Theories Discussion > Lightning strike / Ball lightning
Carbon 14 is a beta emitter and occurs naturally
Nigel Evans:
--- Quote from: sarapuk on March 08, 2019, 12:09:19 PM ---LEV IVANOV. Competent or incompetent. Genuine or false. Cover up or no cover up. And this is just Lev Ivanov's part in this MYSTERY. Like I have said, he needs his own section in this Forum.
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Quite agree, we need less of "Gravity fluctuation / Teleportation - it's highly technical but possible" (rolls eyes) and more on Lev Ivanov's interview which imo is the key event to be considered.
Nigel Evans:
Aha!
The story so far...
Carbon 14 would be a good explanation for the detected radiation except for (as pointed out by Ryan), it is a weak emitter of beta below the threshold of the detectors.
But according to - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-14 it can be detected if volumes are high enough. The G-M detectors probably operating at 3% efficiency.
If there was a lot of C14 there it could be an explanation for the tests.
So i hear you thinking, how does a peak in the Urals get much higher than normal levels of C14?
Because if a proportion of atmospheric C14 is ionised (somehow) and the peak has the reverse charge then it will collect.
Back to electro magnetism?
Star man:
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on March 14, 2019, 05:15:59 AM ---Aha!
The story so far...
Carbon 14 would be a good explanation for the detected radiation except for (as pointed out by Ryan), it is a weak emitter of beta below the threshold of the detectors.
But according to - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-14 it can be detected if volumes are high enough. The G-M detectors probably operating at 3% efficiency.
If there was a lot of C14 there it could be an explanation for the tests.
So i hear you thinking, how does a peak in the Urals get much higher than normal levels of C14?
Because if a proportion of atmospheric C14 is ionised (somehow) and the peak has the reverse charge then it will collect.
Back to electro magnetism?
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If it was carbon 14 then it may be higher there because there is more cosmic radiation being closer to the pole and cosmic rays convert nitrogen into carbon 14.
Still doesn’t sound like a likely contaminant though.
Nigel Evans:
--- Quote from: Star man on March 14, 2019, 05:27:09 AM ---
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on March 14, 2019, 05:15:59 AM ---Aha!
The story so far...
Carbon 14 would be a good explanation for the detected radiation except for (as pointed out by Ryan), it is a weak emitter of beta below the threshold of the detectors.
But according to - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-14 it can be detected if volumes are high enough. The G-M detectors probably operating at 3% efficiency.
If there was a lot of C14 there it could be an explanation for the tests.
So i hear you thinking, how does a peak in the Urals get much higher than normal levels of C14?
Because if a proportion of atmospheric C14 is ionised (somehow) and the peak has the reverse charge then it will collect.
Back to electro magnetism?
--- End quote ---
If it was carbon 14 then it may be higher there because there is more cosmic radiation being closer to the pole and cosmic rays convert nitrogen into carbon 14.
Still doesn’t sound like a likely contaminant though.
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Well using the 3% efficiency figure you would need 30 times the number of decays of C14 compared to say strontium?
So some possible sources :-During the 50s and 60s the concentration of C14 doubled due to atomic tests most of them atmospheric. 1958 being the second biggest ever - https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nucleartesttally
Lightning produces gamma rays that could possibly imitate cosmic rays? One of the sources for the no2/nitric acid could have been electrical discharge. Semyon's photos are (asserted by me) to be of strong electro magnetic energy.
Snow storms create ionisation via mechanical collision. Some of this could be C14.
Star man:
Carbon 14 could be derived from Historical tests yes, but not from lightning. You need neutrons rather than gamma rays.
Lightning could generate some NO2.
Regards
Star man
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