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General Discussion / Re: Avalanche theory
« Last post by Axelrod on Today at 07:06:40 AM »
My relative Axelrod Moses (Moisey) Abramovich retired in the fall of 1997 and died six months later. Before his death, he thought a lot about this incident and invited directors from local television to his home. In the middle of the film, the following phrase was heard:

First we offer a version completely devoid of mysticism:  version of a participant in the search for Dyatlovites, a person,
 who has been dealing with this topic for more than 30 years, Moisei Abramovich Axelrod,  one of the first in the Urals to receive the title of Master of Sports in Tourism.

Version No. 1. Indeed, the hypothesis very convincingly proves all the damage. This version has been suffered for years, and, according to Moisei Abramovich, it covers everything. He said this: “I need to convey this guess to people, while I’m alive.”

Moses died on March 1, 1998, and another relative of mine became a Jehovah's Witness on May 10, 1998.

I am not yet a “Jehovah's Witness” or an “avalanche witness,” which I have not seen myself.
Their words are not my words!

Also there is is Version #9 in the film.

Version No. 9 – connecting rod bear. It was suggested by the writer Victor Myasnikov, a character in the TAU film “Pulp Fiction 2.”
Several other people adhere to this version. We must pay tribute - this is a very real hypothesis, without any admixture of mysticism.

In total, there are 2 realistic versions in the film, and the rest versions are some kind of fantastic.

In my opinion, the avalanche event also is a matter of imagination there. If you use more imagination for yourself, you can find the participation of a bear. Because the other versions are generally fantastic, as you mean.
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General Discussion / Re: Avalanche theory
« Last post by GlennM on April 25, 2024, 02:13:06 PM »
Teddy, this is most generous of you. It tells me that you are fair minded and considerate. A lesser person would have said, " I wrote the book on this". If opinions matter, you are certainly allowing divergent points of view to be put forward. Thanks.
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General Discussion / Re: Avalanche theory
« Last post by Teddy on April 25, 2024, 02:13:38 AM »
The poll was set up to run -1 day, I don't even know how's that possible.
I extended it to 100 days. Please vote if you haven't.
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General Discussion / Re: Avalanche theory
« Last post by GlennM on April 23, 2024, 01:59:09 PM »
Potential suffocation, not weight of snow is why they left. They could one way or another get out of the tent, but not reenter.
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General Discussion / Re: Avalanche theory
« Last post by Partorg on April 23, 2024, 10:20:17 AM »
Quote from: Ziljoe
The avalanche 6-700 meters away from the tent that was observed on Kholat Syakhl in January 2023 shows it can happen, I believe the evidence is quickly eroded.
Absolutely right. The avalanche on the southern slope of 1079 in itself does not prove anything: there the slope is steeper and landslides happen apparently every winter (and maybe after every heavy snowfall), but this case is indicative in that a not very strong snowstorm almost completely destroyed the traces of the landslide already after half an hour.
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I would like to discuss an article in the KP newspaper for 2012, in which it is written that during the delivery of tourists to the morgue of the Ivdel hospital, Yuri Yudin was also in the Ivdel and watched the corpses through the hospital window. For some reason, this message in the article went unnoticed and was not discussed anywhere.
Quote from the article:
"I was young then, I worked as a nurse," recalls Zoya Nikitichna Savina. - I saw them at the bus stop. Everyone is so funny. They laughed loudly. And then they were brought to the morgue, I looked through the window. The girl was lying there and the guys, I don't remember how long. The girl had socks on her feet. And their friend, the guy who didn't go with them, stood under the windows of the morgue and cried … In the same hospital, Maria Ivanovna Salter worked as a surgical assistant in the morgue..."
It turns out that Yudin knew about the death of tourists, saw their bodies even before the official search. Why Yudin returned from a hike and stayed in the city of Ivdel is a separate conversation.
Perhaps he was waiting for the guys to return, and for this trip to be taken into account by the tourist club. Or maybe he was doing the work of the special services.
https://www.kp.ru/daily/25946.5/2890373/
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General Discussion / Re: Is there evidence for outsiders?
« Last post by Ziljoe on April 23, 2024, 12:23:53 AM »
I have a vague memory of reading something about longer skis , I can't remember where I read it , also one of the group preferred to ski in felt boots I think.
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I read nothing to rule out food poisoning. If they all ate together and ate the same thing, that might be it.
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General Discussion / Re: Survival programs as a resource.
« Last post by Ziljoe on April 22, 2024, 01:55:54 AM »
This video is from a book "to build a fire" by Jack London, written in 1908. It is narrated by Orson Welles and directed by David Cobham in 1969.

Although a story and a low budget film, it has a certain charm and tension that might give us an insight to some of the things experienced by the Dyatlov group. It certainly highlights the potential dangers of the cold and the deterioration of the mind and body against the elements.

It's about a man traveling a path in freezing cold conditions to meet some others at a camp but a series of events occur. The story identifies the problems of creeks and ravines being hidden by snow and this was written in 1908.



https://youtu.be/RBB06RLmCcU?si=zh6YViTe-V1c6t8p
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General Discussion / Re: AVANLANCHE THEORY
« Last post by Ziljoe on April 21, 2024, 02:33:45 PM »
I think it's possible but so are some other theories. For me it's the most plausible explanation but obviously not a certainty.When I way it up against other proposed solutions, some sort of snow slide nudges ahead .

The avalanche 6-700 meters away from the tent that was observed on Kholat Syakhl in January 2023 shows it can happen, I believe the evidence is quickly eroded.

So we know an "avalanche" can happen on 1079 .That's a fact , plain and simple.....is it what happened to the hikers? .... Who knows.
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