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GlennM:
...or spin doctors take a naturally caused tragedy and read into it their political biases, irregardless of the truth. The huge missing piece in conspiracy arguements is the payoff. By this, I mean that that the powerful make it very clear to the powerless that behavior has its comsequences. There was none of that in the DPI. These hikers were not branded as enemies of the state,The Evening Ortoten demonstrated humorous loyalty to the State.  No, it was their administrative supervisors after the fact in the UPI who got the axe. Those people had nothing to do with sending people to their doom. The hikers were buried with honor and in a very public way. There were no street protests, or social disruption for martyrs.

Bad things happen to good people, that is all. Nothing more.

Ziljoe:

--- Quote from: GlennM on February 15, 2025, 08:45:56 AM ---...or spin doctors take a naturally caused tragedy and read into it their political biases, irregardless of the truth. The huge missing piece in conspiracy arguements is the payoff. By this, I mean that that the powerful make it very clear to the powerless that behavior has its comsequences. There was none of that in the DPI. These hikers were not branded as enemies of the state,The Evening Ortoten demonstrated humorous loyalty to the State.  No, it was their administrative supervisors after the fact in the UPI who got the axe. Those people had nothing to do with sending people to their doom. The hikers were buried with honor and in a very public way. There were no street protests, or social disruption for martyrs.

Bad things happen to good people, that is all. Nothing more.

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A valid point and observation. If anyone was made an example of it was those that ran the the sports tourism. A number of them were reprimanded and criticism of the organisation of the hike. This included the lack of radio communication, knowing the exact route and and a lack luster attitude to acting swiftly to early concerns about the delay of the hikers return.. The message was to those in charge of such hikes and recommendations put in place.

It is difficult to tell when the case became the mystery it is now . We know tabloids like a good story to sell and the modern media are little different. The amount of YouTube and Facebook retelling of this case is numerous and they keep many of the myths alive.

WAB:
I haven't looked here in a while, and it's still the same.
As usual, Axelrod is in his repertoire: he knows all the fakes. The main thing is to broadcast them with confidence


--- Quote from: Axelrod on February 15, 2025, 03:45:05 AM ---If I were to develop this idea further, I noticed that she had a very interesting handwriting.
This is when she wrote a letter to Yudin.



I can assume that it was she who wrote the combat leaflet "Evening Otorten". And not Zolotarev at all.
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1. It's not her handwriting. Yudin showed me her letters, there is a completely different handwriting.

Here, for example: https://disk.yandex.ru/i/h6_u_YdEnjiJEA .

Compare and everything will be clear at once ...

2. that Salter wrote the leaflet “Evening Otorten” no “woodpecker” could not come up with such a thing. It requires a special talent. It's a masterpiece of fake writing.....

There is a lot more to say, but after this, all desire disappears....

Axelrod:
Seriously speaking, the main interesting point that I noticed in the interview is that Victor Solter indicates the location of the settlement of Vtoroy Severny in a completely different place (between Ivdel and Vizhay). I drew attention to this on the diagram that Teodora made.

The first explanation is that this is a mistake. The second explanation is that it is true.
Indeed, if the settlement of Severny-2 ceased to function in 1953,
then nothing would have prevented them from making a similar settlement in another place.
Then there is complete confusion about what these settlements were doing.

Axelrod:
Maybe it is also mistake. Map Descrimes it as Severny (Northern-1)

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