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Teddy:
Please chip in, what I have so far is not enough for me to go on an expedition.

WAB:

--- Quote from: Teddy on May 23, 2024, 09:21:22 AM ---I have received a suggestion for the expedition:

--- Quote ---If possible bring a magnetometer and plot the Earth's magnetic field to discover any anomalies. Strong magnetic fields can affect the human body.
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Measurements have been taken in August 2020 by the legendary researcher Aleksander Aleeksenkov (Shura), who has been on the pass countless times.
https://dyatlovpass.com/appendix-zone
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This has already been written and discussed on several forums, including this one. It seems that it has either been forgotten or deliberately neglected the results and conclusions already obtained.


--- Quote from: Teddy on May 23, 2024, 09:21:22 AM ---The discovery brings credibility to our theory: https://dyatlovpass.com/1079#magnetic

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What “discovery” are we talking about?
The same forum has already written about this “discovery”. Is it not possible even for you to realize what it represents on the physical level and how it affects man, nature and the events being studied?
OK, I will briefly repeat myself, by way of summary and explanation.
1. Unevenness of the magnetic field in different places is quite a common condition in nature. It is especially characteristic of the Urals, where significant deposits of iron ores are unevenly placed. The values of the magnetic field strength can be very different (in numerical value) from what is located nearby. This was observed in the measurements made by Shura.
By the way, it was in a very small area to talk about any “anomaly”.
For example, does a “storm in a glass” have anything to do with meteorology?
2. The results of Shura's measurements are such that even the highest field strength values are about 100,000...800,000 times less than that which can have a noticeable effect on the magnetic compass arrow. As for the effect on a human being, you have to have an increase of several orders of magnitude more. Question: what in this case do you want to get in this expedition?
3. Shura rented a professional magnetometer of a very high level. And he received it practically free of charge. It was a scientific interest of someone from the geological institutes of Ekaternburg. The cost of such a magnetometer is not less than ~ $2000 (>~200,000 rubles) - these are the cheapest copies. The rental cost for a month will be about 5...10%, or will be somewhat cheaper and additionally will require an insurance deposit.
4. There is a serious magnetic anomaly 50 km south, in the area of Mount Chistop. There the iron ores are closer to the surface and have a higher concentration. This was manifested in the fact that radio-electronic equipment failed during thunderstorms (the increase in electric field strength is stimulated by the presence of a powerful magnetic field). But no physiological influence on a person was fixed, though psychological deviations in some people were revealed. In connection with what were such deviations was not revealed. It could be both purely individual reactions to a stressful working regime (military service) and unknown psychological individual reactions to such phenomena. But these were not mass or large in number. These were isolated phenomena. Nothing like this has been observed in the area of Mt. 1079 (Holtchakhl) so far.

By way of summary: it makes sense to consider - is it worth doing such an action and what do you want to get out of it? Although preliminary measurements and their results are already available. What is required is a result at least several orders of magnitude more significant.
Do you think it is realistic to get such a result?

Teddy:

--- Quote from: WAB on May 26, 2024, 11:15:18 AM ---By way of summary: it makes sense to consider - is it worth doing such an action and what do you want to get out of it? Although preliminary measurements and their results are already available. What is required is a result at least several orders of magnitude more significant.
Do you think it is realistic to get such a result?

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I don't know how to move this post in this topic: Magnetic anomaly called "Appendix zone"
Otherwise I would have done it.
The word discovery is used not in the sense of now but ever.
I have no intention to measure the magnetic field. This is done by Aleksander Aleeksenkov (Shura) already.
I am going with a professional metal detector looking for metal objects in the ground that prove activity that hasn't been accounted for till now. My experience in 2022 showed that the amateur class metal detectors did not catch the tin can under the cedar made in 1958. There could be more items. And even if it is hard to prove who left the items under the cedar in 1959 I plan to go to other locations to look for presence of other parties besides the searchers. I have a Google map with suspicions clearings in the forest. We now know exactly where the searchers camps were in the winter and spring of 1959. I believe that there were geologist also prospecting nearby because of the magnetic anomaly that was registered on the maps Igor Pavlov and I provided: https://dyatlovpass.com/1079#magnetic

Bottom line: I don't care what magnetic measurements we can get today. To me it is important that in 1959 the Northern Geological Expedition believed that there were sufficient such magnetic anomalies worth looking for something in the ground. What is important is their presence in the area, not the magnetic anomaly itself.

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