Theories Discussion > Lightning strike / Ball lightning
Carbon 14 is a beta emitter and occurs naturally
Nigel Evans:
--- Quote from: Star man on March 14, 2019, 09:45:20 AM ---Carbon 14 could be derived from Historical tests yes, but not from lightning. You need neutrons rather than gamma rays.
Lightning could generate some NO2.
Regards
Star man
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But where do the neutrons come from? kewl1 https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/11/lightning-can-trigger-nuclear-reactions-creating-rare-atomic-isotopes
Star man:
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on March 14, 2019, 12:16:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Star man on March 14, 2019, 09:45:20 AM ---Carbon 14 could be derived from Historical tests yes, but not from lightning. You need neutrons rather than gamma rays.
Lightning could generate some NO2.
Regards
Star man
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But where do the neutrons come from? kewl1 https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/11/lightning-can-trigger-nuclear-reactions-creating-rare-atomic-isotopes
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Never heard of that before. Interesting. Still it's unlikely candidate for Dpi contamination, given what Ryan has said.
Nigel Evans:
--- Quote from: Star man on March 14, 2019, 01:18:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on March 14, 2019, 12:16:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Star man on March 14, 2019, 09:45:20 AM ---Carbon 14 could be derived from Historical tests yes, but not from lightning. You need neutrons rather than gamma rays.
Lightning could generate some NO2.
Regards
Star man
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But where do the neutrons come from? kewl1 https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/11/lightning-can-trigger-nuclear-reactions-creating-rare-atomic-isotopes
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Never heard of that before. Interesting. Still it's unlikely candidate for Dpi contamination, given what Ryan has said.
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Yes but I'm challenging this in post #92? Particularly wrt ionised isotopes.
sarapuk:
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on March 14, 2019, 05:15:59 AM ---Aha!
The story so far...
Carbon 14 would be a good explanation for the detected radiation except for (as pointed out by Ryan), it is a weak emitter of beta below the threshold of the detectors.
But according to - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-14 it can be detected if volumes are high enough. The G-M detectors probably operating at 3% efficiency.
If there was a lot of C14 there it could be an explanation for the tests.
So i hear you thinking, how does a peak in the Urals get much higher than normal levels of C14?
Because if a proportion of atmospheric C14 is ionised (somehow) and the peak has the reverse charge then it will collect.
Back to electro magnetism?
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Yes back to Electro Magnetism and therefore maybe an Electrical phenomenon for the reason that the Geiger Counters went crazy.
sarapuk:
--- Quote from: Star man on March 14, 2019, 01:18:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on March 14, 2019, 12:16:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Star man on March 14, 2019, 09:45:20 AM ---Carbon 14 could be derived from Historical tests yes, but not from lightning. You need neutrons rather than gamma rays.
Lightning could generate some NO2.
Regards
Star man
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But where do the neutrons come from? kewl1 https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/11/lightning-can-trigger-nuclear-reactions-creating-rare-atomic-isotopes
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Never heard of that before. Interesting. Still it's unlikely candidate for Dpi contamination, given what Ryan has said.
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Because its only scientists carrying out observations. And apparently the results of said observations didnt exactly set the scientific World alight so to speak, or even cause small ripples in the scientific community. Why ? Werent the observations finding that the Particles didnt exist for long ? And therefore how can that be of use to any investigation that we are concerned with !
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