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The cuts on tent simply doesn't make any sense
Ziljoe:
Hi Per Inge Oestmoen.
There's a problem, or should say many. .
The dyatlov ski tracks and Mansi tracks were seen in various detail. The dyatlov foot prints were also evident. For the amount of work needed to be done and, for attackers to know their foot prints or ski tracks would not be visible 3 weeks later raises questions. I don't think they would carry out an attack without accepting their would be some kind of physical trail. Depending on how you think these attackers did their attack might have some merit to not evidence left. Depends how you propose they were murdered. What are your thoughts on the methods of killing?
GlennM:
To add on, I believe it axiomatic in forensics that everyone leaves a trace of themselves as evidence of where they come from. Everyone takes something when they leave. If there was hostility at the camp at elevation 880, the aggressors both brought and left with evidence in some form. The tracks, or lack thereof falls into this category. Since the DP9 left clear trace evidence of foot and ski tracks, so to would agressors. Only a fundamental attribution error would explain that the prints associated with the DP9 going down slope were in fact those of the aggressor. Teddy claims the boot heel impressions reinforce this belief. This of course begs the question, " If the tracks were the aggressors, where are the tracks of the DP9?" Trace evidence over a winter, let alone six decades usually disappears. But then again, Teddy et.al. find a milk tin in the woods. Perhaps, some day a diary will be found from the alleged killers. As of now, I feel the tragedy was caused and finished by the forces of Nature, not Man. The hikers response to their circumstance, of course is vexing. If they were attacked, the case is even more vexing.
Per Inge Oestmoen:
--- Quote from: GlennM on November 27, 2022, 05:42:50 PM ---
To add on, I believe it axiomatic in forensics that everyone leaves a trace of themselves as evidence of where they come from. Everyone takes something when they leave. If there was hostility at the camp at elevation 880, the aggressors both brought and left with evidence in some form. The tracks, or lack thereof falls into this category. Since the DP9 left clear trace evidence of foot and ski tracks, so to would agressors. Only a fundamental attribution error would explain that the prints associated with the DP9 going down slope were in fact those of the aggressor. Teddy claims the boot heel impressions reinforce this belief. This of course begs the question, " If the tracks were the aggressors, where are the tracks of the DP9?" Trace evidence over a winter, let alone six decades usually disappears. But then again, Teddy et.al. find a milk tin in the woods. Perhaps, some day a diary will be found from the alleged killers. As of now, I feel the tragedy was caused and finished by the forces of Nature, not Man. The hikers response to their circumstance, of course is vexing. If they were attacked, the case is even more vexing.
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--- Quote from: GlennM on November 27, 2022, 05:42:50 PM ---
To add on, I believe it axiomatic in forensics that everyone leaves a trace of themselves as evidence of where they come from. Everyone takes something when they leave. If there was hostility at the camp at elevation 880, the aggressors both brought and left with evidence in some form. The tracks, or lack thereof falls into this category. Since the DP9 left clear trace evidence of foot and ski tracks, so to would agressors. Only a fundamental attribution error would explain that the prints associated with the DP9 going down slope were in fact those of the aggressor. Teddy claims the boot heel impressions reinforce this belief. This of course begs the question, " If the tracks were the aggressors, where are the tracks of the DP9?" Trace evidence over a winter, let alone six decades usually disappears. But then again, Teddy et.al. find a milk tin in the woods. Perhaps, some day a diary will be found from the alleged killers. As of now, I feel the tragedy was caused and finished by the forces of Nature, not Man. The hikers response to their circumstance, of course is vexing. If they were attacked, the case is even more vexing.
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Why this resistance to the reality that all available evidence from the corpses points to murder?
None of the injuries can be attributed to natural causes. Even Igor Dyatlov, the one among the nine who likely died from hypothermia, was found to have clear marks of violence: In all probability he had handcuffs on his feet to ensure that he laid still and froze to death.
By the way, why would present-day Russian authorities state that an avalanche or snow slab is the only acceptable cause, when it has been conclusively proven that it is impossible? They want to hide the reality, which would cause political unrest in 1959 and in 2022. The incessant cover-ups and denials are alone enogh to tell us that they knew very well what happened.
ilahiyol:
The numerous cuts in the tent are evidence of the existence of a struggle. If people were taken out at gunpoint, there would be a single cut in the tent. But there is no human attack, because there is not a single cut in the tent, there are at least 15-20 cuts. In such a case, it can be thought that they were attacked by a bear. But there is no evidence of a bear attack. If he is not human, there is only one answer. Unknown coercive force. There is no other option.
GlennM:
the mass grave of Zolotoya Gora near Chelyabinsk
Perpetuated by Nazi Germans in Operation Barbarossa, not the Soviets yes?
DP9 require a better explanation than Nazi war crimes attributed to Russia.
Keep casting. You might catch a fish.
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