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The devil is in the details

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Manti:
And the coat outside, well I've also read that Igor's coat was found tucked into a hole in the tent. So which one is it?  But even if it was found outside the tent, it might have been left in the tent and subsequently the wind might have blown it out a few meters and then it got snowed on. So unfortunately this might also not tell us anything conclusive.

Investigator:
Any case with a lot of "moving parts," like the DPI, is likely to have things that are puzzling in some way.  In this case, because they were under time pressure to do what was necessary to survive, some decisions might not have been made if they had the opportunity to sit around for an hour debating it.  As to your specific quetions, the flashlight was likely left on top so that if they went back there during the night, they would be able to see crucial details, such as where to start digging out the tent.  We know three tried to get back there (or one or two did, and one or two tried to get them to come back, to go to the "den" instead).  And as to the coat in the hole, the most obvious explanation is that you aren't going to survive the night with no heat and a large hole in your tent under those conditions.  However, it could have been the hole the stove exhaust pipe went through.  It's also necessary to vent a tent under those conditions so that condensation does not occur; if it does, that would then ice up and could cause all kinds of major issues.

Monty:
Perhaps the three hikers found on the slope died on the way down, ie descending?

Manti:

--- Quote from: Monty on July 22, 2021, 11:39:33 AM ---Perhaps the three hikers found on the slope died on the way down, ie descending?

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It is possible, but either way they were outside with some of their clothes left in the tent.

That we know for certain and it is hard to explain, whether they were descending or attempting to return to the tent or even if the tent was in the forest and a tree fell on it.. they could have still put on more clothes before attempting to ascend.

Rustem wearing one valenki only... not even carrying the other one. This hints at a very sudden exit from the tent, not even enough time to grab the other pair or their coats, and no immediate possibility to return. Even if the solution doesn't lie here, at least many scenarios can be ruled out based on this, and that the tent was still half-standing when found... you can basically rule out almost every single theory.

Investigator:

--- Quote from: Monty on July 22, 2021, 11:39:33 AM ---Perhaps the three hikers found on the slope died on the way down, ie descending?

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It depends upon what you are trying to do.  Often, in an investigation, you will make a couple of charts of possible explanations, ones that are likely and ones that are far-fetched.  With the far-fetched ones, you can include interpretations of evidence that seem highly unlikely.  In this case the three were found in positions that seemed like they were heading back up to the tent.  But more than that, there is no reason to think that they couldn't get down to the tree line without freezing, as it wasn't that far.  Some of the others were able to dig out a "den," start a robust fire that lasted at least an hour, and take clothing from the bodies of the "two Yuris," but these three couldn't even get to the tree line?  If that was the case, they would have secured the tent while the others went down to the tree line, but it doesn't seem much was done with the tent.  However, I wouldn't concern myself too much with this, one way or the other, because it doesn't interfere with the most likely explanation of the "incident."

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