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Title: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 26, 2019, 01:16:14 PM
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I will be appearing on the Discovery Channel program Expedition Unknown as an expert on Dyatlov Pass, the subject of a new episode
'Mystery of Dead Mountain' premiering in the US Wednesday, August 28th at 9PM EST.
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 26, 2019, 01:19:43 PM
Discovery Newsroom (https://corporate.discovery.com/discovery-newsroom/josh-gates-takes-on-great-white-sharks-and-the-siberian-winter-in-his-most-daring-adventures-yet-on-brand-new-season-of-expedition-unknown-premiering-august-7-on-discovery-channel/)

'This season, Josh Gates connects with innovative researchers and uses cutting-edge technology to tackle history’s most challenging mysteries. The search for answers – and adventure – will take him into the most extreme climates on the planet, as he braves sub-zero temperatures to snowmobile across the Siberian Tundra investigating one of the coldest cases of the Cold War: the baffling deaths of nine hikers on Russia’s infamous Dead Mountain.'

Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 26, 2019, 01:43:25 PM
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Glad you made it back.   shock1   lol1
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 26, 2019, 02:08:40 PM
thumb1

Glad you made it back.   shock1   lol1

I was insured to the hilt. We all were. So far I can say that this is the second greatest miracle in my life, after this (http://distal-humerus.com/).
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 26, 2019, 04:01:20 PM
You mean it wasn't the kgb or yeti!?!?    shock1

 nose1
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 26, 2019, 10:22:02 PM
You mean it wasn't the kgb or yeti!?!?    shock1

Oh, but it is a Yeti, recruited as a double agent by both CIA and then KGB.
I am wearing the Yeti costume in the episode.
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Star man on August 27, 2019, 08:49:16 AM
Sounds good.  Will have to try and find that episode when it is available.

Regards
Star man
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 27, 2019, 12:32:57 PM
They post them here to watch AFTER they air, but I couldn't tell you how long it takes for them to post it.  Could be a week for all I know.
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Star man on August 27, 2019, 04:10:09 PM
I'll keep an eye out for it.

Thanks

Star man
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 28, 2019, 08:44:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqPsW6SFTvM
On 1:35 I have been called "one of the world's leading experts on the event" - I am brushing a tear from the edge of my eye... I feel like preparing an Oscar speech.

https://youtu.be/w7UzWZ12pzY
And here is what I look like all dressed like Michelin Man.

Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 28, 2019, 09:06:37 AM
Just as a forewarning to our members.

Remember, this show is most likely going sensationalize several theories that you may/may not subscribe to. Think of it more of a click-bait show getting viewers interested by emphasizing the fantastical. 

Just like all the other shows we have seen.... there will likely be no "answers", and the content should be treated as the entertainment that it is.   thumb1
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 28, 2019, 09:21:17 AM
100%
I have never made much out of the missing tongue and eyes. But here I am talking about this.
I will publish my notes about the journey. I am allowed after the the episode airs.
One thing I can assure you though - Josh Gates and the crew, Libecki and the Russian support were all amazing professionals. I was truly very lucky with my first encounter with the filming industry and organized expeditions. Episodes like the one you will see tonight are needed to provoke thinking with visuals and reenactments and dramatizations. You have to keep an eye for the facts. Can't just know the case from a movie, but it is an aid to easy the public into the subject. Everybody started with some kind of cookie, I was sucked into the matter by a stupid movie (Devil's Pass).
“If you give a mouse a cookie, he’s going to ask for a glass of milk. When you give him the milk, he’ll probably ask you for a straw. When he’s finished, he’ll ask you for a napkin.”
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 28, 2019, 09:27:16 AM
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Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Morski on August 28, 2019, 09:46:33 AM
Bravo, Teddy! And, what is more, we folks are privileged to be able to keep an eye on the facts, because of this site and forum.  thumb1
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 28, 2019, 11:01:06 AM
https://youtu.be/Aci3xUMZmrA
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 28, 2019, 11:07:58 AM
Part 2 of our Dyatlov Pass investigation - Expedition Unknown's "Siberia's Coldest Case" - is set to premiere Wednesday, September 4, 9PM EST.  declare1

I guess I will have to wait with my memoirs till the second episode airs.

Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 28, 2019, 08:39:18 PM
For members residing within the US, the show is free to watch as posted on the Discovery Channels website.
https://go.discovery.com/tv-shows/expedition-unknown/

If anyone outside the US cannot view/watch it on their site, shoot me a message and I will see what I can do. 
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Seeisme on August 29, 2019, 01:12:37 AM
Bravo Teddy! Looking forward to next episode. Sharon
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 29, 2019, 02:13:28 AM
https://youtu.be/kt37ocNR2e8
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: PghRunner on August 29, 2019, 09:32:44 AM
I was SO excited to watch this episode!  I really enjoy Expedition Unknown, so this was basically my dream episode.  Teddy, you were incredible--I threw a pillow at my husband and said, "That's Teddy!  She runs THE site!"  I'll allow myself one fan-girl moment.

I really liked how the episode knocked several of the theories off rather quickly, especially the Mansi.  It was visually stunning and I really think that the visual context--seeing just how cold Josh was and how absolutely barren the terrain is--put things in a much different perspective.  It's one thing to read about it and look at the stills.  But to see the struggle through the snow and the temperature readings...I don't know, it just gave me the chills.  It made it so alive.

I'm looking forward to next week's episode.  I really hope it sparks more interest and more conversation on the incident!

All the best,
Heather
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 29, 2019, 12:03:45 PM
Gulag killer....   We do know there were no 'reported' missing/escaped prisoners at the time the incident happened, BUT I don't think the theory would be based 'absolutely' on this fact alone. What we do not know is how many missing/escaped prisoners there were in the months and years prior.  There could have been a whole "band" of them out there evading the authorities in the deep wilderness.

Simply writing this theory off the table based on one location out of MANY and on the singular fact that that one location didn't have anyone missing/escaped at the time is premature in my opinion.  Perhaps 'if' the government was embarrassed and wishing to cover it up to maintain the public trust in security etc, it would lend reason and motive to state there were none missing/escaped when there actually were.  In other words, can you really trust the report?
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: vanadis on August 29, 2019, 02:48:15 PM
Wow, thats amazing!!! bigjoke Cudos to you. Will try to to watch the show!!
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: PghRunner on August 29, 2019, 02:54:19 PM
Weeeell, I meant more along the lines of the Yeti, based on the "mysterious" photograph.  I'm not a Yeti believer, despite my husband's insistence they're just roaming around.

I think the Gulag killer is a really interesting though and I wish there'd been more time to discuss that one.  I don't really know a lot about that theory, but, based on what you said, it does seem ripe for further exploration.  It'd be a massive undertaking, but it would be really interesting to review records and trace those that went missing/escaped in a range of dates prior to the Incident.  That said, I'm not sure what kind of records would exist and if they would omit certain things.  I'm not well versed in Gulags and how secretive they could be.  It certainly is interesting, though.  Especially, as you noted, admitting failure to be able to keep dangerous criminals locked up could reflect a failure on the government.  That's something they definitely didn't want.  So interesting!  But, I definitely agree that the Gulag "killer" can't as easily be written off.  My only question would be that of motive, but, that's probably a better topic explored on another part of the boards.

So, really, what I'm saying is I don't just want a two part episode, I want a mini-series.  :)
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 30, 2019, 01:50:08 AM
EXPEDITION UNKNOWN: "Mystery of Dead Mountain" DVD version for download (.MOV 1.37 GB)
https://spaces.hightail.com/receive/sgr8b0jUgQ (https://spaces.hightail.com/receive/sgr8b0jUgQ)

Provided by Discovery Post Production Coordinator with the words:
"We thank you once again for your enthusiasm, expertise, and tireless hard work on this episode – and we hope you enjoy it!"
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Star man on August 30, 2019, 04:20:43 AM
I have only had time to watch about half of it so the team haven’t got to the pass yet.  But so far so good.   thumb1. It doesn’t seem as sensationalised as the discovery monster weekend episode- which is really good. 

So far they have put a line through the Yeti theory based on frame 17 being a hiker - no surprise there but not much other reasoning to why it was deleted.  I suppose Mike Lebeki was rather stung by the way the monster weekend programme was edited?

I look forward to watching the rest.

Regards

Star man
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: track hunter on August 30, 2019, 07:42:09 AM
Не вижу ничего смешного. Их убили дикие, лесные люди. Две особи.
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 30, 2019, 07:46:15 AM
Не вижу ничего смешного. Их убили дикие, лесные люди. Две особи.

