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General Discussion / Re: Teddy's new trip
« Last post by Teddy on Today at 02:09:18 AM »We do not.
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General Discussion / Re: Teddy's new trip
« Last post by GlennM on April 02, 2025, 08:38:53 PM »Teddy, thank you for your diligence and your report. It is clear to me that from the historic tragedy you have created a living force of friendships, mental activity and a bit of fame. I find it pleasing to know how you thrive now after so much personal pain.
You have answered many questions from the forum members. Many will use the information to support their point of view. I think some of the wilfder ideas can be put to rest.
Personally, I believe that the harshness of the winter weather supports the idea that if the tent was indeed on 1079 and not the woods, then windblown snow and dark frigid conditions may have been too much for the hikers in their tent. It would have to be extreme because once they left the tent, their chances of living another day must have been as poor as their chances of living another day in their ruined tent.
We still do not have the answer to the big question.
You have answered many questions from the forum members. Many will use the information to support their point of view. I think some of the wilfder ideas can be put to rest.
Personally, I believe that the harshness of the winter weather supports the idea that if the tent was indeed on 1079 and not the woods, then windblown snow and dark frigid conditions may have been too much for the hikers in their tent. It would have to be extreme because once they left the tent, their chances of living another day must have been as poor as their chances of living another day in their ruined tent.
We still do not have the answer to the big question.
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General Discussion / Re: Teddy's new trip
« Last post by Teddy on April 02, 2025, 07:55:40 AM »My report for the last expedition I called "The 66 year anniversary" is long overdue. What happens when I get back is not that the affairs of the "other life" take me away, but because visiting Yekaterinburg and the Pass flairs up a lot of ideas, discussions, the Russians keep an eye on everything and we have to answer questions and discuss further actions. I made so many new friends. I had to send them books, give interviews... and I have been working on the case ever since because I have new questions. I also have the strange feeling that by publishing the photos and videos I have done my due diligence, but I now understand that I have to put them into context. I will do my best to give you a narrative.
I said in my manifesto that sleuthing this case alone is impossible. You need friends in both directions, journalists with access to the archives, and then mountaineers to go on expeditions with. The latter have to be obsessed with the case because no one wants to go to the Urals and spend 7 days scanning with a metal detector and digging up in one place infested with mosquitos the size of drones with a good chance the weather will rain the whole time. But this is the only time when you can actually find something in the ground. While we are digging in the archives metaphorically the activity in the forest is literally unearthing evidence. This is what I am going to do in 3 months, I am going back. I will announce the new expedition on the anniversary of the funerals of the last four, May 12.
This last expedition was hectic. I made a friend from Serov who I went to the pass with on a snowmobile (excruciating), and he also bought me the sub zero suit you can see me on the snowmobile.
Dmitry Kireev made it possible for me to be on the pass and the conference in Yekaterinburg in a very short span, not taking the train but personally chauffeuring me back and forth. We were giving interview left and right about why we do what we do, even someone from abroad, what can be done at this point of time... the usual.
