Theories Discussion > Lightning strike / Ball lightning
The Real Ball Lightning theory
sarapuk:
--- Quote from: KFinn on March 05, 2021, 08:26:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on March 05, 2021, 03:25:25 AM ---With thanks to KFinn :-
https://earth-chronicles.com/anomalies/anomalies-of-the-medviditsa-ridge-russia.html#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20anomalous%20zones%20of%20Russia%2C,it
"Known Medveditskaya ridge and terrible deaths. In 1990, a shepherd allegedly died there. The man flashed up like a match on a flat spot, and burnt to the ground in a matter of minutes. And in August 1993, the amateur-ufologist from Krasnodar Territory disappeared here. He went on scouting, and when they rushed to look for him, then on the spot where they saw the man for the last time, they found a giant funnel. "
.n.b. funnel=crater
Tempalov thought he saw craters at the foot of the west side of Kholat.
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This one got me excited. The Medvedistkaya ridge is considered a big tourist area for UFOlogists and curiosa tourists because of its lengthy history with fire orbs, ball lightning, magnetic anomalies, and even radiation (assumed to be from the ferrous soil and lightning and a scientific conversion that I am still in the process of cementing my understanding of.) The environment in this way is highly similar to what was witnessed at or near Dyatlov Pass around and after the incident. Magnetic anomaly, check. Fire orbs, check. Radiation, check. Weird deaths, check. Ferrous soil, I believe that was a check for Dyatlov, I have to verify, however. Reported sightings of burnt trees, check. To me, this tracks as in a higher plausibility than some of the other theories.
Coincidentally, I also read an excerpt last night that the US Air Force in Colorado was able to make ball lightning in a lab around 2013-2014 (and I found reference that China did in 2012.). (Nigel, somehow I was actually onto something there- they used electrodes in an electrolyte solution to create a ball of plasmoid! How I headed in that direction, I will never figure out, lol!!!!) I was trying to map out where people see ball lightning occur more frequently. You can find maps of sky to ground lightning (where every continent except the main area of Russia,) has at least one large area of very heavy lightning, but nothing in the way of mapping areas with a heavy concentration of ball lightning. So that is my next side project because if we have high concentrations of reported ball lightning that follow an air stream or geologic contours or any such common variable then, well I can geek out on data!!!
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Strange Lights in the Sky described as Fire Orbs. But these Fire Orbs seem to be controlled ! ? Radiation. I doubt there would have been enough Radiation to cause the Geiger Counter to go off the Scale near the Tent, especially weeks after the Event.
sarapuk:
--- Quote from: KFinn on March 05, 2021, 10:24:40 AM ---If this has been posted previously, forgive me. I'm still catching up.
Declassified CIA document of a reported "bright source of light" that sounds like it occurred in the region of the Kursk magnetic anomaly (east of the Urals but similar ferrous soils, similar sightings of "fire orbs" and UFO's for the area.)
If you poke around some of the other documents compiled here, there are several of interest in various ways; I'd never heard of "Sverdlovsk Sickness" or "Ural Sickness" but the Russian government listed "working conditions, weakened immune systems and *weather conditions*" as the top factors.
https://archive.org/details/CIAsX-Files-2015UFORelease/AERIAL%20OBSERVATION%20OF%20INTENSE%20SOURCE%20OF%20LIGHT%20DOC_0005515703
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If true it seems that the Soviet Authorities told the Pilots to not ask questions about what they were seeing. Sounds a bit strange.
KFinn:
--- Quote from: sarapuk on March 05, 2021, 11:18:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: KFinn on March 05, 2021, 08:26:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on March 05, 2021, 03:25:25 AM ---With thanks to KFinn :-
https://earth-chronicles.com/anomalies/anomalies-of-the-medviditsa-ridge-russia.html#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20anomalous%20zones%20of%20Russia%2C,it
"Known Medveditskaya ridge and terrible deaths. In 1990, a shepherd allegedly died there. The man flashed up like a match on a flat spot, and burnt to the ground in a matter of minutes. And in August 1993, the amateur-ufologist from Krasnodar Territory disappeared here. He went on scouting, and when they rushed to look for him, then on the spot where they saw the man for the last time, they found a giant funnel. "
.n.b. funnel=crater
Tempalov thought he saw craters at the foot of the west side of Kholat.
