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May 20, 2023, 09:56:54 PM
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Today I was reminded of the below case while reading about speculations of what Zolotaryov captured in his final photographs. A theory suggested the two girls had used the camera flash to help them navigate the jungle and terrain at night which explained hundreds of random photographs of the jungle. I don't know if Zolotaryov's camera had a flash, but I was not able to find reports of torches being found within the den four.

"The true scary story and unsolved mystery of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. On April 1st, 2014, Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon disappeared without a trace into the jungle of Panama, remaining missing for only a couple of weeks. It wasn't long before locals began to stumble upon strange clues in the area they vanished, including a camera containing hundreds of disturbing photos that can't be explained. The investigation began. Detectives have combed over every single creepy photo searching for any possible clues or evidence to no avail. Although Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon have been found, no one can explain their scary disappearance to this day. Their missing persons case was utterly shocking and is still unexplained. Will this case ever be solved? What happened to the girls in the jungle, and who was snapping hundreds of photos DAYS after they disappeared?"


May 21, 2023, 05:46:37 PM
Reply #1


Another rabbit hole as deep as the Dyatlov Pass Incident.
The theories are just as wild, and in some sense we have even less evidence (the bodies have never been found, only some bones, and a shoe).

I think the biggest similarity with the DPI is that they could have "just walked back to safety", but for some reason didn't...


May 21, 2023, 07:49:42 PM
Reply #2


The other similarities to the DPI, is the mass of social media adding speculation and muddling the water to get hits.

However ,there are a lot of oddities.  Although its difficult to know the original sources of any of the reported data.

The only logic I can apply to the series of night time photos with the flash , is that maybe ....and I say maybe as the only small logical explanation that I can think of, was that they were trying to light a fire.

Given what can be seen in the photos , the head of hair, possible outlines of fingers, the upward facing framed shots towards the sky, it makes me think that they possibly had the camera on the ground and were potentially using the flash to try and ignite the small bits of paper that they had torn up from the tourist resort map that they had.

The map is seen in an earlier photo at a restaurant with the various symbols , these graphics are also seen in the small bits of paper that show up in the night time photos. Also we see what looks like the bottom of the pringles tin.

I don't think the flash would be hot enough to actually start a fire but they do get hot to the touch and if the girls had thought that it might work , then it gives us an explanation to the strange nature of the photos , the frequency of shots and what is being seen at that moment in time.

I cannot put any other logic to those photos, not from outsiders being involved , nothing. It is truly odd.

It is the possibility of a survival situation . Like wise we have the picture of the tree branch with the two plastic carrier bags attached. To me , this lends itself to being used to keep the phones dry and above their heads as they cross or use a river to try and get to safety.


May 22, 2023, 05:35:24 PM
Reply #3


Very interesting! I never heard about this interpretation, that they were trying to light a fire, but it's indeed plausible.

And the stick with the plastic bag might also be used for "fishing", or maybe to get drinking water in case the rocks were slippery and they didn't want to risk falling into the stream and being carried away by it.

Although personally, unlike with the DPI, I lean towards 3rd party involvement in the Kris Krèmers & Lisanne Froon case. There is just so many suspicious circumstances and the area is not safe at all... I'm even surprised they went on the hike at all. Right after the entrance to the trail you have to walk through a "mini-favela"


October 12, 2023, 03:00:18 PM
Reply #4


To begin with, strange photos of Chris and Lisanna were taken on the night of April 8, 2014. In the future they will be called - Creepy!

The maximum that does not fit into the publication around the world. The fact is that since the beginning of their poisoning, more precisely from April 1 to April 8, not a single photo was taken, no video was recorded, they did not try to call relatives and friends. But they only called almost every day in the corridor, it was from 10:00 to 11:00 and from 13:00 to 14:00 at 911. Then the phones turned off. And so on in a circle for 11 days. During this time, large-scale search activities took place in the jungle, Panamanian rescuers, police, volunteers, search dogs joined them, on April 5, rescuers from the Netherlands joined them, and all in vain!
It seems that they were no longer in the jungle or had not been alive since April 1, 2014. By the way, this date will be indicated on the death certificate.

Version 2

Along the way, they might meet someone or those who might pursue them. Fleeing from the appearance in fear and panic, they got lost in the jungle. And they couldn't find a way out.

This photo was taken on April 8 in total darkness. It seems that there is nothing, no one. And, perhaps, she was not noticed! White spots are raindrops, torrential rain that begins just from April to October in Panama.

Contrast and color manipulation

A criminal version of the mysterious disappearance and the remaining two tourists in Panama. Chris and Lisanna

Contrast and color manipulation

And there seems to be nothing here! But it's worth taking a picture of black-old and it becomes uncomfortable!


If you noticed, a silhouette facing a woman is visible from behind a tree.

There is a village in the area where the indigenous population of Indians lives. And by the way, the backpack found people from this tribe.

In a backpack stuck between a rock and a snag, they found: two bras, phones, a digital camera, $83, a passport and honey. Parking space.

In the future, they were completely attacked and possibly killed.

For what purpose, ask you!?

We don't know exactly where or what they were doing. Perhaps they entered the sacred altar of the Indians in the jungle, because they are pagans. Perhaps during the trip we went to the local Indian cemetery.

There is no photo number 509 in the digital camera. That is, 508 is there, 510 is there, but it is not there! And even specialists in the Netherlands could not restore this photo! What was she hiding and who deleted it!?

I believe it was removed by the Panama Police. Perhaps there was something depicted on it that could shed light on this story! Reveal the locals. But the local government decided not to make it public! The case of an international scandal. And, of course, the financial aspect: almost 20% of Panama's GDP is tourism.

Of course, what kind of tourists will go to Panama if the local government says that they have maniacs in the mountains who kill tourists.

In order not to disrupt the tourist flow of people, it was hidden and encouraged as an accident.

And yet it is necessary to resume this case and ensure that the perpetrators are found!!!


October 12, 2023, 03:37:52 PM
Reply #5


I don't think photography works that way.. anyway, what are you actually tying to say?

October 12, 2023, 11:42:01 PM
Reply #6


I want to say! That Chris and Lisanne didn't take these photos at night! The camera was in third hands. And someone made an alibi for himself, as well as with calls.
My version :Chris and Lisanne were already dead on April 1, and then someone allegedly made calls to the rescue service from their phone! It's all "theater"

October 13, 2023, 04:26:33 AM
Reply #7


It's an extremely odd case.

October 13, 2023, 05:59:54 AM
Reply #8


Yes. The government and police of Panama are hiding the truth!
Because it will hit the economy. It is not profitable for them to let the flow of tourists take its course