nighttime insomnia and when we do sleep, we spend it all in REM. That means when waking or falling asleep, the brain has already jumped into REM and we can be dreaming while actually still awake.  The average narcoleptic is akin to functioning on 3-5 days of sleep deprivation so weird things happen, lol!)  But there is no way an entire area of people can all be narcoleptic, lol! 

Seriously, I need to learn more about this place and why it has such strange occurrences happening for so long and witnessed by so many people!  This is FASCINATING!!!!!!!  Thank you all for the various resources!!!!

I wish I lived in the USA for a while. I would be all over the remote areas.

With the country being fairly sizable and so multicultural, we have a lot of interesting takes and experiences.  Here on the east coast around Appalachia, there tend to be all sorts of haunted places and Bigfoot sightings.  Almost every county has at least one ghost hunters group.  When I was in grad school in PA, we got to tour some of the old, defunct prisons as part of studying early prison environments (older prisons usually subscribed to specific theories for justice so for example, Eastern State penitentiary revolved around reforming criminals and was designed to make the prisoner feel as repentant as possible.  It is creepy to visit!!!)  That was my favorite part of grad school!  I LOVE touring abandoned prisons and old asylums and such.  There is a really cool asylum in West Virginia that has a huge spook house around Halloween.  Of course, out west UFO's are more prominent and even more Bigfoot sightings.  Down south around Louisiana, we have a lot of ghost sightings as well, and much that revolves around the religious lore (voodoo). And swamp creature sightings!!  Around Texas are the chupacabra sightings.  There is just so much from haunted houses to native burial sites and UFO areas.  Tons of battle sites from the American Revolutionary War and the Civil War, plus various sites of lattice massacres.  You could almost spend months just going from one county to the next exploring the local stories and folklore!!!

On the other hand, you have haunted castles and ancient battle sites over the pond!  Secret weapons facilities from WWII, all of the supernatural sites in Eastern Europe like Vlad the Impalers castle and such.  I was very lucky to be able to go overseas in 2006 and visit a few cool places but not nearly what I wish I could visit!!  I was able to tour Natzweiller-Struthof.  Talk about haunted...that experience change my life forever.  I was 31 but that was the day I grew up, I think...

I'm off topic into travel and lore.  Sadly, we don't get nearly as many UFO sightings here in the rural east coast but we are pretty wooded so its harder to see the skies, lol.  Out west there are vast amounts of open sky.  Skinwalker ranch sounds like a very unique place even so!

Fascinating. Such a big World. Seems like there are still lots of places in the USA that are well off the beaten track. Ive been watching plenty of You Tube videos etc on Alaska, I knew it was big but wow its bigger than big. Over here smaller but there are places off the beaten track. The County of Wiltshire in England is famous for UFO experiences. Wales and the Border between England has some mysterious goings on. And recently there was a spate of Animal Mutilations in Northern France that has baffled everyone. I have driven across Northern France a few times. I must admit to not knowing about Natzweiller-Struthof until you mentioned it. Hitler and his Cohorts were into the supernatural and some people even go as far as saying that they had Alien connections.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: KFinn on April 01, 2021, 09:21:54 PM
Fascinating. Such a big World. Seems like there are still lots of places in the USA that are well off the beaten track. Ive been watching plenty of You Tube videos etc on Alaska, I knew it was big but wow its bigger than big. Over here smaller but there are places off the beaten track. The County of Wiltshire in England is famous for UFO experiences. Wales and the Border between England has some mysterious goings on. And recently there was a spate of Animal Mutilations in Northern France that has baffled everyone. I have driven across Northern France a few times. I must admit to not knowing about Natzweiller-Struthof until you mentioned it. Hitler and his Cohorts were into the supernatural and some people even go as far as saying that they had Alien connections.

DB

Oh yes!!!  So this is a little mystery from Natzweiller-Struthof.  There is a big concrete bunker like thing built into the ground under the camp.  You can go in and walk all around it (they excavated around it but there is nothing inside.). No one seems to know what it was for!!  No one, to my knowledge, has any clue what they were trying to build or hide.  It wasn't a root celler.  But it really makes you wonder!!!! 

On the same vein as my Bigfoot post in the yeti thread, there is a comet on the Bayeux Tapestry that is supposed to be Hailley's comet but the way it is depicted, has always made !e wonder if it were something else seen in the sky.  That was after 1066 in Britain...  I wonder how many other illuminations might portray possible UFO's of a sort?

Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on April 02, 2021, 04:41:14 PM
Fascinating. Such a big World. Seems like there are still lots of places in the USA that are well off the beaten track. Ive been watching plenty of You Tube videos etc on Alaska, I knew it was big but wow its bigger than big. Over here smaller but there are places off the beaten track. The County of Wiltshire in England is famous for UFO experiences. Wales and the Border between England has some mysterious goings on. And recently there was a spate of Animal Mutilations in Northern France that has baffled everyone. I have driven across Northern France a few times. I must admit to not knowing about Natzweiller-Struthof until you mentioned it. Hitler and his Cohorts were into the supernatural and some people even go as far as saying that they had Alien connections.

DB

Oh yes!!!  So this is a little mystery from Natzweiller-Struthof.  There is a big concrete bunker like thing built into the ground under the camp.  You can go in and walk all around it (they excavated around it but there is nothing inside.). No one seems to know what it was for!!  No one, to my knowledge, has any clue what they were trying to build or hide.  It wasn't a root celler.  But it really makes you wonder!!!! 

On the same vein as my Bigfoot post in the yeti thread, there is a comet on the Bayeux Tapestry that is supposed to be Hailley's comet but the way it is depicted, has always made !e wonder if it were something else seen in the sky.  That was after 1066 in Britain...  I wonder how many other illuminations might portray possible UFO's of a sort?

Good point about the Bayeux Tapestry. Yes there are lots of ancient drawings / pictures that crop up in various ways around the World that show unusual objects. So is there a Link between UFO / Creature / Mutilations regarding the Dyatlov Mystery. We have the Lights seen in the Sky in that part of Siberia . We have the Legend of the Menk as told by the Mansi people. And we have injuries to 2 of the Dyatlov Group that are similar to injuries in Animal Mutilation Cases.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: KFinn on April 02, 2021, 06:09:34 PM
Fascinating. Such a big World. Seems like there are still lots of places in the USA that are well off the beaten track. Ive been watching plenty of You Tube videos etc on Alaska, I knew it was big but wow its bigger than big. Over here smaller but there are places off the beaten track. The County of Wiltshire in England is famous for UFO experiences. Wales and the Border between England has some mysterious goings on. And recently there was a spate of Animal Mutilations in Northern France that has baffled everyone. I have driven across Northern France a few times. I must admit to not knowing about Natzweiller-Struthof until you mentioned it. Hitler and his Cohorts were into the supernatural and some people even go as far as saying that they had Alien connections.

DB

Oh yes!!!  So this is a little mystery from Natzweiller-Struthof.  There is a big concrete bunker like thing built into the ground under the camp.  You can go in and walk all around it (they excavated around it but there is nothing inside.). No one seems to know what it was for!!  No one, to my knowledge, has any clue what they were trying to build or hide.  It wasn't a root celler.  But it really makes you wonder!!!! 

On the same vein as my Bigfoot post in the yeti thread, there is a comet on the Bayeux Tapestry that is supposed to be Hailley's comet but the way it is depicted, has always made !e wonder if it were something else seen in the sky.  That was after 1066 in Britain...  I wonder how many other illuminations might portray possible UFO's of a sort?

Good point about the Bayeux Tapestry. Yes there are lots of ancient drawings / pictures that crop up in various ways around the World that show unusual objects. So is there a Link between UFO / Creature / Mutilations regarding the Dyatlov Mystery. We have the Lights seen in the Sky in that part of Siberia . We have the Legend of the Menk as told by the Mansi people. And we have injuries to 2 of the Dyatlov Group that are similar to injuries in Animal Mutilation Cases.

