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Avalanche theory...again
Marc:
The avalanche theory is reasonably plausible, but I have many doubts.
If indeed some of the serious injuries occurred in the tent due to an avalanche, then the journey to the cedar and beyond must have been undoubtedly difficult. Considering the extent of the chest injuries of some of the group members, these people were not walking on their own, let alone how long they were able to live. So we have several group members who have suffered fatal injuries, and those who carry them decide to move hundreds of meters away from the tent without even trying to get basic clothes, boots, and equipment to survive ( it's worth imagining how difficult it must have been to get the seriously injured out of there!) Eventually they do make an attempt to reach the tent (possibly hours later) but by then it's too late...
I find this scenario hard to believe.
Let's assume that there was an avalanche, but no major injuries were caused by it, but they occurred where the bodies were found - in the ravine. In which case the avalanche theory is little bit more plausible. But we have to remember - then two unfortunate events occurred in a relatively short period of time - an avalanche in the tent and several people falling into the ravine later. How likely is that!? And again, they got out under the avalanche, but they couldn't put on boots or warmer clothes in a hurry. It may have been a terrible experience, but was it so terrible that they had to face another death - a journey into the cold night?
I have my own strong doubts about this scenario too.
One more thing - there was a man who is reasonably experienced and could foresee avalanche danger. He was there with the hikers on that fateful night. This man was Igor Dyatlov. Unlike us, he had an overview that we will never have and I believe that he made a reasonable decision. If there had been a serious avalanche risk, the tent would not have been there.
Human error, hasty decision, later staged tent location, etc. - everyone can open many more mental rabbit holes, but I personally prefer not to.
GlennM:
I have thought about the abandonment of the tent sans ski boots. I recall that the skis were laid beneath the tent as a foundation, so without skis, the boots would be diffucult to hike in. I personally don't think that life threatening injuries happened at the tent. The footprints to the cedar would be different.
At the cedar, it seems clear they had a fire, but it was insufficient. It is possible that injuries happened in the attempt to make a more robust fire.
I can envision s situation where the group splits at the cedar with some trying to regain the tent, others sheltering in the ravine. I personally think hypothermia is the root cause of their injuries, including the most severe ones.
Igor would have had a successful hike and all would advance in certification. I know forester Rempel advised against the route, but perhaps a slab slip in aggressive wind was considered unlikely. The fact that they made so little progress at the end suggests that it was as bad as Rempel said. At that point, they are faced with a choice which is to accept defeat or press on. I personally think they were compelled to try. Further, I think that nobody in the group wanted to be " that one" who whines and torpedoes the expedition. Hubris did them in.
Marc:
Hypothermia was most likely the cause of death for several members of the group, yes. And many injuries probably occurred from slipping, falling, breaking branches, making fire, etc. People were in a desperate situation. Bodies in the ravine were found much later and who knows what temperature and weather conditions they were all this time. But It is hard to believe that all injuries can be explained by this.
The worsening weather and the desire to definitely finish the hike, despite everything, could have caused haste and carelessness, which turned into a chain reaction of events. I don't believe it, but it's a realistic possibility. I have thought about this too, but it still does not explain the abandonment of the tent in such a way.
This is the key to the Dyatlov Pass incident.
Ziljoe:
--- Quote from: Marc on May 04, 2025, 03:41:50 AM ---
Hypothermia was most likely the cause of death for several members of the group, yes. And many injuries probably occurred from slipping, falling, breaking branches, making fire, etc. People were in a desperate situation. Bodies in the ravine were found much later and who knows what temperature and weather conditions they were all this time. But It is hard to believe that all injuries can be explained by this.
The worsening weather and the desire to definitely finish the hike, despite everything, could have caused haste and carelessness, which turned into a chain reaction of events. I don't believe it, but it's a realistic possibility. I have thought about this too, but it still does not explain the abandonment of the tent in such a way.
This is the key to the Dyatlov Pass incident.
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This has always been the discussion, why did they leave the tent, and why leave without more clothing and equipment.
We have to conclude that some environmental thing happened that prevented them from doing so or there was outsiders.
There's basically only three options,
1) avalanche, wind, ultrasound , animal etc, something natural to the environment
2) outsiders
3) it was staged.
OLD JEDI 72:
4. Someone or a couple of someones got into a brawl inside the tent. Insiders.
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