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My culprit - Thermobaric bombs dropped on the group on purpose

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Dominov:
I like to add some more thoughts to corroborate my theory.

Zorotaryov is the key to everything. He was a soldier und knew exacty what to do if you are under enemy fire: Take cover in a trench (the ravine). The first location under the cedar tree was not safe. The fire gave away their position! You could see that fire from the surrounding slopes from where the attackers launched their deadly payloads. The second bomb exploded very close to the forest edge inflicting minor or major injuries to some members of the group. Maybe the lookout who sat in the tree fell to the ground. I guess this was Doroschenko.

After the second bomb Zorotaryov realised that they were or have become a military target and that they were an easy target sitting next to a fire. So he decided to retreat to the ravine together with the ones who were still alive. The ravine would hide and protect them. There he avoided the obvious thing to do: lighting another fire. Although it was freezing cold they didn't light a second fire! A fire was so crucial for staying alive but they didn't light one. They preferred putting on clothes from the deceased colleagues in order to not freeze to death.

Zorotaryov's strategy was to stay low until the bombing attack was over. In the meantime Kolmogorova, Slobodin and Dyatlov tried to get back to the tent. They were weakend, unproperly dressed and didn't make it. They died of hypothermia. Slobodin already had some cranial trauma. At some point he just fainted and died.

The attackers launched a third bomb either to make sure that everybody was dead or because they had observed the retreat to the ravine with binoculars. This explosion sent down a massive, compressed and amplified shock wave down the ravine killing all four instantly. Injuries: broken rips, internal bleedings, missing eyeballs (they popped out or just desintegrated). These are typical injuries caused by strong shock waves.

No, there weren't any impact craters because the thermobaric bombs exploded mid-air leaving no obivous traces of an explosion. Investigator Ivanov rememberd the burned tree tops. But he misinterpreted the cause of these burned tree tops. He believed in the UFO theory. He isn't to blame for that because he dealt with a new and unknown weapon that seemed pretty alien at that time.

Possible reasons for the attack:
- eliminating witnesses of a secret weapon test
- eliminating deserters who were on a shuttle mission to the U.S. (Remember Krivonischenko accusing his mates of treason...)
- eliminating potential spies
- testing a new weapon on mobile targets...

After the incident the military restricted access to the area for 3! years: Plenty of time to clear that mess up or just cover it up.

One final thought: Why did the very experienced Dyatlov miss the Pass? Maybe because it was closed and access restricted by the military?

regards

Dominov

sarapuk:
But why would the Dyatlov Group have been allowed to go into an area where weapons testing took place, or was a secret off limits area  !  ?  That would not make much sense.

Monika:
Hello Dominov,

I'm glad you also added your theory.
Although I think the cause was unknown physical phenomenon (although it also does not explain all the details that are related to the tragedy), I do not totally reject also your theory.

I have a few comments on your statements:

As you wrote: „They avoided the obvious thing to do: lighting another fire at the ravine“
- they did not do it at the ravine probably because there was a strong wind. The strong wind was probably the reason why they also moved from the cedar to the ravine. The fire could not work for a long time.
The fact that they made a fire under the cedar rather suggests they were not being haunted by anyone.

„Kolmogorova, Slobodin and Dyatlov tried to get back to the tent.“
- If they were threatened by something, they would not go back to the tent.

„Investigator Ivanov remembered the burned tree tops. But he misinterpreted the cause of these burned tree tops. He believed in the UFO theory“.
- He claimed that the tourists were targeted by a unknown weapon from the air. Perhaps his claim was based on the fact that the burned tops were only on the trees in the area of fire settlement. But he did not make it clear whether the attacker was an army or an alien.
I have to admit that the fact that burned top of the trees only at the nearest area of the fire settling is really strange and I cannot imagine how this could happen.. But somehow I do not believe in targeted disposal by some "ray" from the air.

“After the incident the military restricted access to the area for 3! Years”:
- it is logical because the cause of the disaster remained unknown and they did not want to risk that it would be repeated. This might point to the fact that the cause was an unknown physical phenomenon, and also because of the bad reputation of that place (Mansi have avoided this place in the past), it was a real possibility that it would happen again.

