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General Discussion / Re: The radioactive trace on the Dyatlov Pass
« Last post by Teddy on May 06, 2024, 10:52:30 PM »
Found this article/images in Google :Historic Images Part Number: mjc18542.....sending an image but not a photo...when click on this 'EBAY" will not allow to copied image.

The link is https://www.ebay.com/itm/354924328840
Right click, Save image as



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General Discussion / Re: Where the Ravine 4 lay
« Last post by GlennM on May 06, 2024, 08:44:26 PM »
See the image on Dyatlovpass.com. This is what I am referring to. Discussion is welcome.
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General Discussion / Re: The radioactive trace on the Dyatlov Pass
« Last post by KathleenDSmith1 on May 06, 2024, 05:28:52 PM »
Everyone and Teddy:

Found this article/images in Google :Historic Images Part Number: mjc18542.....sending an image but not a photo...when click on this 'EBAY" will not allow to copied image.   Maybe this part number or if you could the images can help you with "What might had happened"


Thanks
Kathleen Dee Smith

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General Discussion / Re: Where the Ravine 4 lay
« Last post by KathleenDSmith1 on May 06, 2024, 05:09:19 PM »
Everyone and Teddy:

sending an image of where the 4 hikers laid, (found)...



Thanks
Kathleen Dee Smith
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General Discussion / Where the Ravine 4 lay
« Last post by GlennM on May 06, 2024, 05:06:23 PM »
I looked at the current image file of the ravine 4 on Dyatlov Pass.com. It looks like they all just decided to take a nap. If I were to guess, they left the snow den and were following the stream down hill and got too lethargic. Surely, they were not posed.
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General Discussion / Re: Vladimir Askinadzi
« Last post by Ziljoe on May 06, 2024, 10:27:19 AM »
as i understand it, it was only mentioned after the tourists had not returned, it was speculation.
Yuri Yudin said very clearly that denunciations of Dyatlov and his friends were written during his studies. I'm tired of repeating it.

It's important to be factual, Yuri Yudin said lots of things and they changed over time. I'm cautious of people cherry picking statements or hearsay.

How many people had denunciations against them in the Soviet Union at that time? Was it common practice so to speak?. Did people just report other people to the authorities for fun or hate?. Were these said denunciations pre incident or post incident?.

The point is , it doesn't make sense. There are no signs of outsiders, all 9 hikers wouldn't have been involved plus the 10th hiker Zolo.
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General Discussion / Re: Vladimir Askinadzi
« Last post by GlennM on May 05, 2024, 12:59:52 PM »
In my country there is an expression, " haters got to hate." It is easy to heep hate on those who can not defend themselves. They were all dead. It is easy to curry favor in an organization by applauding what ever point of view those who are higher up wish to claim. Everyone was trying to improve their standing in the Party and get a favorable nod from Khrushchev. Therefore, we certainly do not want the West to know our youth are not equal to the rigors of Soviet sport. We absolutely do not want any question that the tourists were disloyal. We absolutely do not want a Stalinist type execution of people suggested. Or, do we?

Therefore, even though the hikers died in a tragic combination of natural occurrences, if it suited someones personal agenda then or now to cast aspersions in order to curry favor, well...haters got to hate.
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General Discussion / Re: Vladimir Askinadzi
« Last post by anna_pycckux on May 05, 2024, 08:40:54 AM »
as i understand it, it was only mentioned after the tourists had not returned, it was speculation.
Yuri Yudin said very clearly that denunciations of Dyatlov and his friends were written during his studies. I'm tired of repeating it.
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General Discussion / Re: Vladimir Askinadzi
« Last post by Ziljoe on May 05, 2024, 08:21:35 AM »
 the chronological order of the allegations ( where and when it came into the maze of facts and myths ) for the tourists looking to defect must be taken into account.

as i understand it, it was only mentioned after the tourists had not returned, it was speculation. Everyone wrote or states their own theories at the time of tragedy, they are much of what we talk about today.

An avalanche, hurricane, murder, rockets, Mansi, weather, defect, etc etc. Searchers , leaders, The UPI and friends, all said speculative things at the time and understandably so, why?, because no one knew what happened and humans speculate. 

It would not make sense to escape the country by going to the Urals on a hike? where would they go? why follow the planned route and take photos and write diaries .

If there were to be deaths ordered, then surely it would be of the organisers of any escape attempt, the KGB would want to infiltrate the inner circle, not chase young tourists through the snow when they were evidently not trying to escape country.

необходимо учитывать хронологический порядок обвинений (где и когда они вошли в лабиринт фактов и мифов) для туристов, желающих сбежать.

насколько я понимаю, об этом упомянули только после того, как туристы не вернулись, это были предположения. Во время трагедии каждый писал или высказывал свои собственные теории, это во многом то, о чем мы говорим сегодня.

Лавина, ураган, убийство, ракеты, манси, погода, дефект и т. д. и т. п. Поисковики, руководители, УПИ и друзья, все говорили в то время умозрительные вещи и понятно, почему?, ведь никто не знал, что произошло, и люди предполагают .

Не имело бы смысла сбежать из страны, отправившись в поход на Урал? куда бы они пошли? зачем следовать запланированному маршруту, фотографировать и писать дневники.

Если бы и был приказ о смерти, то, конечно, это были бы организаторы любой попытки побега, КГБ захотело бы проникнуть в ближайшее окружение, а не гоняться за молодыми туристами по снегу, когда они явно не пытаются бежать из страны.

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General Discussion / Re: Vladimir Askinadzi
« Last post by anna_pycckux on May 05, 2024, 06:31:06 AM »
One consequence would be to make a public example of their disloyalty for reasons of solidarity.
1. Логичнее было бы скрыть нелояльность туристов, что и было сделано. В стране, движущейся к коммунизму, не должно быть нелояльных людей.
2. Массового выхода в раздетом виде из палатки не было. Это фальшивый штамп, ничем не подтвержденный.

1. It would be more logical to hide the disloyalty of tourists, which was done. There should be no disloyal people in a country moving towards communism.
2. There was no mass naked exit from the tent. This is a false stamp, not confirmed by anything.
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