We helped dragging with the snowmobiles the tent replica for the second expedition. Our paths crossed twice. They did all the experiments on location. You can read what happened on the night of Feb 1-2. https://dyatlovpass.com/alekseenkov-winter-2025#1feb
In the meantime I was breaking the record for number of hours spent on a snowmobile on the way to and back from the Dyatlov Pass - 14. Because of the load for the other expedition we were slow on Lozva, and many times almost falling through the ice. For example Valery Anyamov said he won't risk going on the river but going though the forest. This was not the case with the Dyatlov group in 1959 because we are talking snowmobiles. The second expedition also had their backpacks dragged with snowmobiles. They had three tents. Two were modern, one to sleep in and the other, very cool spherical one is the common space where the cooking and meeting. The replica of the Dyatlov tent was once pitched near the cedar in honor of my theory and to test the stove replica, that it is possible for 10 people to sleep with the Dyatlov stove suspended above their heads. Then the replica was taken on the slope where it was found on Feb 26, 1959. There they did all kind of experiments. Here is link again: https://dyatlovpass.com/alekseenkov-winter-2025#1feb
Our party had a different fate. We were 4 snowmobiles: Kireev and me, his daughter and her husband, and two snowmobiles with his friends, firefighters paratroopers. The firefighters kept telling us that we are late. Kireev's daughter is a very tough kid, but as a newly weds, she gave her husband the chance to drive their snowmobile. They tipped over, she hit her head (thank god for the helmet) but while on the ground she scraped the snow and saw blue ice underneath. Why is this important. Karelin keeps saying that he remembers blue ice on the slope in 1959. he attributes this to a thermal wave from military tests and says he has never seen one ant other place. It could be from underground water, but it is still there. Not everywhere though. We arrived to the pass around 4 pm. It was cold and gloomy. All the cameras, GoPro, Sony, all of them, froze after 5 mins. My Olympus-Tough showed 0% battery. When I took it out back in the hut it was 100%. The photos you see here were taken with a phone for 5 mins, and then it froze. I didn't know if I can't move because of the many hours on the snowmobile or because it was really cold. I was shaking like a leaf. We turned back. The other expedition was still in Ilycha's hut. When we stopped I had to pee. When I unzipped the suit and then put it back I realized that if I go inside I won't leave. This means I am abandoning my party and joining the other party but my visa was shorter than I could go back on a train. I didn't even go inside to say goodby because I would start crying. There was no room for both expeditions in lycha's hut, so we headed back to Ushma, where we left the firefighters and continue to Vizhay where we had our luggage. Kireev's daughter, Liz, couldn't walk without support. We spent 14 hours on snowmobiles in -30°C. She went to bed but her father woke her up to drink hot tee. She was fine. In the morning it was apparent she got frostbite on her chicks although she wore a mask under the helmet. Her husband's frostbite showed after he washed his face and the skin on his nose fell off. That night I saw ghosts while wide awake. The house where we spent the night was next to a Vizhay shaman rock. I told my story in this video while I was walking in the cemetery where Zolotaryov and Krivonischneko are buried. I am posting the link at the bottom.
With Kireev we found the morgue in Ivdel, the Zone N-240. https://dyatlovpass.com/66-years-anniversary#morgue
Back in Yekaterinburg I met many people at the conference. Natalya Varsegova flew from Moscow. I hugged living contemporaries of the events - Karelin, Bartolomey, Yakimenko. They are 90 years old. I also met other researchers who attended the conference. We put flowers at the cemetery and UPI. I gave interviews to the press, TV and radio, signed books.
My photos. Note that we had a priest on the pass. We became friends. His wife is the one that made me a Teddy Bear:
https://dyatlovpass.com/66-years-anniversary
The other expedition diary with photos:
https://dyatlovpass.com/alekseenkov-winter-2025
YouTube playlist with videos from January-February 2025
Video where the suitcase with your tools donated by Tena Bellovich is being delivered to Valery Anyamov's house:
Video where I am talking to Valiry Anyamov:
I discussed the life camera on the Dyatlov Pass with Oleg Demyanenko. He took down notes and promised to research what will it take.
You asked me to walk around in socks etc. They did that, there is always someone walking in socks every year on February 2, but this doesn't prove anything. It all depends on the person, and even if someone manages to do it it doesn't mean another person, or this same person in another situation would have the same outcome. Pigoltsina says they were doomed the moment they abandoned the tent. https://dyatlovpass.com/pigoltsina#conclusion
Liz brought an old fashioned Polaroid to the Pass. Back home she gave me a very dark Polaroid photo and said - this is for you, a souvenir. I thanked, but then looked and the photo and started bargaining if she could give me another one because this was dark and could only make out a shape very similar to the ghosts I saw at the Vizhay shaman rock. Liz didn't understand why. I said - I can't see a damn thing on this photo, who is this? She said - this is you.
This is the moment I decided to buy a cross.
I said in my manifesto that sleuthing this case alone is impossible. You need friends in both directions, journalists with access to the archives, and then mountaineers to go on expeditions with. The latter have to be obsessed with the case because no one wants to go to the Urals and spend 7 days scanning with a metal detector and digging up in one place infested with mosquitos the size of drones with a good chance the weather will rain the whole time. But this is the only time when you can actually find something in the ground. While we are digging in the archives metaphorically the activity in the forest is literally unearthing evidence. This is what I am going to do in 3 months, I am going back. I will announce the new expedition on the anniversary of the funerals of the last four, May 12.