--- End quote ---
This one got me excited. The Medvedistkaya ridge is considered a big tourist area for UFOlogists and curiosa tourists because of its lengthy history with fire orbs, ball lightning, magnetic anomalies, and even radiation (assumed to be from the ferrous soil and lightning and a scientific conversion that I am still in the process of cementing my understanding of.) The environment in this way is highly similar to what was witnessed at or near Dyatlov Pass around and after the incident. Magnetic anomaly, check. Fire orbs, check. Radiation, check. Weird deaths, check. Ferrous soil, I believe that was a check for Dyatlov, I have to verify, however. Reported sightings of burnt trees, check. To me, this tracks as in a higher plausibility than some of the other theories.
Coincidentally, I also read an excerpt last night that the US Air Force in Colorado was able to make ball lightning in a lab around 2013-2014 (and I found reference that China did in 2012.). (Nigel, somehow I was actually onto something there- they used electrodes in an electrolyte solution to create a ball of plasmoid! How I headed in that direction, I will never figure out, lol!!!!) I was trying to map out where people see ball lightning occur more frequently. You can find maps of sky to ground lightning (where every continent except the main area of Russia,) has at least one large area of very heavy lightning, but nothing in the way of mapping areas with a heavy concentration of ball lightning. So that is my next side project because if we have high concentrations of reported ball lightning that follow an air stream or geologic contours or any such common variable then, well I can geek out on data!!!
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Strange Lights in the Sky described as Fire Orbs. But these Fire Orbs seem to be controlled ! ? Radiation. I doubt there would have been enough Radiation to cause the Geiger Counter to go off the Scale near the Tent, especially weeks after the Event.
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You are such a buzz kill, lol!!
Remind me, who was it that saw the Geiger go off the scale at the tent? I know I wrote down the source but I'm not finding it in my notes.
EDIT: I think that came from Ivanov's article? I may have it under I for Ivanov and not R for radiation because my note taking makes complete sense :(
Nigel Evans:
--- Quote from: KFinn on March 05, 2021, 10:24:40 AM ---If this has been posted previously, forgive me. I'm still catching up.
Declassified CIA document of a reported "bright source of light" that sounds like it occurred in the region of the Kursk magnetic anomaly (east of the Urals but similar ferrous soils, similar sightings of "fire orbs" and UFO's for the area.)
If you poke around some of the other documents compiled here, there are several of interest in various ways; I'd never heard of "Sverdlovsk Sickness" or "Ural Sickness" but the Russian government listed "working conditions, weakened immune systems and *weather conditions*" as the top factors.
https://archive.org/details/CIAsX-Files-2015UFORelease/AERIAL%20OBSERVATION%20OF%20INTENSE%20SOURCE%20OF%20LIGHT%20DOC_0005515703
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Good post, I don't think it's been posted previously, a lot to take in there...
Nigel Evans:
--- Quote from: sarapuk on March 05, 2021, 11:08:00 AM ---
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on March 05, 2021, 03:25:25 AM ---With thanks to KFinn :-
https://earth-chronicles.com/anomalies/anomalies-of-the-medviditsa-ridge-russia.html#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20anomalous%20zones%20of%20Russia%2C,it
"Known Medveditskaya ridge and terrible deaths. In 1990, a shepherd allegedly died there. The man flashed up like a match on a flat spot, and burnt to the ground in a matter of minutes. And in August 1993, the amateur-ufologist from Krasnodar Territory disappeared here. He went on scouting, and when they rushed to look for him, then on the spot where they saw the man for the last time, they found a giant funnel. "
.n.b. funnel=crater
Tempalov thought he saw craters at the foot of the west side of Kholat.
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If he thought he saw craters I wonder why he didnt investigate them ! ?
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He was taken off the investigation after a few days?
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