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Axelrod:
Salekhard is inside Tyumen region , not "near".
Ziljoe:
--- Quote from: Axelrod on February 29, 2024, 03:01:36 PM ---Salekhard is inside Tyumen region , not "near".
--- End quote ---
Splitting hairs perhaps. The quotes are from the diaries of the Dyatlov hikers.
The Tyumen region stretches 2,100 km from north to south and 1,400 km from east to west. It borders on the Komi Republic, the Krasnoyarsk Territory, the Kurgan, Sverdlovsk, Tomsk and Omsk regions, as well as on the Nenets Autonomous Area and shares a state border with the Republic of Kazakhstan.
It seems that the mansi or Voguls inhabit the north polar Urals . Either the hikers were wrong or the translation is .
Ziljoe:
The entry in the diary below seems to be correct Axelrod, allowing for slight translation or grammar errors.
Mansi are people of the North. Small Khanti-Mansi nation located in Salehard with 8 thousand population. Very interesting and unique people that inhabit the North Polar Urals, close to the Tyumen region
Tyumen region or oblast, yugra, Okrug.
In a current context, the word "Yugra" generally refers to a political constituent of the Russia Federation formally known as Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug–Yugra, located in the lands historically known as Ioughoria. In modern Russian this word is rendered "Югория" (Yugoria) and is used as a poetic synonym of the region.
Autonomous okrugs (Russian: автономный округ, avtonomnyy okrug; more correctly referred to as "autonomous districts" or "autonomous areas") are a type of federal subject of the Russian Federation and simultaneously an administrative division type of some federal subjects. As of 2024, Russia has four autonomous okrugs of its 83 federal subjects.[a] The Chukotka Autonomous Okrug is the only okrug which is not subordinate to an oblast. The Nenets Autonomous Okrug is a part of Arkhangelsk Oblast, the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug are parts of Tyumen Oblast.
Now I can't say I fully understand but I'm trying.
I think Tyumen oblast is here , in dark red. And the rest is the district.
Then the region or district Khanti-Mansi nation is here.
Then the upper part of Tyumen is here with Salekhard .
So , the Urals run down the west side of the full Tyumen district/region / oblast.
So in my poor diagram. The Urals run down the side of Tyumen district. Which I understand to be what is said in the diary .
unique people that inhabit the North Polar Urals, close to the Tyumen region.
GreenRain:
A typewritten copy of a document usually contains name and signature of copier and date of copying.
But there is no information about who and when made typewritten copies of diaries in Case Files.
It is strange for me too.
Axelrod:
Tyumen region consists of 3 regions
the northernmost - Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug (capital Salekhard)
Formed on December 10, 1930.
middle - Khanty-Mansiysk (Khanty-Mansiysk, plus Surgut)
southern - Tyumen
After clarification of the ethnic names of the peoples of the North, the Ostyaks began to be called Khanty, and the Voguls - Mansi, and therefore in 1940 the village was renamed Khanty-Mansiysk.
Nenets, Khanty and Mansi are different nationalities.
Either Dyatlov had a poor understanding of geography, or Sadehard was the capital for everyone in 1959?
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