I've started reading the Where the Footprints End suggested by Nigel.  I was wrong about the lesser degree of UFO sightings here on the east coast as compared to out west.  The opening experience was in Uniontown, PA from 1973, so half an hour or so from my old stomping grounds around Pittsburgh.  What was seen there was first a light orb from the sky, followed by two bigfoot-esque figures.  (i guess PA has a lengthy history with UFO sightings that I never realized when I was living there!)  There is absolutely no denying the similarities from Skinwalker ranch, to Uniontown to quite possibly Dyatlov Pass.  I must admit, it is absolutely compelling!  There is much more compelling evidence than I allowed myself to believe before.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on April 03, 2021, 03:18:56 PM
Fascinating. Such a big World. Seems like there are still lots of places in the USA that are well off the beaten track. Ive been watching plenty of You Tube videos etc on Alaska, I knew it was big but wow its bigger than big. Over here smaller but there are places off the beaten track. The County of Wiltshire in England is famous for UFO experiences. Wales and the Border between England has some mysterious goings on. And recently there was a spate of Animal Mutilations in Northern France that has baffled everyone. I have driven across Northern France a few times. I must admit to not knowing about Natzweiller-Struthof until you mentioned it. Hitler and his Cohorts were into the supernatural and some people even go as far as saying that they had Alien connections.

DB

Oh yes!!!  So this is a little mystery from Natzweiller-Struthof.  There is a big concrete bunker like thing built into the ground under the camp.  You can go in and walk all around it (they excavated around it but there is nothing inside.). No one seems to know what it was for!!  No one, to my knowledge, has any clue what they were trying to build or hide.  It wasn't a root celler.  But it really makes you wonder!!!! 

On the same vein as my Bigfoot post in the yeti thread, there is a comet on the Bayeux Tapestry that is supposed to be Hailley's comet but the way it is depicted, has always made !e wonder if it were something else seen in the sky.  That was after 1066 in Britain...  I wonder how many other illuminations might portray possible UFO's of a sort?

Good point about the Bayeux Tapestry. Yes there are lots of ancient drawings / pictures that crop up in various ways around the World that show unusual objects. So is there a Link between UFO / Creature / Mutilations regarding the Dyatlov Mystery. We have the Lights seen in the Sky in that part of Siberia . We have the Legend of the Menk as told by the Mansi people. And we have injuries to 2 of the Dyatlov Group that are similar to injuries in Animal Mutilation Cases.

I've started reading the Where the Footprints End suggested by Nigel.  I was wrong about the lesser degree of UFO sightings here on the east coast as compared to out west.  The opening experience was in Uniontown, PA from 1973, so half an hour or so from my old stomping grounds around Pittsburgh.  What was seen there was first a light orb from the sky, followed by two bigfoot-esque figures.  (i guess PA has a lengthy history with UFO sightings that I never realized when I was living there!)  There is absolutely no denying the similarities from Skinwalker ranch, to Uniontown to quite possibly Dyatlov Pass.  I must admit, it is absolutely compelling!  There is much more compelling evidence than I allowed myself to believe before.

Yes its a good idea to read as much as possible about the various mysteries. Time consuming but who knows where it will lead to. Everyone interested in the Dyatlov Mystery should broaden their horizons. The truth is out there somewhere.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: RidgeWatcher on April 06, 2021, 09:41:31 PM
Happening all over the States now and more frequently, Oregon is getting hit hard:

https://www.bluemountaineagle.com/news/rancher-reports-mutilated-cow-outside-of-ukiah/article_17a4f3a2-01e2-11eb-8d61-93c7e8fd6707.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share (https://www.bluemountaineagle.com/news/rancher-reports-mutilated-cow-outside-of-ukiah/article_17a4f3a2-01e2-11eb-8d61-93c7e8fd6707.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share)


https://www.opb.org/news/article/eastern-oregon-western-cattle-deaths-mystery-theories/ (https://www.opb.org/news/article/eastern-oregon-western-cattle-deaths-mystery-theories/)

https://modernfarmer.com/2021/03/lets-talk-about-cattle-mutilations/ (https://modernfarmer.com/2021/03/lets-talk-about-cattle-mutilations/)

https://wp.me/p6V7Xz-1E8r (https://wp.me/p6V7Xz-1E8r)
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on April 07, 2021, 12:40:35 PM
Happening all over the States now and more frequently, Oregon is getting hit hard:

https://www.bluemountaineagle.com/news/rancher-reports-mutilated-cow-outside-of-ukiah/article_17a4f3a2-01e2-11eb-8d61-93c7e8fd6707.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share (https://www.bluemountaineagle.com/news/rancher-reports-mutilated-cow-outside-of-ukiah/article_17a4f3a2-01e2-11eb-8d61-93c7e8fd6707.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share)


https://www.opb.org/news/article/eastern-oregon-western-cattle-deaths-mystery-theories/ (https://www.opb.org/news/article/eastern-oregon-western-cattle-deaths-mystery-theories/)

https://modernfarmer.com/2021/03/lets-talk-about-cattle-mutilations/ (https://modernfarmer.com/2021/03/lets-talk-about-cattle-mutilations/)

https://wp.me/p6V7Xz-1E8r (https://wp.me/p6V7Xz-1E8r)