Translation:
I do not see anything funny. They were killed by wild, forest people. Two individuals.

Dear track hunter,




Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: track hunter on August 30, 2019, 07:49:31 AM
Не вижу ничего смешного. Их убили дикие, лесные люди. Две особи.

Translation:
I do not see anything funny. They were killed by wild, forest people. Two individuals.

Dear track hunter,

  • Nobody is laughing.
  • The official language of this forum is English. Members won't understand what you are saying. I know it is difficult to translate with Google but this is what we do when we try Russian forums which is 95% of the net. Have the courtesy please. No hard feelings.
Oк. But I'm not sure that the translator will do this well. Is such a translation good?
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 30, 2019, 07:58:43 AM
For comments in a forum is OK. We are used since Borzenkov (WAB) is posting essays translated with Google. What I posted as translation to your comment is directly copied from Google. People here will have to do it with same means, but have to copy/paste it first and this will frustrate or draw them back. Anyway - for DP documents Google is tragic, but for comments is OK. I see your English is better than our Russian here (statistically).
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: track hunter on August 30, 2019, 08:19:35 AM
OK. It’s easier for me, the browser automatically translates English-language sites. I know a little English, but writing in English is difficult.
I have something to say and show. I am familiar with the question of studying bigfoot. In addition, I have hunter friends and unbiased biologists with whom I discussed this version. The conclusions we have are unequivocal. Forest people were involved in the tragedy at the Dyatlov pass. Two.
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 30, 2019, 08:25:15 AM
OK. It’s easier for me, the browser automatically translates English-language sites. I know a little English, but writing in English is difficult.
I have something to say and show. I am familiar with the question of studying bigfoot. In addition, I have hunter friends and unbiased biologists with whom I discussed this version. The conclusions we have are unequivocal. Forest people were involved in the tragedy at the Dyatlov pass. Two.

Great!

Please start a new thread in the proper section for that topic..   Looking forward to it.   okey1

Proper section here. http://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?board=24.0
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 30, 2019, 08:28:12 AM
OK. It’s easier for me, the browser automatically translates English-language sites. I know a little English, but writing in English is difficult.
I have something to say and show. I am familiar with the question of studying bigfoot. In addition, I have hunter friends and unbiased biologists with whom I discussed this version. The conclusions we have are unequivocal. Forest people were involved in the tragedy at the Dyatlov pass. Two.

Your English is pretty good. What do you mean by "forest people"? Menk?
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: track hunter on August 30, 2019, 08:33:25 AM
OK. It’s easier for me, the browser automatically translates English-language sites. I know a little English, but writing in English is difficult.
I have something to say and show. I am familiar with the question of studying bigfoot. In addition, I have hunter friends and unbiased biologists with whom I discussed this version. The conclusions we have are unequivocal. Forest people were involved in the tragedy at the Dyatlov pass. Two.

Your English is pretty good. What do you mean by "forest people"? Menk?
Yes. The people of Mansi call him Menkw. Each native people has its own name.
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Star man on August 30, 2019, 08:34:10 AM
OK. It’s easier for me, the browser automatically translates English-language sites. I know a little English, but writing in English is difficult.
I have something to say and show. I am familiar with the question of studying bigfoot. In addition, I have hunter friends and unbiased biologists with whom I discussed this version. The conclusions we have are unequivocal. Forest people were involved in the tragedy at the Dyatlov pass. Two.

Tracker - you have my interest.  I have been exploring the Yeti theory in Yeti/Menk section.  Am interested in what you have to say about the forest people.

Regards
Star man
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 30, 2019, 08:35:58 AM
Please start a new topic here http://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?board=24.0
or comment on Star man's theory http://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=452.0
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on August 31, 2019, 02:04:57 PM
sarapuk's post has been moved to http://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=452.msg7084#msg7084 (http://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=452.msg7084#msg7084)
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: PghRunner on September 04, 2019, 07:24:50 PM
Tonight's episode was very, very good!  Teddy, I can't imagine what it was like to stand there and see the same terrain they did.  It was haunting to watch it on television. 

