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Smashed bones
amashilu:
Specifically regarding the smashed ribs and the "literally flattened" skull of the Ravine4, what, in your favorite theory, actually caused this? In the wayward rocket theory, were these unfortunate souls standing near a rocket that let off some kind of blast that broke bones? In the avalanche or snow slab theory, was it snow? (I'm not sure snow could flatten a skull ... even a lot of snow). As I posted in Teddy's thread, "1079," a huge tree falling on them as they lay in the tent is really the only force that is obviously strong enough to do this kind of damage. But what is your take?
Ziljoe:
For the ravine 4 , from basic observation , it looks like a snow collapse whilst they were lying down. A mass of weight from the ceiling of the hypothetical snow cave/ hole . The skull fractures are on the side of the skull that was lying on the ground . If the head was supported on or above rocks and the mass came from the opposite side it would make sense that the fractures would occur on that side.
The ribs are the cage that protects the lungs and would be the easiest to break across a large area from the force . This is what leaves the other bones unbroken .
If there was little snow fall in the month of February, then the snow above the ravine 4 would most likely have been there be fore the incident. So....somehow that 2-3 meters got on top of them
They reported the snow was harder than other snow which would suggest that the snow had gone through a change to cause the density difference in the snow. They requested several strong men to dig this part of the ravine. ( Ido however question why they were not on a bed of firs when found but there seems that there was migration of the bodies due to the stream.
Questions to ask, where did the snow come from if it was not already there? Would outsiders spend their time shoveling snow on top of them if they had suffered these injuries at another location and were the placed there?
A forensic expert said it was likely bto be a snow collapse. This is in the documentation of semyon's exclamation.
But we have experts and we still can't feed the world.
4 bodies at bottom of stream in a ravine. 3 metered of snow above them and they are found under this snow mass.
amashilu:
Thanks, Ziljoe. I always wonder, since Zolo was one of the Ravine4, why didn't his skills from the war help him to survive? To go through years of a world war unscathed and then to die from a snow slab just seems weird.
amashilu:
I think he was also a ski instructor. He was experienced and skilled.
Ziljoe:
I don't think experience can help against bad luck. Semyon has broken ribs., sometimes bad things happen and the stars align, not in one's favour.
Life is completely random, if we think about you and how you came to exist amashilu. Every rock in space banging together to make the planet earth, every storm and meteor , the evolution of life on earth , every rain drop , every war and fight and how people met each other, fell in love and had children.,you came to be, with no experience and no input.
If it were a snow slab that made them leave the tent , it's not weird, it's a snow slab , they happen in real life. If it was cold and they needed to go to the woods for shelter and fire , it's not weird it's survival. There is nothing that weird about any of it.
It's how it's been presented to us that's weird. It was sold as a mystery , a compelling mystery , , "eyes missing ", "tongue cut out" , "crushed ribs" , "lights in the sky", " sacred dead mountain" , " big foot" , " radiation" , "military involvement", "spies", " undressed" and so on.
No one sells it in the mundane.
It's extremely cold, there was a lot of snow, the wind blows , it's the middle of winter, there can be hurricane winds, they had frostbite and typical hypothermia signs to their bodies, they were miles from help , foot prints were found going down hill(not up hill or sideways but down) . A ceder was used for fire wood, there was a fire made of these branches , from this ceder , two bodies were found on fir branches with slight burns , frostbite was present , with singed clothing on those next to fire and burnt clothing lying within the area.
4 people were found under 3 meters of snow, in water 4 months after their death. Their eyes were missing as were other parts of the skin around their faces where skin decomposes , two had flail chest fractures and one where his head was found in contact with hard ground , under 3 meters of hard snow. ( As you lie down in your bed or on a sofa, look up at the ceiling . That's how much snow is above the ravine 4. Imagine you have a space of 1 meter above you and that tonnage of snow falls on top of you ? )
3 were found frozen in the position they fell , in hypothermia body positions , having suffered frostbite on the slope towards where they had come from.
I think that's what happened here , just a random set of circumstances that played out against the DP9. In the wrong place at the wrong time.
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