Good stuff. What amazes me is that more people arent looking at this phenomenon as being potentially due to 'Extraterestial Intervention'. Having spoken to someone who is a leading Researcher into UFO's and Animal Mutilations in Britain, I have been told that certain British Scientists have made studies of some of these Mutilated Animals and state that there is no Technology on Earth that could make such 'Surgical Incisions'. So are we dealing with Forces of Nature of which we are not aware, or Aliens  !  ?
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: KFinn on April 07, 2021, 01:21:20 PM
Happening all over the States now and more frequently, Oregon is getting hit hard:

https://www.bluemountaineagle.com/news/rancher-reports-mutilated-cow-outside-of-ukiah/article_17a4f3a2-01e2-11eb-8d61-93c7e8fd6707.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share (https://www.bluemountaineagle.com/news/rancher-reports-mutilated-cow-outside-of-ukiah/article_17a4f3a2-01e2-11eb-8d61-93c7e8fd6707.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share)


https://www.opb.org/news/article/eastern-oregon-western-cattle-deaths-mystery-theories/ (https://www.opb.org/news/article/eastern-oregon-western-cattle-deaths-mystery-theories/)

https://modernfarmer.com/2021/03/lets-talk-about-cattle-mutilations/ (https://modernfarmer.com/2021/03/lets-talk-about-cattle-mutilations/)

https://wp.me/p6V7Xz-1E8r (https://wp.me/p6V7Xz-1E8r)

Good stuff. What amazes me is that more people arent looking at this phenomenon as being potentially due to 'Extraterestial Intervention'. Having spoken to someone who is a leading Researcher into UFO's and Animal Mutilations in Britain, I have been told that certain British Scientists have made studies of some of these Mutilated Animals and state that there is no Technology on Earth that could make such 'Surgical Incisions'. So are we dealing with Forces of Nature of which we are not aware, or Aliens  !  ?

That came up on one of the mutilation at Skinwalker ranch; they took video at the time they found the calf's body.  One ear was such a precise, clean cut removal and the mutilation happened in a half hour time span!  They apparently sent the carcass for study and determined that there was trace evidence of a metal not of this earth, though they dud not give any information on who/where or how this was determined.  But seeing the carcass, there is no way the ear could have been sliced off in that shirt time frame without at least a medical grade scalpel! 
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on April 07, 2021, 04:36:40 PM
Happening all over the States now and more frequently, Oregon is getting hit hard:

https://www.bluemountaineagle.com/news/rancher-reports-mutilated-cow-outside-of-ukiah/article_17a4f3a2-01e2-11eb-8d61-93c7e8fd6707.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share (https://www.bluemountaineagle.com/news/rancher-reports-mutilated-cow-outside-of-ukiah/article_17a4f3a2-01e2-11eb-8d61-93c7e8fd6707.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share)


https://www.opb.org/news/article/eastern-oregon-western-cattle-deaths-mystery-theories/ (https://www.opb.org/news/article/eastern-oregon-western-cattle-deaths-mystery-theories/)

https://modernfarmer.com/2021/03/lets-talk-about-cattle-mutilations/ (https://modernfarmer.com/2021/03/lets-talk-about-cattle-mutilations/)

https://wp.me/p6V7Xz-1E8r (https://wp.me/p6V7Xz-1E8r)

Good stuff. What amazes me is that more people arent looking at this phenomenon as being potentially due to 'Extraterestial Intervention'. Having spoken to someone who is a leading Researcher into UFO's and Animal Mutilations in Britain, I have been told that certain British Scientists have made studies of some of these Mutilated Animals and state that there is no Technology on Earth that could make such 'Surgical Incisions'. So are we dealing with Forces of Nature of which we are not aware, or Aliens  !  ?

