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Chivruay tragedy 1973
Teddy:
--- Quote from: sarapuk on September 01, 2018, 01:53:46 PM ---Interesting.
Tamara Muravyova and Sergey Kuznetsov, Mikhail's younger brother, were the only ones who made sure that they were allowed to be identified. The children in Kuibyshev were buried in closed coffins. As Tamara recalls, the skin of her friends was of a strange color: someone brown, someone almost black or yellow. Everyone had empty eye sockets, eyes burst. Sergei Gusev allegedly had medical experts discovered signs of oxygen shortage. Death occurred at about five in the morning (plus or minus half an hour) on January 27.
We need the AUTOPSY REPORTS.
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About the missing eyes and the rest of the nonsense. You have a living first responder who found the first and last bodies. Why don't ask him? wait, I did ask him.
https://dyatlovpass.com/chivruay-incident-5?lid=1&flp=1#noeyes
Teddy:
--- Quote from: sarapuk on October 08, 2018, 04:04:58 PM ---In this particular Topic we are supposed to be looking at potential similarities between the DYATLOV GROUP demise and the CHIVRUAY GROUP demise. There doesnt appear to be any significant similarities.
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I did this article to prove you right :)
https://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=628.0
WAB:
Today (January 22, 2023) marks exactly 50 years since the day when a group of KuAI travelers was in Moscow as an intermediate point. It was met by our guys from MAI and escorted in the evening to the train that took them to the Kola Peninsula.
We had very good friendly connections with the guys from the KUAI, because our vocal group "Skylark", directed by Dima Dikhter, was our first guest from other cities at Valery Grushin Festival.
They were seen in the morning of January 24 at Olenya railway station, and in the evening at the beginning of the route in the village of Ilma. After that there was no information that they had been seen along the route further on.
On January 28 a group of MAI trekkers passing through the Chivruay pass found 5 frozen bodies and ID'd them as part of that group.
All what happened next and the analysis of possible reasons is written in a separate section on this site https://dyatlovpass.com/chivruay-incident-2?lid=1.
Ziljoe:
Hi WAB. Good to hear from you. Hope you are well.
WAB:
Today (January 26, or more precisely on the night from January 26 to 27) will be 50 years from the date of death of the group of travelers from Kuibyshev aviation institute on Kola Peninsula. This place is known as Chivruay pass, which is situated in the Lovozero tundra mountain in the very center of the peninsula.
This case is often referred to as an analogue of the death of Dyatlov's group in 1959. However it is not an analogue, but just the same case from the purely formal point of view. Another thing is that it is possible to find some useful patterns of behavior and conditions in both of these cases. Just as in the analysis of any other case of such an accident. It is only necessary to study all cases in sufficient depth, but this is a matter solely for high-level specialists. Only studying the Internet and copy-pasting is not enough here. It is necessary a very large practice of independent study of the area and a long participation in such trips that would make the right conclusions from what was and competently state their opinion. In the title of this site was the phrase: "To understand another person, you must swim in the same waters that drowned them.
What I said in my previous paragraph applies not only to the Chivruay case, but literally to all the cases that are discussed here. Otherwise conversations will constantly go in a circle (which is what happens) and no one understands anything. And do not think that people and science already know everything that happens in life and in nature. That's why there are constant pit stops when teaching.
I hope that judging on this site will be very productive, but some recent events make me doubt it. I see that the moderators and administration are making an effort to get things back on a business track, and I wish them success in doing so. I regret not being able to participate in the discussion, but there are very good reasons for that.
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