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General Discussion / Re: Tent
« Last post by Ziljoe on Today at 09:30:26 PM »
Some of the holes that you circle in white could be the patched holes that the diary refers to I suppose.

It does seem a bit odd that none of the testimonies mention finding the tent in shreds like we see here. The tent looks like it has fixed ground sheet, as in the ground sheet is joined to the sides but I could be wrong. I think it was uncommon.

If it was a fixed ground sheet it would make sense for the searcher's to rip/cut it open from the top side but it's not recorded anywhere that this is what was done. This might be in fear of someone getting into trouble for not doing things correctly but it is a chaotic mess of holes, rips and cuts.

There seems to be too many random cuts for a quick internal exit and ....too many random cuts for external entry by the searcher's.

Having said that, I am assuming that some of the photos show the tent being stapled or sewn back together to aid the investigation in to how the tent looked when in one piece.

The first searcher got his hands in some how to acces the contents and find no bodies whilst taking some of the belongings. Just more annoying facts that we can't be sure of.
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General Discussion / Re: Tent
« Last post by KathleenDSmith1 on Today at 07:22:40 PM »
Everyone and Teddy:


I'm not talking about anything about "Sexual",  what I'm talking about was the "Sewing".... difference of "Tent being "Cut"....
sending images











Thanks
Kathleen Dee Smith
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General Discussion / Re: Tent
« Last post by Axelrod on Today at 10:39:45 AM »
Before addrssing the business of who got in a snit about sewing a patch on a tent, it would be better to know who wrote the diary.
maybe it was Dyatlov's diary. In old inet materials (hibinafiles) it belongs to Dyatlov.

So. why prosecutors decided that it is Kolmogorova's diary?
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General Discussion / Re: Tent
« Last post by GlennM on April 26, 2024, 04:22:15 PM »
Before addrssing the business of who got in a snit about sewing a patch on a tent, it would be better to know who wrote the diary. It can not be that hard. There are handwriting samples for all.

Next, this inquiry about patching the tent is leading and of no significant intrinsic value.. I think the sub rosa intent is to argue for some sort of protest and revolt at a critical juncture. 

On the whole, I get the feeling that gender equality was an issue on the hike with the younger generation, but not Zolo who was past that nonsense.. In a mixed group like the DP9, the undercurrent of sexual tension produces frustration which begets aggression.  To sublimate the sexual urges, there is much intellectualization and petty power plays evidenced in the diaries. For example, lets go see a romantic movie as many times as we can and then have an " adult" conversation about love and romance etc. It is not the same between the sexes. but the charade must constantly be reinforced by making rules and obeying them. Someone will likely become the altruistic punisher in the group. There are dozens of names we give to that sort of person, most are not nice.

Then,  this is thread is leading to the idea that it wasn't weather, assasins nor critters that precipitated their leaving the tent for the woods. It was, instead a " hissy fit" leading one or more people to go storming off out of the tent poorly dressed to pout. Eventually they all left the tent and collected themselves as a group. They did not go back. We know what followed. If true, it was easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle than a needle through a canvas patch.
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General Discussion / Re: Tent
« Last post by Arjan on April 26, 2024, 10:49:08 AM »
Due to 1. aging, and/or 2. bad/wet storage, and/or 3. friction/tension during handeling, the seams of the tent may/might have partly warn out.

Personally I have thought that these holes had been caused by wear of an older tent, like wear/aging of clothing the seams make come loose.

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General Discussion / Re: Avalanche theory
« Last post by RMK on April 26, 2024, 08:16:11 AM »

Version No. 9 – connecting rod bear. It was suggested by the writer Victor Myasnikov, a character in the TAU film “Pulp Fiction 2.”
Several other people adhere to this version. We must pay tribute - this is a very real hypothesis, without any admixture of mysticism.
You're referring here to a шатун--a bear that has awoken from dormancy before the arrival of spring--right?
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General Discussion / Re: Avalanche theory
« Last post by Axelrod on April 26, 2024, 07:06:40 AM »
My relative Axelrod Moses (Moisey) Abramovich retired in the fall of 1997 and died six months later. Before his death, he thought a lot about this incident and invited directors from local television to his home. In the middle of the film, the following phrase was heard:

First we offer a version completely devoid of mysticism:  version of a participant in the search for Dyatlovites, a person,
 who has been dealing with this topic for more than 30 years, Moisei Abramovich Axelrod,  one of the first in the Urals to receive the title of Master of Sports in Tourism.

Version No. 1. Indeed, the hypothesis very convincingly proves all the damage. This version has been suffered for years, and, according to Moisei Abramovich, it covers everything. He said this: “I need to convey this guess to people, while I’m alive.”

Moses died on March 1, 1998, and another relative of mine became a Jehovah's Witness on May 10, 1998.

I am not yet a “Jehovah's Witness” or an “avalanche witness,” which I have not seen myself.
Their words are not my words!

Also there is is Version #9 in the film.

Version No. 9 – connecting rod bear. It was suggested by the writer Victor Myasnikov, a character in the TAU film “Pulp Fiction 2.”
Several other people adhere to this version. We must pay tribute - this is a very real hypothesis, without any admixture of mysticism.

In total, there are 2 realistic versions in the film, and the rest versions are some kind of fantastic.

In my opinion, the avalanche event also is a matter of imagination there. If you use more imagination for yourself, you can find the participation of a bear. Because the other versions are generally fantastic, as you mean.
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General Discussion / Re: Avalanche theory
« Last post by GlennM on April 25, 2024, 02:13:06 PM »
Teddy, this is most generous of you. It tells me that you are fair minded and considerate. A lesser person would have said, " I wrote the book on this". If opinions matter, you are certainly allowing divergent points of view to be put forward. Thanks.
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General Discussion / Re: Avalanche theory
« Last post by Teddy on April 25, 2024, 02:13:38 AM »
The poll was set up to run -1 day, I don't even know how's that possible.
I extended it to 100 days. Please vote if you haven't.
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General Discussion / Re: Avalanche theory
« Last post by GlennM on April 23, 2024, 01:59:09 PM »
Potential suffocation, not weight of snow is why they left. They could one way or another get out of the tent, but not reenter.
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