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A problem with homicide theories
ElizabethHarris:
Autopsy said she had copious amounts of blood in her lungs and stomach, in fact the stomach was filled with blood. I think it's a fair assumption that since her tongue is missing it's safe to conclude the blood came from the removal of the tongue. Even the worst bloody nose probably wouldn't drown a person in their own blood but I could be wrong.
Charles:
nothing here
sarapuk:
--- Quote from: Charles on February 11, 2022, 02:41:37 AM ---Hello,
--- Quote from: sarapuk on November 28, 2020, 04:35:16 PM ---There are no indications of the presence of other people in the area.
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According to the diaries, they had a "team" of Mansi deer hunters in front of them and the Russian and Mansi workers in their back at District 41. [[ But no record of other people in the area where they met their demise ]]
--- Quote from: sarapuk on November 28, 2020, 04:35:16 PM ---No footprints.
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But no photo of immaculate snow with a clear and unique track of footprints descending from the tent to the forest. Or is there one ? [[ But there is a photo of tracks descending from the tent to the forest and it seems to suggest that it was only the Dyatlov Group ]]
--- Quote from: sarapuk on November 28, 2020, 04:35:16 PM ---Nothing to really suggest that other people were involved.
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The nature of the threat that made them all get out of the tent and run to the forest. If they were alone with the laws of physics, there was no reason to leave the tent in such a hurry without shoes and equipment. If they were alone with animals such as bear or wolves, why stop a the the border of the forest (and no marks of bites) ? And they had knives, ski poles and axes which were of no use against the threat (which give a reasonable chance to repel animals but not firearms). If it is neither physical, nor animal... then it is human. It's like if the threat claimed the tent and the hikers knew their only chance was to stay away but not so far from the tent in the hope that the threat would finally leave it. If it's physical, no reason to leave the tent whatsoever, if it's animal, no reason not to fight back with cold steel... so, leaving the tent without fighting back means attacker with firepower and interested with the tent... human. Maybe the attackers stayed in the tent for a while, waiting for the cold to kill the hikers, and cut the tissue when leaving to check and finish off the hikers... [[ May be other people or animals werent involved ]]
Greetings
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Charles:
nothing here
Ziljoe:
Hi Charles,
You mention Slobodin had chest injuries?
"Slobodin having both life threatening fracture injuries in the chest-head area and minor wounds at the back of the hands"
I am not aware of Slobodin having having fractures in the chest area. ( it is possible that I missed this).It has been suggested that his skull fracture was down to freezing and I believe this has been recorded in other cases. Due to Slobodin wearing a hat and having been found with ice under his body there is the possibility that it was freezing that caused the fracture of the skull.
It is interesting that the ravine four have no marks on the backs of their hands. This could support the theory that they died instantly from a snow collapse at the location of the ravine, from above .
I also understand that some of the marks are consistent with victims of hyperthermia or freezing.
Just my penny's worth.
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