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Teddy's new trip
OLD JEDI 72:
The real experiment is timing a visit with a massive temperature inversion. The hikers themselves said it was warm with wind like a jet engine. That's why they were walking around with jackets unbuttoned. And sitting in the tent with no heat but clothes and shoes off. And then the temperature completely flipped after the tent event. Modern weather models can predict it to a T.
GlennM:
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MDGross:
Shura walked down the slope in socks. But I have the feeling he was wearing a coat and hood and gloves. And he walked in daylight. I cling to the opinion that no one, including members of the Dyatlov group, could survive two or more hours in a pair of pants and a shirt in sub-zero temperatures and a strong wind. Perhaps they didn't walk down the slope in the first place, and their feet show no frostbite because at least five of them (Doroshenko, Krivonischenko, Siobodin, Kolmogorova and Dyatlov) died of hypothermia before their feet suffered frostbite.
I'll be curious to know, Teddy, that on the night you camp on the slope if you or anyone in your party think they could walk in socks, pants and a shirt to the forest below, climb a tree, cut branches and build a fire before dying of hypothermia.
Ziljoe:
Many people walk in in socks in winter. The only negative to walking in socks is the durability of the sole, not the the insulation properties. Sura was wearing slightly better clothing but I think it was an experiment on the footwear. As to daylight v nighttime, it has little bearing , yes it might help in the instance of shura but some days are colder than the night time.
Also no one was in a pair of pants or a single shirt. They all had at least double lairs on the lower half and triple layers on the torso. We don't know the wind chill but that's Important factor that should be considered.
Regarding Dyatlov himself , it was reported that he was in a group of trees that suggested he was going upwards. My interpretation was that he was found in a horse shoe type scenario. For example, he went down but when ever he decided to move up he was in an area that dictates he must have at least went down the slope , then upwards because he was stuck in surrounding trees that could only of happened by going upwards and not downwards. Frostbite can take time , it depends on slot of factors .
OLD JEDI 72:
Hi Teddy, I don't know if it's been done before but how about starting a fire with matches only and no accelerant? Then try with a lighter. It should be attempted when and if it's super windy in day or night.
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