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Another look at the flying orbs

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amashilu:
Just finished reading a 2021 publication by Henning Kuersten, in which he looks again at those flying orbs that were reported around Mt. Otorten the night of Feb. 1-2, 1959. The book is quite long and detailed and I found what he had to say very interesting. I wonder if anyone else has read it?

https://www.amazon.com/Dyatlov-Pass-Mystery-Cold-Case-ebook/dp/B08XC3LCFJ?ref_=ast_author_mpb

amashilu:
You will remember Lev Ivanov, after studying the DPI his entire life, finally concluded that it was an aerial phenomenon that killed the hikers. He said "UFO" but without aliens, simply an unidentified flying object.

Kuersten tells us that plasma is considered the 4th state of matter (after liquid, solid, and gas), and that it is highly charged and can do amazing and unstable things. He says that a plasma ball floating over Mt. Otorten, as seen by hiking groups in other locations in the Urals that night, exploded, producing a blast wave and causing injuries and burns. He goes on to give many examples of plasma balls throughout history in many different places and times. The Mansi were quite familiar with these plasma balls, particularly the type where there is a main big ball, which then spawns a bunch of smaller ones, which they called "lanterns." He proposes that one of these exploded near the tent, causing that big flat circle of snow that had melted and then refrozen (which others have suggested was where helicopters landed). He also proposes that one of the smaller balls got inside the tent and exploded on the top of the now-broken ski pole that has puzzled people for so long; it also shattered the lens of the camera that was found in the tent, set up on a tripod. This explosion near -- or inside of -- the tent was what caused the hikers to leave the tent.

He also says that at least 4 of the hikers and possibly 5 were taking pictures of the plasma event, which was so extraordinary that Zolotaryev took his camera with him when they left the tent. He does present these photos in the book, some of which I had not seen before.

Anyway, it's pretty interesting stuff.

RMK:
Thanks for this post, amashilu.  I may end up reading Kuersten's book myself, because I've been curious about what kind of case could be made for ball lightning.  Does he believe the plasma ball's explosion to be the cause of the injuries that Dubinina, Zolotaryov, and Thibeaux-Brignolles suffered?

amashilu:

--- Quote from: RMK on December 21, 2024, 08:36:24 AM ---Thanks for this post, amashilu.  I may end up reading Kuersten's book myself, because I've been curious about what kind of case could be made for ball lightning.  Does he believe the plasma ball's explosion to be the cause of the injuries that Dubinina, Zolotaryov, and Thibeaux-Brignolles suffered?

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Yes, and also the terrible burns on Yuri K’s leg.
Given that over 60 years have passed since this happened, and countless very smart experts have looked at the case from all their points of view but no agreed-upon explanation has been found, it does make sense that it could have been caused by an unusual weather phenomenon, unknown at the time, still being explored and studied, and that would generate burns and explosions and also was actually seen and recorded by other folks that night.
Wikipedia has several interesting historical examples of these phenomena, under the heading Ball Lightning.

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