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Theories Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: buran on January 03, 2020, 12:46:54 PM

Title: Birds of prey
Post by: buran on January 03, 2020, 12:46:54 PM

Has it already been thought of that the eyes missing from the bodies of some of the victims could be the result of birds scavenging for food?
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: Star man on January 03, 2020, 04:50:03 PM

Has it already been thought of that the eyes missing from the bodies of some of the victims could be the result of birds scavenging for food?

Yes.  Small scavengers is one of considerations for the missing eyes and tongue.

Regards
Star man
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: Nigel Evans on January 04, 2020, 04:28:50 AM
The siberian crow inhabits this area apparently.
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: sarapuk on January 07, 2020, 11:29:40 AM

Has it already been thought of that the eyes missing from the bodies of some of the victims could be the result of birds scavenging for food?

It wasnt just the missing eyes. Note other unusual injuries to that part of the body. And why no missing eyes on all the other bodies  !  ? 
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: Ian Jones on January 14, 2020, 06:13:59 AM
Crows will peck eyes and tongues, especially from lambs and sheep.
Two of the people at the Den were missing eyes.  This is because they died, or were incapacitated, in the daylight, and had not yet frozen.
The idea the Ms Dubinina was tortured, is almost certainly not true. imo. 
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: Zorah on January 14, 2020, 11:05:04 PM
I read someplace recently (in the middle of two Dyatlov books plus endless online research, so can't remember where exactly   grin1), that Yuri K had "damage" to his eyes and mouth that was thought to be clearly due to birds. Crows definitely scavenge when they can.
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: Nigel Evans on January 15, 2020, 12:38:06 AM
I read someplace recently (in the middle of two Dyatlov books plus endless online research, so can't remember where exactly   grin1 ), that Yuri K had "damage" to his eyes and mouth that was thought to be clearly due to birds. Crows definitely scavenge when they can.
It was his nose. You can see it (or the lack of it) in the morgue photos.
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: sarapuk on January 16, 2020, 10:44:44 AM
Crows will peck eyes and tongues, especially from lambs and sheep.
Two of the people at the Den were missing eyes.  This is because they died, or were incapacitated, in the daylight, and had not yet frozen.
The idea the Ms Dubinina was tortured, is almost certainly not true. imo.

But we dont really know what time of day they died, or were incapacitated as you say   !  ?
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: sarapuk on January 16, 2020, 10:45:54 AM
I read someplace recently (in the middle of two Dyatlov books plus endless online research, so can't remember where exactly   grin1), that Yuri K had "damage" to his eyes and mouth that was thought to be clearly due to birds. Crows definitely scavenge when they can.

We need the information that that came from.
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: Ian Jones on January 16, 2020, 01:10:51 PM
Crows will peck eyes and tongues, especially from lambs and sheep.
Two of the people at the Den were missing eyes.  This is because they died, or were incapacitated, in the daylight, and had not yet frozen.
The idea the Ms Dubinina was tortured, is almost certainly not true. imo.

But we dont really know what time of day they died, or were incapacitated as you say   !  ?

sarapuk.   Birds don't feed at night.  So if Crows were the culprits, they would need to find the bodies after dawn, and still unfrozen.
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: sarapuk on January 20, 2020, 10:48:53 AM
Crows will peck eyes and tongues, especially from lambs and sheep.
Two of the people at the Den were missing eyes.  This is because they died, or were incapacitated, in the daylight, and had not yet frozen.
The idea the Ms Dubinina was tortured, is almost certainly not true. imo.

But we dont really know what time of day they died, or were incapacitated as you say   !  ?

sarapuk.   Birds don't feed at night.  So if Crows were the culprits, they would need to find the bodies after dawn, and still unfrozen.

But some birds do feed at night and many birds feed in the hour as it gets dark and before it gets light.
Title: Re: Birds of prey
Post by: Ian Jones on January 21, 2020, 07:25:28 AM
Crows will peck eyes and tongues, especially from lambs and sheep.
Two of the people at the Den were missing eyes.  This is because they died, or were incapacitated, in the daylight, and had not yet frozen.
The idea the Ms Dubinina was tortured, is almost certainly not true. imo.

But we dont really know what time of day they died, or were incapacitated as you say   !  ?

sarapuk.   Birds don't feed at night.  So if Crows were the culprits, they would need to find the bodies after dawn, and still unfrozen.

But some birds do feed at night and many birds feed in the hour as it gets dark and before it gets light.

Corvids feeding in the dark?  I'll have to take your word for that.  But yes, they do feed at dawn and dusk, but I didn't say otherwise.