This last expedition was hectic. I made a friend from Serov who I went to the pass with on a snowmobile (excruciating), and he also bought me the sub zero suit you can see me on the snowmobile.
Dmitry Kireev made it possible for me to be on the pass and the conference in Yekaterinburg in a very short span, not taking the train but personally chauffeuring me back and forth. We were giving interview left and right about why we do what we do, even someone from abroad, what can be done at this point of time... the usual.
We helped dragging with the snowmobiles the tent replica for the second expedition. Our paths crossed twice. They did all the experiments on location. You can read what happened on the night of Feb 1-2. https://dyatlovpass.com/alekseenkov-winter-2025#1feb
In the meantime I was breaking the record for number of hours spent on a snowmobile on the way to and back from the Dyatlov Pass - 14. Because of the load for the other expedition we were slow on Lozva, and many times almost falling through the ice. For example Valery Anyamov said he won't risk going on the river but going though the forest. This was not the case with the Dyatlov group in 1959 because we are talking snowmobiles. The second expedition also had their backpacks dragged with snowmobiles. They had three tents. Two were modern, one to sleep in and the other, very cool spherical one is the common space where the cooking and meeting. The replica of the Dyatlov tent was once pitched near the cedar in honor of my theory and to test the stove replica, that it is possible for 10 people to sleep with the Dyatlov stove suspended above their heads. Then the replica was taken on the slope where it was found on Feb 26, 1959. There they did all kind of experiments. Here is link again: https://dyatlovpass.com/alekseenkov-winter-2025#1feb
Our party had a different fate. We were 4 snowmobiles: Kireev and me, his daughter and her husband, and two snowmobiles with his friends, firefighters paratroopers. The firefighters kept telling us that we are late. Kireev's daughter is a very tough kid, but as a newly weds, she gave her husband the chance to drive their snowmobile. They tipped over, she hit her head (thank god for the helmet) but while on the ground she scraped the snow and saw blue ice underneath. Why is this important. Karelin keeps saying that he remembers blue ice on the slope in 1959. he attributes this to a thermal wave from military tests and says he has never seen one ant other place. It could be from underground water, but it is still there. Not everywhere though. We arrived to the pass around 4 pm. It was cold and gloomy. All the cameras, GoPro, Sony, all of them, froze after 5 mins. My Olympus-Tough showed 0% battery. When I took it out back in the hut it was 100%. The photos you see here were taken with a phone for 5 mins, and then it froze. I didn't know if I can't move because of the many hours on the snowmobile or because it was really cold. I was shaking like a leaf. We turned back. The other expedition was still in Ilycha's hut. When we stopped I had to pee. When I unzipped the suit and then put it back I realized that if I go inside I won't leave. This means I am abandoning my party and joining the other party but my visa was shorter than I could go back on a train. I didn't even go inside to say goodby because I would start crying. There was no room for both expeditions in lycha's hut, so we headed back to Ushma, where we left the firefighters and continue to Vizhay where we had our luggage. Kireev's daughter, Liz, couldn't walk without support. We spent 14 hours on snowmobiles in -30°C. She went to bed but her father woke her up to drink hot tee. She was fine. In the morning it was apparent she got frostbite on her chicks although she wore a mask under the helmet. Her husband's frostbite showed after he washed his face and the skin on his nose fell off. That night I saw ghosts while wide awake. The house where we spent the night was next to a Vizhay shaman rock. I told my story in this video while I was walking in the cemetery where Zolotaryov and Krivonischneko are buried. I am posting the link at the bottom.
With Kireev we found the morgue in Ivdel, the Zone N-240. https://dyatlovpass.com/66-years-anniversary#morgue
Back in Yekaterinburg I met many people at the conference. Natalya Varsegova flew from Moscow. I hugged living contemporaries of the events - Karelin, Bartolomey, Yakimenko. They are 90 years old. I also met other researchers who attended the conference. We put flowers at the cemetery and UPI. I gave interviews to the press, TV and radio, signed books.
