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Murder, execution, accidental death

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MDGross:
Most on this forum are agreed I think that the group was not murdered by the Mansi. And who else would have been following the group and decided to strike on the night of Feb. 1? Angry villagers? Escaped Gulag prisoners? What did the murderers have to gain? Nothing was stolen. I'm not certain how thorough the autopsies were, but nothing was reported about the two women being sexually assaulted.
Maybe the KGB or Soviet military had a reason for wanting to kill the group. But why not march them out of the tent, shoot them, clean up the site, leave a few tantalizing footprints in the snow and then dispose of the bodies. Who in the Soviet Union of 1959 was going to request an investigation or even ask questions? Why the elaborate ruse of marching the group to the tree line below? Then let them build a fire and dig out a now den. It becomes a chess game of complex moves, which would be made even more difficult considering the darkness and brutal weather conditions.
Perhaps they suffered accidental deaths from toxic fumes from an exploded missile. But after taking photos of the explosion and cutting slits in the tent to see what happened, wouldn't they believe that the danger had passed? It's unlikely that none of them knew about how missiles were fueled. How would they know that they were inhaling possible fatal fumes? And if acid rain began falling, why wouldn't they stay inside the tent, which would offer some protection?
If a couple in the group had come to blows and chased each other out of the tent, why not wait for them to wrestle in the snow a bit and then return to the tent? Why would all of them exit the tent with no shoes or coats and walk nearly a mile away from the tent?
Of course, any of these scenarios or others like it might have happened.
But the odds seem to favor a perceived natural disaster about to befall them or wildly irrational thought, perhaps from infrasound, something they ate or drank, or mass hysteria brought on by a person or persons who thought they were all about to die.

Teddy:
A puzzle from hell indeed.

Teddy:

--- Quote from: MDGross on January 12, 2020, 09:18:57 AM ---...nothing was reported about the two women being sexually assaulted.

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That's right

Nigel Evans:
But the odds seem to favor a perceived natural disaster about to befall them or wildly irrational thought, perhaps from infrasound, something they ate or drank, or mass hysteria brought on by a person or persons who thought they were all about to die.Not really, Semyon and Lyudmila seem to have walked one mile from the tent and then suffered a superhuman crushing force. A bit more than misperception involved methinks.

narvikk:

--- Quote from: MDGross on January 12, 2020, 09:18:57 AM ---I'm not certain how thorough the autopsies were, but nothing was reported about the two women being sexually assaulted.

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It is mentioned in the autopsy reports they were not assaulted.


--- Quote from: MDGross on January 12, 2020, 09:18:57 AM ---Of course, any of these scenarios might have happened.

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I don't think so.

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