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Puzzle with 5 (10) corpses
Axelrod:
Here I will try not just to write some thoughts, but to combine evidence from the criminal case and intereviews.
Karelin witness testomony:
(February 28) This day four bodies were found: Kolmogorovа, Dyatlov, Krivonischenko and Doroshenko, the latter we first confused with Zolotaryov, because his face was covered with snow, and only later we identified the fourth body as Doroshenko.
(February 28) The next day the tent of the Dyatlov group was dismantled and three bodies were taken to the pass.
Radiogram of Maslennokov (Sheet 160): 28.2 1707 (To Sulman)
Couldn't get in touch with Akselrod, from him that is Akselrod a helicopter flew off. The search has not given anything yet. It was possible to find traces of 8-9 people from the tent about 1 km down the slope, further the traces were lost. One person was wearing boots, the rest in socks and barefoot. Further down the slope the snow is very deep and investigation of the tent did reveal anything. Dogs today could not do anything, the snow was deep. 3 bodies were transported to the heli pad. The fourth will be picked up tomorrow his face - completely unrecognizable therefore there is an opinion that this is Doroshenko and not Zolotaryov. They are both the biggest guys. We examined the place of the tent and made a report, the items were let down to the heli pad. They will be sent to you in the tent there were 10 sets of sheets 8 pairs of boots 9 backpacks, all the personal belongings of the victims, supplies for for 2-3 days, the remaining products for 8 days were left in the cache site in the upper sources of Auspiya river the whole group was together. Why did the entire group half-dressed abandoned the tent was not possible to establish completely incomprehensible. Tomorrow we will probe to look for people in a section of deep snow in the size of 150 meters to five hundred about one kilometer below the tent. Hikers belongings are ready to be transported you need send a helicopter for them.
Witness testimony of Sogrin (about March 1): Sheet 332:
On the first of March I, Akselrod, Tipikin, Ivanov L. N. were dropped at the scene of the accident. We were greeted by a large group of people tightly wrapped in and wearing ski caps. The wind blew snow in the face and tried to throw you off the plateau. Quickly loaded into the helicopter Dyatlov group belongings and several people. Behind the large cliff lay 3 bodies already pulled up to the helipad. Despite the bad weather weather went on a search.
Questions to Tipikin (he arriver together with Axelrod. Sogrin and Ivanov):
[T.]: During the flight to the pass on March 1, 1959, we met prosecutor L.N. Ivanov. The time of the flight passed unnoticed in conversation. The topic of discussion, of course, was one.
I did not pay attention to what cargo was transported on this flight. And was there any cargo at all? The fact that they were carrying food, that's for sure. They were already in use in the evening.
12. Did you load the dead people's belongings and tent into the helicopter upon arrival? Did anyone fly away from the pass in this helicopter?
[T.]: As far as I remember, we didn't load anything into the helicopter. Upon arrival at the pass, we immediately headed to Dyatlov's tent, and from there down to the cedar. And the bodies of Krivonischenko and Doroshenko, already harnessed to the sleds, climbed up to the pass. Thus, we simply didn't have time, or need, to observe the helicopter.
13. First impressions of the pass: who did you talk to, what did you hear, what did you do? Did you talk to Maslennikov, investigator Ivanov, journalist Yarov? How did the search go in general? What did you find during your participation?
[T.]: In the very first hours of arriving at the pass, I joined Akselrod's group in the work of lifting the bodies of Doroshenko and Krivonischenko to the pass. These are my first impressions. I did not have any private "face-to-face" conversations with Maslennikov and Ivanov, and I had no idea who Yarovoy was and had nothing to talk about with him.
14. Who lifted the 4th body – Georgy Krivonischenko?
[T.]: The bodies of Krivonischenko and Doroshenko were lifted to the pass at the same time on sleds in two groups of 5-6 people. I ended up in the "Krivonischenko lifting group". I remember well that the weather was beautiful with a slight frost.
Interview with Koptelov (he was together with Sharavin):
https://dyatlovpass.com/koptelov-2008?rbid=18461
KOPTELOV: we were busy delivering corpses to the pass.
The five people who were found. At the pass, they said, there will be a helicopter that will pick up the corpses and take us back. The helicopter arrived and took all the corpses, but they didn’t take us that day. We flew out the next day. (i.e. March 4)
N: You flew away and never went back?
K: Yes, we were already in Sverdlovsk on March 5th.
https://lenta.ru/news/2020/07/11/turist/The tourist who discovered the tent of the missing Dyatlov group has died:
Mikhail Sharavin died in Yekaterinburg at the age of 85. In 1959, he was the first to discover the empty tent of tourists from the Dyatlov group. The head of the Dyatlov Foundation, Yuri Kuntsevich, reported this to the Ura.ru portal.
<span>He noted that former tourist Sharavin died on July 8. Due to the coronavirus, few people attended his farewell ceremony. His relatives have not yet informed the foundation about the place of burial.
Rustem Slobodon was found only March 5. What was a fifth body before SLobodin.
I suppose in was recognizef Semyon ZOlotarqov which wat taken by helicopter on March 1.
Question 12. Did you load the dead people's belongings and tent into the helicopter upon arrival? Did anyone fly away from the pass in this helicopter?
[TIPIKIN.]: As far as I remember, we didn't load anything into the helicopter. Upon arrival at the pass, we immediately headed to Dyatlov's tent, and from there down to the cedar. And the bodies of Krivonischenko and Doroshenko, already harnessed to the sleds, climbed up to the pass. Thus, we simply didn't have time, or need, to observe the helicopter.
SURI:
If there were 10 dead tourists, where did the 10th backpack go?
Axelrod:
--- Quote from: SURI on March 01, 2025, 07:21:54 AM ---If there were 10 dead tourists, where did the 10th backpack go?
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And who knows better about these backpacks, you in Australia, or my uncle, who was loading these backpacks into the helicopter 66 years ago?
Ziljoe:
--- Quote from: Axelrod on March 01, 2025, 11:03:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: SURI on March 01, 2025, 07:21:54 AM ---If there were 10 dead tourists, where did the 10th backpack go?
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And who knows better about these backpacks, you in Australia, or my uncle, who was loading these backpacks into the helicopter 66 years ago?
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Suri is asking a question. What has Australia got to do with is Yout reply Axelrod?
What does your uncle know? Please share facts Axelrod ..
GlennM:
It seems that the rescue/recovery teams were as confused about the hikers as are we. The uncle did honorable work in harsh conditions. He too performed his labors without solving a problem. He was also smart enough to do his service without making additional trouble. A good man.
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