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My theory and it is pretty simple.
John Proxy:
Hello world! New here but have been following this off and on for about 3 years. Recently here in America there was an exploration documentary on TV that was done in 2019 retracing the tracks and going to Dyatlov pass. It re-ignited the curiosity in me to look deeper into this as I have a lot of free time on my hands now. As a little background, I have done a lot of digital forensic work on retrieving data and building a timeline of deceased individuals in cases of suicide vs murder here in the states and have a pretty good track record.
Here is my theory with the data I have observed so far. It is subject to change based on conversation and other pieces of data that might disconnect my theory from the truth that I have not read.
I think we can all agree the tent is the epic center of whatever triggered the events that followed. If we look at the last photos taken of them preparing a place to pitch the tent, we can see that the weather conditions have deteriorated even more than in the previous pictures taken in the morning. What else does the picture tell us?
https://dyatlovpass.com/resources/340/gallery/Unknown-origin-Dyatlov-photos-11.jpg
There are only 4 people, which includes the person taking the picture working on the site. Where are the other 5 people? I think they were down in the ravine, making their snow cave as a backup plan if anything went wrong with their cold camp and if they were preparing a backup plan a fire would be part of it. I believe the wood that was sawed off the tree was in fact done so but not in the middle of the night during a snow and violent windstorm but earlier in the afternoon. That is why there are no saws found there. They took them back to the camp after they completed their task. Note also that the ravine is near a precious resource. Water. The tree line near the cache site they made does not appear to have water and appears to be harder trek than where they went into the ravine / tree line. It is also closer to the planned route as well.
I think we are concentrating too much on the fact that “someone” cut the tent. I know what the forensics say in 1959 but there are no artifacts to support this conclusion I have found. From the data I read that the tent was two tents stitched together. The tent was in disrepair, and they even wrote about having to keep it patched up. I believe a very powerful katabatic windstorm (60-80MPH winds or more) came up on them evening, middle of the night, who knows but at some point, hurricane windstorm tore their dilapidated tent to the point they had to exit. They had their backup plan, but they didn’t expect the storm and conditions they currently found themselves in. It was far worse than they could imagine.
The hikers march single file down the tree line to fall back on their backup plan. They walked like they knew where they were going in my opinion. They get to the tree line and build a fire, and they go through the wood they had gathered rather quickly but it is simply not enough heat because of the extreme cold and wind. I believe the rest of the group retreated to the snow cave and came out to check on their friends Doroshenko and Krivonischenko who were trying to keep the fire going and found them dead as they had been exposed to the elements more than the rest of the group. They took their clothes. These were the first people to die, I think.
While getting back into the snow cave it collapses, trapping 4 of the remaining 7 hikers. Dyatlov, Komogorova and slobin witness this. The campfire is a failure, the snow cave is a failure, and the only thing left to do is go back to the tent, get a shovel and possibly save their friends. It would be the only reason in my opinion to return to the tent and not stay in the safety of the forest. Hypothermia starts to sit in, and they don’t really realize how bad off they really are.
I think Slobodin skull fracture is the result of freezing out in the open with his neck possibly exposed. He could also have fallen while walking back up to the tent from the ravine. It is the only piece that looks like it could spin another theory, but I think those two scenarios are the cause for his injury.
It might just be that simple.
The other theories that have been mentioned I do not see the data to bring myself to those conclusions. I do not see the data that supports.
1- A missile test or some kind of radiation experiment. - The whole place and everyone would send a Geiger counter off the charts. The reason why radiation showed up on clothing and the explanation why the small reading is present makes perfect sense. No craters or data showing anything explosive
2- Humans forced them out of the tent. - There is simply no evidence of any of this. With the current weather conditions that we know to have existed, no other humans were standing out in the middle of nowhere as they would be subject to freeze to death as well.
3- Animals. – Again, there is no evidence to support this. In the current weather conditions of the camp the animals were down in the forest. The same place where the hikers were headed for the same reason. Cover.
4- Yeti, UFO, Ball lighting, Time Portal, poisonous gases. – The data just is not there to support any of these things no matter how outside of the box thinking is applied. The data is simply just not there to make those conclusions.
5- A fight or disagreement among the group. – I do not see the data to make that conclusion. Fighting people don’t all walk down the mountain together and there would be physical evidence of clothes, being ripped or blood stained.
J Proxy
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Ziljoe:
Hi John proxy.
Welcome to the rabbit hole.
Just to start, I think there's 6 people in that two photos if you cross compare , at least 5 , so there's only 2 or 3 people directly missing from the photo from what we can see , or what we think we see.
The tent was definitely cut, whether that's during the incident of the fatal night or when the searchers tried to get in is open to debate..the description of it not being torn apart at least makes some logic . Someone cut across the grain/ weave and I personally don't have an argument against me that.
Water is definitely important.
I don't think they walked down the slope in single file, it was abreast ..
I don't think they had a shovel.
I think that the rib fractures are due to some snow collapse at the ravine.
Other than that I'm as lost as everyone.
John Proxy:
"The tent was definitely cut, whether that's during the incident of the fatal night or when the searchers tried to get in is open to debate..the description of it not being torn apart at least makes some logic . Someone cut across the grain/ weave and I personally don't have an argument against me that. "
is there a picture artifact of this? I can't seem to locate anything but a picture of the whole tent.
J Proxy.
Ziljoe:
https://dyatlovpass.com/1959-search#the-tent
And here.
https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-303-304
I'm sure there's more as I was looking at it today..there's three cuts that are recorded as specifically being done from the inside and across the weave. Closer to the entrance.
John Proxy:
Thanks for the reply and info. These were the ones I was referring to that show the whole tent. I was kind of expecting to see something much closer up to the tent with a ruler etc. There appears to be some other issues with the accuracy of the drawing as well. What i find interesting is in the drawing on the link you provided with all the cuts measured and why some were there.. You know what is missing? There is nothing show any of the patching that was described in the diary entries I have read. Those are the things that having me questioning to accuracy as to it being cut from the inside.
J Proxy
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