I thought the ending was quite appropriate and, I will admit, I did tear up when you read the inscription on the memorial and all their names were said.  I do hope, one day, the mystery is solved!
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on September 05, 2019, 08:55:25 AM
Tonight's episode was very, very good!  Teddy, I can't imagine what it was like to stand there and see the same terrain they did.  It was haunting to watch it on television. 

I thought the ending was quite appropriate and, I will admit, I did tear up when you read the inscription on the memorial and all their names were said.  I do hope, one day, the mystery is solved!

When Teddy was at that memorial rock, she somehow ended up with a few chunks of it stowed away with her gear, and a small piece found its way all the way to Texas.  True story. 
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on September 05, 2019, 01:42:51 PM
When Teddy was at that memorial rock, she somehow ended up with a few chunks of it stowed away with her gear, and a small piece found its way all the way to Texas.  True story.
You deserve it. I say this form the bottom of my heart.
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Star man on September 05, 2019, 03:40:52 PM
Really enjoyed watching this investigation into the dpi. Much more down to earth. Well done Teddy and the rest of the investigators.

 Nice one taking the tree ring samples too.  The show stated they found radiation but not enough to determine that there had been a major event.  Is there more detail on the analysis anywhere?  I would have been looking for a spike of strontium 90 around about the 60thtree ring back (ie 60 years ago) and a more diffuse spread of caesium 137.  Would also have been worth taking a reference tree ring sample some distance away to differentiate between atmospheric increases in radiation due Russian and global nuclear testing at the time.

Regards

Star man
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on September 05, 2019, 04:41:31 PM
These new detectors are capable of picking up the smallest levels, so I'm wondering if this was just BARELY above background levels.  Another rock I have is Trinitite.....  picked it up at the Trinity site New Mexico.   Its 'hot' but perfectly safe to hold...  I just don't recommend swallowing any of it.   shock1

The rock Teddy sent me looks like the ore in which uranium is mined from.... thinking about having it tested. 
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: JV on September 05, 2019, 09:00:06 PM
It was a great show and you were great expert addition to the show Teddy!!! I'm knew to this whole incident but I know what an emotional impact being there must have been for you.  I'm not as deeply invested into this as all of you and I am sure even I would have been overwhelmed.  Thank you for all you do!!!  clap1

Btw, I LOVE your knitted cap and wonder if you have a pattern for it or if you bought it.
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Teddy on September 05, 2019, 10:50:03 PM
Btw, I LOVE your knitted cap and wonder if you have a pattern for it or if you bought it.

I am a fashionista now. I bought it from either REI or Sports Direct, many years ago.
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Monika on September 05, 2019, 11:14:21 PM
Hello Teddy

Thank you for the link to the video.
On the one hand, it was seen to have been made by an American "little cheesy / film-dramatic style" but on the other hand, I liked Josh's approach to the whole thing very humanly and compassionately. Unfortunately, there are many videos on Dyatl's mystery on YouTube where moderators have fun, laugh, and videos are made more for fun and shocking viewers and lack a human approach.
Now, I'm glad there was a video where the topic is not tabloid.

The idea of testing radiation from inside the tree was good, just a pity we didn't move forward in our quest.

What surprised me was how rocky the slope was, and despite the heavy snow cover, rock stuck everywhere under the snow. I had no idea this before. Now I know how many injuries and scratches could have occurred.
Title: Re: Expedition Unknown on Discovery Channel
Post by: Star man on September 05, 2019, 11:46:30 PM
These new detectors are capable of picking up the smallest levels, so I'm wondering if this was just BARELY above background levels.  Another rock I have is Trinitite.....  picked it up at the Trinity site New Mexico.   Its 'hot' but perfectly safe to hold...  I just don't recommend swallowing any of it.   shock1

The rock Teddy sent me looks like the ore in which uranium is mined from.... thinking about having it tested.

If it is uranium ore there might also be some radium in it.  Keep it in a well ventilated area as it might produce radon gas.

Going back to the show and the tree samples the thing to look for would be changes in relative abundance of Strontium 90 across the tree rings.  Radiation alone might not be significant after 60 years.  Would be interesting to see how the tests were done.  Did they use mass spectroscopy for instance.

Also in the show they took directly radiation readings from the tree.  Would be interesting to understand if this was just gamma or also beta and alpha.

The show was really good.  Gives a much greater sense of how desolate the place is.  Definitely the best tv show for someone who is just starting to learn about the dpi.

Regards

Star man