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Teddy's new trip
Teddy:
Kholat Syakhl is called Dead (Bare) Mountain because nothing grows there, but I found antlers that had fallen naturally from a reindeer on top of it which is a vast plateau. I have them in my room, call them my Urals Dream catcher.
This video is a flyover the top of 1079.
All around the "Dead Mountain" is a forest full of animals, bears in particular. I can vouch for that.
Osi:
Due to climate change, snowfall has decreased by 60 percent compared to the 60s. This situation; It is relatively valid in the north of the hemisphere. It is no longer possible to relive those days. It may not be possible to determine a cornice and bridge. I am in favor of making some amateur experiments. For example, I would push a human-shaped model filled with straw down what was known as Valley 4 and record videos of the way it fell and its speed. To get an idea of the slope, I would like to observe the movement of a half cubic meter aluminum or tin can filled with stones (50 kg) downhill as it is pushed from the summit 1079. With a tent similar to the Dp tent at the possible tent site, provided that there is a comfortable tent nearby, how much on a night without fire? To test if you can stand it. Trying to light a fire near a cedar tree around 21:00, without any preparation, using the wood and matches you found around (spontaneously) would be something I would like to experience.
Teddy:
This is a little ambitious for my one-night trip to the pass, but we can keep the ideas as a general concept.
GlennM:
Teddy, what your " Nothing goes there" reply produced was physical evidence ( antlers) that something does go there. That something would be reason enough for Mansi to know that part of the Urals. If they know it, then they perhaps make use of it.
If they do, then perhaps snow dens are/were made by Mansi around the time of the DP expedition. If true, then the hikers may have been looking for one in the ravine when trouble began.
Simply said, Mansi hunt and trap in the area by the cedar. They build dens to shelter from cold between hunts. The hikers may have found a new or old one, but probably by surprise. They fell in.
Thank you for the reply and insight. It is appreciated.
Teddy:
"We walked a lot, but searched unsystematically and without a plan. The mood of students and the leader is bad. They were invited to relocate the camp to the valley of the Lozva river so as not to spend half the time on the crossings. But they did not do it. We decided to serve 10 days in the form of hiking back and forth. Cowards. When I found something soft near that cedar and began to dig one and a half meter of snow, at first one student decided to help me, but when I got closer to the ground, he ran away. It was hide covered with (thick) moss." Grigoriev notebook 3
We have the notes of journalist Grigoriev who found a hide (skin) in the area of the cedar. This added to the Mansi trail that Dyatlov was following says that the Mansi were hunting there.
Mansi said about Otorten "Don't go there" as in "It's cold, and windy, you can die there".
Kholat Syakhl is Dead Mountain, because there is nothing on top of it. That doesn't mean animals don't roam. And the hunting was all over, only hunters wouldn't climb the mountain, there is no need for that, because the animals would eventually come down. And although the altitude of 1079 m doesn't seem much, believe me when I tell you that is arduous to go up.
So we know the cedar was a Mansi pit stop. The den could have been made by anyone, not just the Dyatlov group.
Today I will write my manifesto for this expedition. Please check to be notified.
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