My photos. Note that we had a priest on the pass. We became friends. His wife is the one that made me a Teddy Bear:
https://dyatlovpass.com/66-years-anniversary
The other expedition diary with photos:
https://dyatlovpass.com/alekseenkov-winter-2025
YouTube playlist with videos from January-February 2025
Video where the suitcase with your tools donated by Tena Bellovich is being delivered to Valery Anyamov's house:
Video where I am talking to Valiry Anyamov:
I discussed the life camera on the Dyatlov Pass with Oleg Demyanenko. He took down notes and promised to research what will it take.
You asked me to walk around in socks etc. They did that, there is always someone walking in socks every year on February 2, but this doesn't prove anything. It all depends on the person, and even if someone manages to do it it doesn't mean another person, or this same person in another situation would have the same outcome. Pigoltsina says they were doomed the moment they abandoned the tent. https://dyatlovpass.com/pigoltsina#conclusion
Liz brought an old fashioned Polaroid to the Pass. Back home she gave me a very dark Polaroid photo and said - this is for you, a souvenir. I thanked, but then looked and the photo and started bargaining if she could give me another one because this was dark and could only make out a shape very similar to the ghosts I saw at the Vizhay shaman rock. Liz didn't understand why. I said - I can't see a damn thing on this photo, who is this? She said - this is you.
This is the moment I decided to buy a cross.
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General Discussion / Re: About radioactivity.
« Last post by GlennM on March 31, 2025, 06:27:28 AM »Radioactive particles did not preclude the hikers from going to Ortoten.Radiation did not result in the suspension of logging or mining. Radiation did not displace the Mansi at Vizhay. Radiation did not cause the demise of the hikers, nor their equipment. It can not be proven whether any particle decay came from a lantern mantle, the work site at home, a nuclear accident, or anything else. This whole divergence does not address the central core of the mystery.
One school of thought places the group's last camp on 1079, the other puts them at or near the cedar. I opt for the 1079 location. Weather driven snow movement caused them the leave their tent, and later filled it. Weather driven conditions prevented them from keeping warm in the open air at the cedar. Weather drove them to the ravine where a snow collapse further injured the group. It was a matter of attrition ultimately caused by a misunderstanding of how bad things could get if the weather turned bad. It was a matter of over estimating one's ability to survive in an indifferent natural world.
The big question is why they left the tent. I believe it was weather driven snow that is the cause.
One school of thought places the group's last camp on 1079, the other puts them at or near the cedar. I opt for the 1079 location. Weather driven snow movement caused them the leave their tent, and later filled it. Weather driven conditions prevented them from keeping warm in the open air at the cedar. Weather drove them to the ravine where a snow collapse further injured the group. It was a matter of attrition ultimately caused by a misunderstanding of how bad things could get if the weather turned bad. It was a matter of over estimating one's ability to survive in an indifferent natural world.
The big question is why they left the tent. I believe it was weather driven snow that is the cause.
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General Discussion / Re: About radioactivity.
« Last post by Arjan on March 31, 2025, 03:50:15 AM »Kyshtym accident in 1957
One way or another, the nuclear and radiation accident in Kyshtym in 1957 had an influence on the research of the Dyatlov accident.
The severity of the Kyshtym accident can be compared with other nuclear accident in Chernobyl and Fukushima via the next hyperlink:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_and_incidents
The influence of the Kyshtym accident on the Dyatlov accident is obvious when taking into account that Yuri Kri had helped rescuing and cleaning the area after the Kyshtym explosion.
Contamination from this explosion may well have been present in his clothings and his clothes may well have contaminated to some limited extend the clothes of other group members.
This may explain why clothings from group members had been tested on radio-activity.
The testresult don't show worrying results, of course as far as these results are genuine....
Mining plutonium
Not so very far from Ivdel mining of plutonium took place.
Plutonium from a specific mine has a specific -unique - radiation pattern.
Mining of plutonium had been an absolute state secret at that time, and very probably still now.
Samples of contamination by plutonium will reveal the source and the mine of the plutonium that had caused the contamination in question: the outcome of this kind of test will very probably state secret.
Spy activity by U2 airplanes
During the end of the 50s of last century, U2 airplanes did spy activity above the area around Ivdel, until one U2 airplane had been shot down by USSR not very far from Ivdel and Kyshtym.
One way or another, the nuclear and radiation accident in Kyshtym in 1957 had an influence on the research of the Dyatlov accident.