That came up on one of the mutilation at Skinwalker ranch; they took video at the time they found the calf's body.  One ear was such a precise, clean cut removal and the mutilation happened in a half hour time span!  They apparently sent the carcass for study and determined that there was trace evidence of a metal not of this earth, though they dud not give any information on who/where or how this was determined.  But seeing the carcass, there is no way the ear could have been sliced off in that shirt time frame without at least a medical grade scalpel!

I have been told on good authority that many Governments and their respective Departments, around the World, are carrying out Investigations on Animal Mutilations and are basically covering up their findings. In England, DEFRA, which is the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, have a Special Department or Unit within, which Investigates Animal Mutilations. Apparently they tell Farmers and Landowners who find dead Animals under strange circumstances to say nothing to any one. They send someone to the Farmer or Landowner and take the corpse away and no more is heard of it. I have also been told that there is now a Unit within the British Military that does the same thing, maybe the 2 Units are linked.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: KFinn on April 19, 2021, 08:02:59 AM
I'm watching a more recent documentary/investigative program on Skinwalker ranch by the newest owner; another multi-billionare who has the fortune to call in all sorts of scientists, experts and equipment.  It is on Hulu here, was filmed in 2019, I believe, and is called "The Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch."

So, episode two, season one.  They decide to do overnight scans out on the mesa area where sky orbs and weird lights and high levels of radiation are most prevalent.  Their uber powered laser dies completely (many electronics seem to out there!)  They start sweeping infrared and see weird light flashes and a beam that extends from ground to sky (but they can not pinpoint whether the origin is above or below.). And then, as if that wasn't the weird part...  Tom, the ranch supervisor, suddenly gets a headache.  Two years before when he first came to the ranch to work on setting up for the investigation, everyone said "don't ever dig or the activity will ramp up."  He thought they were joking, started digging and wound up hospitalized.  He had a cranial edema that the doctors can not explain and have never seen before.  One expert called in said it looked as though Tom had been hit full on by a ray of radiation to the back of his head.  They showed the scans of his head and it was the oddest thing I've ever seen, personally.  It wasn't cerebral edema, it was swelling between his scalp and skull.  But it was life threatening, had he not gotten medical attention, asap.  So, back to episode two.  Tom's head starts hurting, same spot as before.  They decide to take right off to the hospital and the doctor's see new swelling, same spot.  Tom is okay afterward but...  Radiation, tick.  Weird lights in the sky, tick.  Head injury with little, feasible explanation, tick.  That place is really bizarre but wow! 
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: sarapuk on April 19, 2021, 11:55:50 AM
I'm watching a more recent documentary/investigative program on Skinwalker ranch by the newest owner; another multi-billionare who has the fortune to call in all sorts of scientists, experts and equipment.  It is on Hulu here, was filmed in 2019, I believe, and is called "The Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch."

So, episode two, season one.  They decide to do overnight scans out on the mesa area where sky orbs and weird lights and high levels of radiation are most prevalent.  Their uber powered laser dies completely (many electronics seem to out there!)  They start sweeping infrared and see weird light flashes and a beam that extends from ground to sky (but they can not pinpoint whether the origin is above or below.). And then, as if that wasn't the weird part...  Tom, the ranch supervisor, suddenly gets a headache.  Two years before when he first came to the ranch to work on setting up for the investigation, everyone said "don't ever dig or the activity will ramp up."  He thought they were joking, started digging and wound up hospitalized.  He had a cranial edema that the doctors can not explain and have never seen before.  One expert called in said it looked as though Tom had been hit full on by a ray of radiation to the back of his head.  They showed the scans of his head and it was the oddest thing I've ever seen, personally.  It wasn't cerebral edema, it was swelling between his scalp and skull.  But it was life threatening, had he not gotten medical attention, asap.  So, back to episode two.  Tom's head starts hurting, same spot as before.  They decide to take right off to the hospital and the doctor's see new swelling, same spot.  Tom is okay afterward but...  Radiation, tick.  Weird lights in the sky, tick.  Head injury with little, feasible explanation, tick.  That place is really bizarre but wow!


Maybe thats why the Russian Authorities closed the area around the site of the Dyatlov Incident. Maybe it was an Extraterrestrial Event and the Authorities didnt want people digging into it.
Title: Re: Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Post by: Nigel Evans on April 19, 2021, 12:24:14 PM
I read about the Skinwalker ranch some years back and was fascinated, sounds like the new owner wants to investigate. From memory there were reports of dogs/wolves walking upright "dogmen".