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GlennM:
Currently on Dyatlov Pass.com is an article revisiting the avalanche theory. As I read it, I thought, " unknown compelling force" as the official explanation. I believe that the conclusion is that one and all were doomed by one and one only unknown compelling force. Does this ring true?

Next, I am thankful and impressed by the quality of the article and the carefully photographed images of the tent and surrounds. However, we are not afforded an glance regarding the angle from tent to the peak of 1079.  Perhaps the incline is sufficent to propel a slide of snow. Finally, for me at least, an avalanche and a slab slip are different phenomoma. The 2025 winter expedition makes it clear that by cutting a leveling ledge for the tent, the explorers may slice through distinct densities of snow. The spindrift snow accumulated on the 2025 tent may represent a sufficient weight of material to collapse one side of the tent.

That said, I am reminded about the saying that in rough seas, you stay with the ship since it can take more punishment than you can. It would take a whole lot of punishment for me to abandon my only shelter in the snow and plod downhill all that way for a fire when I could just pile on more clothes and wait it out with my friends.

Axelrod:
The main task of the prosecutor's office and the investigation was to identify criminal offenders in order to isolate them from society.
Although, most likely, in those years, it was not isolation that was used, but the death penalty.
The investigation was unable to identify such offenders.

As you understand, the investigation cannot punish avalanches, water, wind, bears, yetis, fireballs. So, it was not interesting for the investigation to clarify the cause.

Ziljoe:
There seems to be a number of claims being reported from the latest expedition, all quite interesting.

From what I can understand but some of it may be incorrect as it's through the press. However, what I have read .

The snow was over 1.5 meters at the tent site and was even deeper above the tent location , perhaps 4 meters.

It was -20 outside the replica tent but -2 inside the tent without a stove.

It was easy to navigate in the dark towards the forest but not so easy going back up.

People walked in similar clothing layers of Zina , and I think it was done with no bad outcomes.

It was noted that some of the rocks/stones on the slope were dangerous hazards if one was to fall.


The replica tent had considerable build up of snow after being there for a couple of days ( someone is arguing that there is a snow break in this photo. )

We can see how fresh snow could build up on and above the tent?

SURI:
@ GlennM

Thanks for the link. I probably wouldn't have noticed it, I don't follow everything.

The avalanche didn't drive them out of the tent. I agree with E. Tumanov about the injuries. I also think that the 4 in the ravine died on the spot and were then unable to move. This rules out Zolotaryov having a pencil or notepad in his hand. Same Slobodin. It's inconceivable that Rustem would have had an accident in a ravine or near a cedar tree and still managed to climb the slope. Simply not. I also agree that Lyudmila survived 2 at the cedar, but not only her, but everyone in the ravine.

Osi:
Most of the archived avalanche footage; It was caught by chance on the security cameras of hotels in ski resorts or obtained from the helmet cameras of athletes skiing wildly. In fact, places that have been monitored for decades and have no avalanche danger cause avalanches due to skiers cutting the snow with their sleds, and thus we have the chance to watch live avalanche footage.
There is a second situation. In many different regions of Turkey; When you put your car in neutral and release the handbrake on a road that slopes 30 degrees towards the hill, the vehicle starts to climb up the hill. If you cannot maintain control, acceleration increases. You can go astray.  Although it may seem against the laws of physics for this vehicle to climb the ramp without engine power, when we look at the geography of the region from a general perspective (from the satellite), it is seen that the place that looks like a hill when examined on site actually has a downhill terrain when viewed from a certain height. I don't know if a similar study has been done on the slope measurements of Kholat Mountain with local observations, but I think that places with no avalanche potential according to local measurements may have hidden slopes that will cause avalanches with certain triggering factors.

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