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Inconsistencies in photos of finding the tent

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Arjan:
@GlennM

Elevated footprint in snow
Elevated footprints in snow are caused by tiny/partly melting/stabilising of snow under the weight/mass of the person making the footprint.
After partly 'refrosting' the footprint is stabilised and set partly in ice.
The wind will blow the 'loose' snow later away from the 'stabilised' footprint and this footprint remains elevated on the surface.

Challenge of only nine (or eight?) pair of elevated footprints found
One of the challenges for finding sound solutions for this 'cold case' is finding an explanation for only nine (or eight?) pair of elevated footprints found by the first search party.

These nine pair of footprints hint on absence of outsiders that may/might have interfered with the activities of the Dyatlov group around the tent, before the group members had descended to the cedar/ravine.
These outsiders would have left traces by their footprint.

In the timeline that I have drafted (after many, many trials and errors like trying to solve a jigsaw puzzle), the explanation for non interference of these footprint is:
- Lyudmila, Semyon and Thibo have walked side by side to the ravine area around 15:00 pm on Feb 1st
- On Feb 1st around sunset, Alexander, Igor, Yuri Dor., Yuri Kri walked two by two (side by side) on both sides of the footprints made by Lyudmila/Semyon/Thibo in order to check if one of the three might have deviated to another direction.
- On Feb 2nd around 9:00 am, Zinaida and Rustem had walked each on both side of the track made by the seven in order to check any deviations made by the seven.

If this assumption is correct, then the result is: nine pair of footprints next to each other, and no footprints from outsiders visible.

Remark
Eight group members were (former) students of an University of Technology who had been trained several years to handle difficult situations only in a methodically logic manner.
As former student of a similar University of Technology, it is second nature to avoid trampling through source material.
Arguable these eight group members had the same attitude to the footprints made before.

In mountaineering there are exceptions like, placing one's foot in the footprint of others while ascending a steep hill, in order to have a better step to avoid sliding downhill.

Ziljoe:

--- Quote from: Axelrod on February 06, 2025, 01:35:52 AM ---
--- Quote from: Osi on February 03, 2025, 05:27:10 AM ---Normally, seekers had to pose on this blue line.

--- End quote ---
I don't understand why you decide for the seekers where they should pose? They posed wherever they wanted.
In general, the small number of photos with the tent tells us that they dodn't wanted to fix this moment.

--- End quote ---

I may be wrong but I think Osi is saying that the blue line is where the snow level should be roughly according to the last two photos of the hikers building the trench/ platform for the tent.

He is asking why the searchers are basically at the floor level of the tent as opposed to 90 cm higher . Where did the trench wall go ,that is seen in the last two photos?. ( I think this is what Osi is asking.

Arjan:
Of course I may have misinterpreted these two photos as available from the first search party.





From both photos above, I conclude that the person in front of the tent has always been on ground - snow - level: no digging had been needed for him to be squatted as seen on the photo in question.

There are two explanations for any inconsistency with 'loose photos 11 and 12':
- the wind had blown the snow around the tent away or
- both loose photos 11 and 12 are not authentically reflecting the situation while setting up the tent.

Personally I regard the 'loose photos 11 and 12' as not-authentic: it is likely that both photos are produced in the dark room (as propaganda for honouring group members, - especially Yuri Kri. - as the journalist collective Aleksej Rakitin suggests).

Axelrod:
I think I understood what the confusion was about.
The things were taken out of the tent, and the empty tent was moved 10-15 meters to the right (in the next photo),

Someone thinks that the tent is in one constant place in each photo.
Perhaps I understood the question incorrectly.

Osi:
We have reason to assert that in the days after the tent was abandoned there was no wind strong enough to blow away the wall of the trench in which the tent was erected. Toilet slippers were next to the tent. Like a lantern in a tent. I remember reading that searchers reported other light objects near the tent. I also know that those who reject the plate theory claim that the snow there is not soft enough to blow away, but rather hard-shelled snow. Tourists; If they had chewed through the dry snow crust, they would have appeared as shallow, crystallized tracks, and it would not have been possible to determine whether they were stepped on with shoes or bare feet. Raised footprints can form in freshly fallen snow or when you're chewing through avalanche layer on your path. Because fresh snow or avalanche snow is wet and can be blown away by the wind.
Maybe I wrote the title wrong. It would be more accurate to "compare the last two pictures of the tent setup with the tent reconnaissance pictures".

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