Reply #8
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I think it's much more plausible that this was a young girl who was probably very, very tired as they all were and after spending as much time together with the group as she did, in very close quarters no less, plus the normal mental/physical exhaustion that accompanies such an undertaking, her behavior makes perfect sense to me. I know that if I went hiking in abysmal conditions for weeks with 8 of my friends, I would have moments of aggravation/bitchiness/ and needing my own space. When I look at this story, I try to put the facts into the most explainable terms as possible. Ludya being exhausted and probably, at least temporarily, sick of her companions likely made for her behavior change. And that too, is speculation, but it just makes sense to me, putting myself in her shoes.
I agree with you,
ElizabethHarris , that the hikers were murdered.
But I totally disagree with what you wrote in Reply #8: you are going down a wrong path.
I don't have the same view as you on what the mentality and enthusiasm of young Soviet sportsmen during the Krushchev Thaw period (1953-1964) might have been.
Dyatlov had wisely selected the participants of his group (except Zolotaryov who was imposed).
The 2 girls and 7 boys were well prepared physically, morally and mentally.
They had all passed at least some winter category II and had proven themselves on previous tours
https://dyatlovpass.com/dyatlov-group-members-treksThe ski stages from 28 January to 1 February were short, the nights of rest were long (since at the end of January at 61 degrees north latitude the days are short).
None of the hikers were unusually tired. The hike went normally even if the soft snow slowed down the progression (but category III is mainly a test of resistance and adaptation to the climatic conditions, not of speed).
The hikers could even reserve some of the available time for chatting and taking humorous photos.
(Yuri Yudin, slightly bothered by sciatic pain, voluntarily gave up this ride so as not to risk slowing down the others.
I say "slightly" because apparently he had no difficulty in returning to Vizhay alone).
So in my opinion Dubinina was not physically exhausted, her torment was of a different nature. This is what
BottledBrunette found out thanks to her feminine intuition.
[It just makes sense to me, putting myself in her shoes. --->
I rather think that you fail to put yourself in Dubinina's shoes, simply because :
You did not live in the USSR between 1938 and 1959.
You did not spend your early years in Arkhangelsk: 60° 33' north latitude
You did not receive a rifle bullet in the leg far from an aid station.
You have not participated in 6 hikes organised by the UPI Route Commission, 4 of which were Category II.
You do not understand that to obtain category III was to be part of a kind of moral elite which demonstrates that thanks to its mental strength and its will it (this elite) is able to overcome without weakness material difficulties and physical sufferings.
etc...etc.
Reply #9
You have a serious point here . If I was stuck in a tent with you, I might kick off!!
You have a serious point here ---> So you seem to agree with ElizabethHarris (reply #8)
If I was stuck in a tent with you, I might kick off!! ---> Your wording is really too concise for me.
As I use automatic translators, even with "DeepL.com/en/translator" which brings nuances and variants in the translations, I do not understand what you want to express here.
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