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Murdered for entering into a sacred place
Star man:
--- Quote from: sarapuk on April 01, 2019, 05:08:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Star man on April 01, 2019, 04:21:44 PM ---A trail leading to the chum was passing 200 feet from where they camped.
Just a thought. If there was a ski trail only 200 feet from the camp, then is it feasible that someone armed with a gun, simply opened fire on the group from 200 feet away? The group then panicked and fled. The rest is history, they died while trying to survive? The gunman never actually approaches the camp.
Regards
Star man
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With the Dyatlov Case it seems anything is possible ! ? What type of trail was it though, there doesnt appear to be anymore information on that. There are plenty of track ways of sorts in the Ural's, and even under snow some are discernible but what was the nature of the said trail when the Dyatlov Group was camped there ! ? We dont know.
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It's strange that they would not have investigated a trail only 200 feet away.
Regards
Star man
sarapuk:
--- Quote from: Star man on April 02, 2019, 01:55:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: sarapuk on April 01, 2019, 05:08:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Star man on April 01, 2019, 04:21:44 PM ---A trail leading to the chum was passing 200 feet from where they camped.
Just a thought. If there was a ski trail only 200 feet from the camp, then is it feasible that someone armed with a gun, simply opened fire on the group from 200 feet away? The group then panicked and fled. The rest is history, they died while trying to survive? The gunman never actually approaches the camp.
Regards
Star man
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With the Dyatlov Case it seems anything is possible ! ? What type of trail was it though, there doesnt appear to be anymore information on that. There are plenty of track ways of sorts in the Ural's, and even under snow some are discernible but what was the nature of the said trail when the Dyatlov Group was camped there ! ? We dont know.
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It's strange that they would not have investigated a trail only 200 feet away.
Regards
Star man
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Maybe it wasnt much of a feature. And maybe they did have a look around but found nothing unusual on said trail so didnt report anything.
sarapuk:
--- Quote from: NkZ on April 01, 2019, 11:28:23 PM ---A bit off topic theory but in continuity with this "native" approach.
What about a herd of reindeers? The area is still populated by the last remaining wild herds : https://www.ipae.uran.ru/sites/default/files/publications/Ранюк%20М.Н./Korytin_2001_2_eng.pdf
The antler on pole could signal the entry of a very special hunting zone (or on the contrary the zone where the herd cannot be hunted), where a "mythical" wild herd roams.
Things happen like this:
+ Herd (200 or so animals) is hunted (by men or animals, or just on the move) from an opposite side (from where the group came or where it is going) of ridge and crosses it running, tramps the tent (do reindeers do that if not frightened? maybe they didn't see it since it was half sunken in snow), leaving it in chaos and with some people with heavy injuries (head, ribs)
+ since the tent is ruined, group decides to go to the tree line (maybe it's morning and they can see the trees very well, wind has calmed and clouds are away) to find shelter
+ they make a "den" for the injured and leave them there. The 5 other start a fire that will be a landmark to come back to, 3 go back to the tent but run low on adrenaline and cannot make it. the 2 at the fire are worried about the wounded and give them their clothes (they think the fire is enough to keep warm, but it isn't and even stops: they die believing the 3 are on their way back)
+ no explanation for radioactivity (even if i like the isotope tracking of sensible personnel by kgs a good one), or "mutilations"
+ why footprints and no sign of the passage of the herd? because the herd was going along the slope towards (or from) the pass where snow was hard: reindeers would not run in a direction with "ravines"
so, no murderers, no military, no ufo, no lightning ball, no lying Mansi ... just a natural (reindeers) compelling force
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Well its an interesting point about the reindeer herd. But surely an herd of reindeer would leave many traces ! ? Especially traces at the Tent.
Puchiko:
--- Quote from: NkZ on April 01, 2019, 11:28:23 PM ---A bit off topic theory but in continuity with this "native" approach.
What about a herd of reindeers? The area is still populated by the last remaining wild herds : https://www.ipae.uran.ru/sites/default/files/publications/Ранюк%20М.Н./Korytin_2001_2_eng.pdf
The antler on pole could signal the entry of a very special hunting zone (or on the contrary the zone where the herd cannot be hunted), where a "mythical" wild herd roams.
Things happen like this:
+ Herd (200 or so animals) is hunted (by men or animals, or just on the move) from an opposite side (from where the group came or where it is going) of ridge and crosses it running, tramps the tent (do reindeers do that if not frightened? maybe they didn't see it since it was half sunken in snow), leaving it in chaos and with some people with heavy injuries (head, ribs)
+ since the tent is ruined, group decides to go to the tree line (maybe it's morning and they can see the trees very well, wind has calmed and clouds are away) to find shelter
+ they make a "den" for the injured and leave them there. The 5 other start a fire that will be a landmark to come back to, 3 go back to the tent but run low on adrenaline and cannot make it. the 2 at the fire are worried about the wounded and give them their clothes (they think the fire is enough to keep warm, but it isn't and even stops: they die believing the 3 are on their way back)
+ no explanation for radioactivity (even if i like the isotope tracking of sensible personnel by kgs a good one), or "mutilations"
+ why footprints and no sign of the passage of the herd? because the herd was going along the slope towards (or from) the pass where snow was hard: reindeers would not run in a direction with "ravines"
so, no murderers, no military, no ufo, no lightning ball, no lying Mansi ... just a natural (reindeers) compelling force
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Nah.
- The tent was rather intact - a few cuts, but still standing, the belongings in order.
- They would have had time to put on some shoes and clothing.
- The injuries of the Ravine4 don't correspond to trampling: little external wounds, but serious internal fractures.
- The injuries of the Ravine4 were really serious, they wouldn't have been able to walk a mile with them.
- The Ravine4 were wearing clothing of the two Yuris, suggesting the two Yuris died first (according to the investigation of hypothermia, though it has been suggested they might have actually suffocated - grey liquid coming from mouth).
Radim:
How many people do you think you need to kill 9 strong and young people by hands?
To force them go somewhere without resistance.
15? 20?
This theory is absolutely "miserable"
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