“One final thought: Why did the very experienced Dyatlov miss the Pass? Maybe because it was closed and access restricted by the military?”
- If this place was closed by the army, they would certainly mention it in their diary. Also, their trip was planned for months ahead and approved by the University and Sports Clubs. In addition, they have only departed from the original route minimally.

Dominov:

--- Quote ---But why would the Dyatlov Group have been allowed to go into an area where weapons testing took place, or was a secret off limits area  !  ?  That would not make much sense.
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Assuming they weren't allowed to enter this area we must think from the point of view of Russian people living in the time of the Cold War. Everything was a war zone. Military was everywhere. Everything was restricted and top secret. Military was nothing unusual but a daily setting people were used to. There were so many stop and danger signs everywhere. Dyatlov didn't want to fall behind schedule. So he decided to bypass the restricted area. He thought that this restriction would only apply for the pass not the entire area behind it. So they naively entered a test site for thermobaric air bombs. And anyway, who would open fire with such weather conditions? Noone saw them setting foot on the slope of the Dead Mountain. The were hidden behind stormy drifts of snow. And noone saw them pitching up their tent. But eventually the storm subsided.

Then the first test bomb was launched toward the slope of the Dead Mountain. People inside the tent were undressing and preparing for the night. The bomb exploded 50 meters above ground but too far away from the tent to do real damage. First the Djatlow gourp heard a massive bang followed by a shockwave. Panic. It was hard to breathe because the bomb absorbed a lot of air. Shock and awe effect. Now they knew they were in the middle of a military test site. They had to leave this place immediately. Next bomb detonates. No time to put on shoes. No time to plan the descent. No time to grab the Finnish knives. They began their descent to the next safe place: The forest where they were protected from the wind and the frostiness.

Now the miltary saw them hasting down the slope. Who were they, what were they up to? Spies? Witnesses of a secret military test? Trespassers! Noone had told them about the ski tourists passing through that area. Did Dyatlov even hand in the route? And anyway, who cared about some students wandering through a godforsaken region at the back of beyond? It was the time of the Cold War. Tensions were extremly high. Military staff was under extreme pressure. The commanding officer decided that these people had to be eliminated. I have described what happened next.


--- Quote --- If they were threatened by something, they would not go back to the tent.
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Maybe Kolmogorava didn't want to go back to the tent. She probably wanted the attackers to cease fire, waving and shouting. She was under shock after Doroschenko and Krivonischenko died. Slobodin followed her. But he was injured and died. Djatlov moved between the cedar, the ravine and also wanted to help Slobodin and Kolmogorova. He was terribly exhausted.

Why do I think that other theories do not explain the incident.

Avalanche? Never. I come from the Swiss mountains. I know under which circumstances avalanches go down. Never on that slightly inclined slope of the Dead Mountain. The bombs may have caused some snow slabs. But nothing spectacular.

Aliens? Oh well.... Slaughter some tourists for fun? Predators?

KGB/CIA? Some bullets would have done the job.

Infrarsound. Yes you might be scared. But that won't make you ran out in your certain death.

Gravity fluctuations? People fly? That has never been observed. If that ever happens, may God be with us.

Yeti, Menk? 7 guys, three finnish knives. Doroschenko who put a bear to fiight on another tour? There is a chance that they are cryptids but why should they attack people if they managed to stay away from cameras and curious glances for so long.

Ball Lightning? They would have to be intelligent to get all nine people in a row. I don't think so.

Winterstorm and lightnings? Hmmm, would you seek shelter under trees or rather in a ravine? Ravine... The probabilty of being hit by a lightning is not very high and lightnings cause very characteristic injuries. The lightning would not hit the ravine if there are plenty of trees standing around.

regards

Dominov

Star man:

--- Quote from: sarapuk on January 14, 2019, 12:38:05 PM ---But why would the Dyatlov Group have been allowed to go into an area where weapons testing took place, or was a secret off limits area  !  ?  That would not make much sense.

--- End quote ---

They probably would not have been allowed to go there.  But is it not possible that they did not have perfect control of all people movements and that not all government departments knew who was going where?  In simple terms they made a mistake and got it wrong?

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