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June 17, 2020, 03:08:34 PM
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Jean Daniel Reuss


Detailed map of the Diatlov Pass and the slope of Kholat Syakhl

https://i.imgur.com/zfFkiSp.jpg   

   


General map showing both Vizhay and Mount Otorten

https://i.imgur.com/nG9JbNE.jpg
 



Jean Daniel Reuss

Rational guidance =

• There is nothing supernatural and mysterious about the injuries suffered by the Dyatlov group. They are all consistent with an attack by a group of professional killers who wanted to take the lives of the nine  [Per Inge Oestmoen].

• Now let us search for answers to: WHO ? WHY ? HOW ?

• The scenario must be consistent with the historical, political and psychological  contexts.

• The solution takes in consideration all known findings.
 

June 18, 2020, 11:12:05 AM
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Monsieur Reuss,

First, Thank you for the maps. Anytime I can wake up and read a map makes for a better day.

Second: The upper, first map you presented shows the den group of 4 close to the tent the the group of 2 by the cedar tree. I had always thought the last group of 4 were about 200 yards away from the cedar towards the natural ravine with the stream area but towards the north east more.

What is your opinion on this? Over the years I m a bit confused because of all the different maps and their placement of the Dyatlov ski tourists.
 

June 19, 2020, 08:08:06 AM
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 I had always thought the last group of 4 were about 200 yards away from the cedar towards the natural ravine with the stream area but towards the north east more.

What is your opinion on this ? Over the years I m a bit confused because of all the different maps and their placement of the Dyatlov ski tourists.

There are several different opinions about the geographical position of the four of the den. These are mainly the opinions of :  Vladimir Borzenkov=WAB - Mihail Sharavin - Aleksey Rakitin - Shura Alekseenkov and Sasha Kan.

I would have liked to place here an aerial image of the cedar's surroundings using Google Earth, but I am not able to do so ... Finally, I prefer the positions of Shura Alekseenkov and Sasha Kan.


           
So personally I think that the errors are small (tolerable) using the following approximate values :

 Cedar :                N61°45'53.20" E59°27'17.80"    647m
The bodies :        N61°45'53.93" E59°27'14.64"    636m

The bodies are located 50 m from the cedar at azimuth 290° (i.e. 50 m westward plus a few meters northward).

( I was unable to find the coordinates of the tent....    -  1 yard = 0.9144 m).


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The visualization of Vazilii Zyadik was useful to me because it allows me to specify the configuration of the area around the four of the den.



So I add two personal convictions:
Given the depths of snow covering the pebbles and also the relief of the terrain which has no vertical cliffs

 a) ••• It is impossible that the bone fractures found on several hikers could be the result of falls or loss of balance.

 b) ••• On the contrary, this ravine is very difficult for tracked vehicles and no vehicle was able to pass through above the den.

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The aerial image is impressive, but be aware of the direction of the north (pointing to the left).


Jean Daniel Reuss

Rational guidance =

• There is nothing supernatural and mysterious about the injuries suffered by the Dyatlov group. They are all consistent with an attack by a group of professional killers who wanted to take the lives of the nine  [Per Inge Oestmoen].

• Now let us search for answers to: WHO ? WHY ? HOW ?

• The scenario must be consistent with the historical, political and psychological  contexts.

• The solution takes in consideration all known findings.
 

July 17, 2020, 03:59:24 AM
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Jean Daniel Reuss



I had forgotten to indicate an excellent and very useful visualization possibility :


 It is a zoomable map with a contour equidistance of 20 meters, realized by WAB.

Factual Information > Materials of 1959 > Maps and charts > Brand spanking new Google map

https://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=40.msg403#msg403
WAB :  April 04, 2018, 01:50:51 PM    --->  Reply #3
  "...Here the reference to great volume of the information for more accurate creation of a picture..."
                                                   " Rout of the Dyatlov team, 1959 "

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        Note :
  • https://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=40.msg6078#msg6078
BottleBrunette : May 28, 2019, 11:04:41 PM ---> Reply #5
     "...I tried to get on the map thing that WAB put up, but, I was denied access."
 
 • I checked that URL back for correct operation in July 2020.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oToltQ7trEa88Urzg74V3LNOE1_RkFvB/view
       OK !


Jean Daniel Reuss

Rational guidance =

• There is nothing supernatural and mysterious about the injuries suffered by the Dyatlov group. They are all consistent with an attack by a group of professional killers who wanted to take the lives of the nine  [Per Inge Oestmoen].

• Now let us search for answers to: WHO ? WHY ? HOW ?

• The scenario must be consistent with the historical, political and psychological  contexts.

• The solution takes in consideration all known findings.
 

May 27, 2022, 07:48:29 AM
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Jean Daniel Reuss


From Wikipedia   : Гибель тургруппы Дятлова
Jean Daniel Reuss

Rational guidance =

• There is nothing supernatural and mysterious about the injuries suffered by the Dyatlov group. They are all consistent with an attack by a group of professional killers who wanted to take the lives of the nine  [Per Inge Oestmoen].

• Now let us search for answers to: WHO ? WHY ? HOW ?

• The scenario must be consistent with the historical, political and psychological  contexts.

• The solution takes in consideration all known findings.
 

May 27, 2022, 01:14:54 PM
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Jean Daniel Reuss



See also the nice map specially designed by WAB .
 - But I do not know how to reproduce it directly - you have to go to :

Dyatlov Pass Forum -> Factual Information -> Materials of 1959 -> Maps and charts -> Brand spanking new Google map
WAB  = Vladimir Borzenkov : April 04, 2018, 10:50:51 PM,    Reply #3
https://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=40.msg403#msg403

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oToltQ7trEa88Urzg74V3LNOE1_RkFvB/view
The same result with :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oToltQ7trEa88Urzg74V3LNOE1_RkFvB/view?usp=sharing
Jean Daniel Reuss

Rational guidance =

• There is nothing supernatural and mysterious about the injuries suffered by the Dyatlov group. They are all consistent with an attack by a group of professional killers who wanted to take the lives of the nine  [Per Inge Oestmoen].

• Now let us search for answers to: WHO ? WHY ? HOW ?

• The scenario must be consistent with the historical, political and psychological  contexts.

• The solution takes in consideration all known findings.