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Title: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Teddy on March 20, 2019, 10:07:10 AM
SPACED OUT RADIO
March 22, 2019
Midnight ET / 9 PM PT
Guest Teodora Hadjiyska
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Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Teddy on March 23, 2019, 03:17:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVM7Z1w_sRk
Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on March 23, 2019, 06:58:32 PM
Another good show Teddy.   thumb1

As far as the air dropped mines/bombs....  I was a Combat Engineer in the Marines and have first hand experience detecting/clearing mines and I'm fairly knowledgeable regarding the two types of munitions that would be in question.  If you have any questions, don't hesitate asking.   okey1
Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Teddy on March 24, 2019, 07:27:29 AM
There are a few things I need to rectify, thanks to my Russian friends who watch so I don't stray from the right path:

Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Nigel Evans on March 24, 2019, 10:51:03 AM

"Dubinina's naked leg was wrapped in Krivonischenko's woolen pants."
Her leg wasn't naked under the trousers? Here's the autopsy report :-
On the section table there is a corpse of woman dressed as follows: head covered by a knitted helmet. A worn greyish-brown wool sweater with beige wool sweater underneath, checked cowboy shirt with buttoned sleeves. Yellow t-shirt with short sleeves, white cotton bra buttoned with three buttons. The corpse is wearing torn dark cotton trousers with an elastic waistband. The trousers are very torn and burned in places. Left leg – part of the leg and foot are covered with burned grey wool cloth from a jacket with its sleeve. On the left leg there is a torn grey woollen sock. On both legs there are torn blue cotton socks with grey wool machine-knitted socks under them. Black cotton tights, torn in the crotch area, with an elastic waistband. On the legs of the corpse there are light brown cotton stockings. The stocking from the left leg is removed, the right stocking is held with an elastic band. Grey ladies belt with elastic supports. Satin briefs. The belt is buttoned with black buttons.

So she had a cap on her head, four layers on her upper body and three layers on her legs - torn trousers, tights, stocking on right leg, sleeve of jacket on left leg, two pairs of socks plus jacket on left foot.
Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Teddy on March 24, 2019, 11:17:46 AM
This is not the main problem with this statement "Dubinina's naked leg was wrapped in Krivonischenko's woolen pants."
Compared to what you would be wearing if you go there, her leg seems naked. These are not Krivonischenko's pants.
Galina is going to start a whole new topic about the clothes and their exchange during the fatal night.
And she gave me 16 pages of mistakes in Ivanov's Resolution to close the case which I will translate next week.
Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Nigel Evans on March 24, 2019, 11:51:15 AM
This is not the main problem with this statement "Dubinina's naked leg was wrapped in Krivonischenko's woolen pants."
Compared to what you would be wearing if you go there, her leg seems naked.
But no signs of frostbite, none of the ravine four have any signs of it. Nicolai had gloves but left them in his pocket. Because they weren't that cold in the den (that's what it's for). Lyudmila wrapped her left foot in the arm of a jacket for reasons i'll explain later in the week.


These are not Krivonischenko's pants.Galina is going to start a whole new topic about the clothes and their exchange during the fatal night.
And she gave me 16 pages of mistakes in Ivanov's Resolution to close the case which I will translate next week.Sounds interesting, what is her source that contradicts the official record?

Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Teddy on March 24, 2019, 12:36:04 PM
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These are not Krivonischenko's pants. Galina is going to start a whole new topic about the clothes and their exchange during the fatal night.
And she gave me 16 pages of mistakes in Ivanov's Resolution to close the case which I will translate next week. Sounds interesting, what is her source that contradicts the official record?

Her sources are other official records, all in the case files.


Dubinina’s bare leg is wrapped in Krivonishchenko’s woolen trousers.

Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on March 24, 2019, 01:05:43 PM
Blouse only for women.....   

Guess the military has been doing it wrong since....  forever?   shock1
Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Teddy on March 24, 2019, 01:06:50 PM
Blouse only for women.....   

Guess the military has been doing it wrong since....  forever?   shock1

Well you translate "кофта" better.
Type "кофта" in Google images and see what comes up. Mostly women's. I don't know how to translate it.
Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on March 24, 2019, 08:02:00 PM
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A blouse (/blaʊz, blaʊs, bluːz/)[1] is a loose-fitting upper garment that was formerly worn by workmen, peasants, artists, women, and children.[2] It is typically gathered at the waist or hips (bytight hem, pleats, pearter or belt) so that it hangs loosely ("blouses"[3]) over the wearer's body.[2] Today, the word most commonly refers to a girl's or woman's dress shirt[4] It can also refer to a man's shirt if it is a loose-fitting style (e.g. poet shirts and Cossack shirts),[5] though it rarely is. Traditionally, the term has been used to refer to a shirt which blouses out or has an unmistakably feminine appearance.

The term is also used for some men's military uniform jackets.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blouse
Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Teddy on March 24, 2019, 08:31:38 PM
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A blouse (/blaʊz, blaʊs, bluːz/)[1] is a loose-fitting upper garment that was formerly worn by workmen, peasants, artists, women, and children.[2] It is typically gathered at the waist or hips (bytight hem, pleats, pearter or belt) so that it hangs loosely ("blouses"[3]) over the wearer's body.[2] Today, the word most commonly refers to a girl's or woman's dress shirt[4] It can also refer to a man's shirt if it is a loose-fitting style (e.g. poet shirts and Cossack shirts),[5] though it rarely is. Traditionally, the term has been used to refer to a shirt which blouses out or has an unmistakably feminine appearance.

The term is also used for some men's military uniform jackets.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blouse
I don't see in your post a better translation of "кофта".
Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on March 24, 2019, 08:34:58 PM
I didnt give one because the correct translation is..... blouse.   I provided the wiki on 'blouse'.    okey1
Title: Re: Spaced Out Radio Live
Post by: sarapuk on March 25, 2019, 03:12:24 PM
This is not the main problem with this statement "Dubinina's naked leg was wrapped in Krivonischenko's woolen pants."
Compared to what you would be wearing if you go there, her leg seems naked.
But no signs of frostbite, none of the ravine four have any signs of it. Nicolai had gloves but left them in his pocket. Because they weren't that cold in the den (that's what it's for). Lyudmila wrapped her left foot in the arm of a jacket for reasons i'll explain later in the week.


These are not Krivonischenko's pants.Galina is going to start a whole new topic about the clothes and their exchange during the fatal night.
And she gave me 16 pages of mistakes in Ivanov's Resolution to close the case which I will translate next week.Sounds interesting, what is her source that contradicts the official record?

Useful observations but we still need to be careful of our interpretations of them. This is after all like a jigsaw puzzle. Having no gloves on doesnt mean that it was warm in any Den. And the Den is still a reference point, we still can not say for certain that it was a Den.