The severity of the Kyshtym accident can be compared with other nuclear accident in Chernobyl and Fukushima via the next hyperlink:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_and_incidents
The influence of the Kyshtym accident on the Dyatlov accident is obvious when taking into account that Yuri Kri had helped rescuing and cleaning the area after the Kyshtym explosion.
Contamination from this explosion may well have been present in his clothings and his clothes may well have contaminated to some limited extend the clothes of other group members.
This may explain why clothings from group members had been tested on radio-activity.
The testresult don't show worrying results, of course as far as these results are genuine....
Mining plutonium
Not so very far from Ivdel mining of plutonium took place.
Plutonium from a specific mine has a specific -unique - radiation pattern.
Mining of plutonium had been an absolute state secret at that time, and very probably still now.
Samples of contamination by plutonium will reveal the source and the mine of the plutonium that had caused the contamination in question: the outcome of this kind of test will very probably state secret.
Spy activity by U2 airplanes
During the end of the 50s of last century, U2 airplanes did spy activity above the area around Ivdel, until one U2 airplane had been shot down by USSR not very far from Ivdel and Kyshtym.
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General Discussion / Re: About radioactivity.
« Last post by Ziljoe on March 30, 2025, 12:51:32 PM »@mja Mahé
I think Axelrod just posted pictures of a random tree.
I don't know how much you have read but the orgional statements say that the branches were broken with reference to the remains of the fire , for example, the burnt branches belonged to the ceder. Also, they were lying on some of the foliage from those branches as an insulation from the snow.
Under the fresh snow from the night or day of the fire, hard melted snow was found around the fire. Basically, snow had melted and when the searchers came and removed the snow that had fallen or blown in over 3 weeks a hard layer was found underneath the fresh snow, this is how I understand it.
The mention of skin being found on the tree is only said many years after. The autopsy doesn't mention lots of skin missing from any of the bodies that would be seen . Given the lack of any real forensic investigation, I doubt that anyone looked that closely.
We have a fire, broken branches and insulation from the snow . It leans towards a rational effort to make a fire and keep contact from away the snow . Survival in my opinion.
I think Axelrod just posted pictures of a random tree.
I don't know how much you have read but the orgional statements say that the branches were broken with reference to the remains of the fire , for example, the burnt branches belonged to the ceder. Also, they were lying on some of the foliage from those branches as an insulation from the snow.
Under the fresh snow from the night or day of the fire, hard melted snow was found around the fire. Basically, snow had melted and when the searchers came and removed the snow that had fallen or blown in over 3 weeks a hard layer was found underneath the fresh snow, this is how I understand it.
The mention of skin being found on the tree is only said many years after. The autopsy doesn't mention lots of skin missing from any of the bodies that would be seen . Given the lack of any real forensic investigation, I doubt that anyone looked that closely.
We have a fire, broken branches and insulation from the snow . It leans towards a rational effort to make a fire and keep contact from away the snow . Survival in my opinion.
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General Discussion / Re: About radioactivity.
« Last post by mja Mahé on March 30, 2025, 03:11:05 AM »What's this cedar on your photos? The original on the original place with now roads???
I don't see anything strange in the situation with broken branches.
This happens very often, also with the outer trees.
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General Discussion / Re: About radioactivity.
« Last post by GlennM on March 29, 2025, 01:35:03 PM »Radiation, UFO aliens, mystery trees, here is an answer courtesy of a forum member's contribution.
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Read the book online "Transforming Delusion into Clarity. A Guide to the Fundamental Practices of Tibetan Buddhism" - Rinpoche Yongey Mingyu
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General Discussion / Re: About radioactivity.
« Last post by Ziljoe on March 29, 2025, 12:45:49 PM »Just one little question.
A bout the cedar and those broken branches, it seem that I've read about that this tree had also with radioactivity? Truth or false?
Hi mja Mahé,
I don't recall anything mentioned about radioactivity and the ceder. From the orgional case files, the only mention of the radioactivity was from the readings from the Geiger counter at the end of the case.
Someone allegedly took a dosimeter to the slope but that's a different measuring device .
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General Discussion / Re: About radioactivity.
« Last post by Axelrod on March 29, 2025, 11:18:10 AM »I don't see anything strange in the situation with broken branches.
This happens very often, also with the outer trees.
This happens very often, also with the outer trees.