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February 04, 2019, 02:03:05 AM
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Prosecutor of Sverdlovsk Andrey Kuryakov is pretty much repeating what he already said on 1 Feb 2019
Out of 75 theories the prosecutor cuts off any foul play leaving only 3 theories: avalanche, snowslab and a hurricane.

Regarding Popov's testimony dated 6.02 - the main reason for the confusion with the date on the cover of Dyatlov case (dating 6 of February - a week before Dyatlov group was even due back in Vizhay) the Prosecutor of Sverdlovsk Andrey Kuryakov suggested that it could have come from another unrelated case, because there is no reference to Dyatlov case in the testimony. This is setting a very bad precedent. This means all the testimonies even if they refer to tourists if they don't directly mention the name of Dyatlov, they might be from a different case.

The investigation is not popular. It servers only Buyanov - the ambassador of the avalanche/snowslab theory.
 

February 04, 2019, 03:21:59 AM
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I'm not surprised given the stated areas of expertise.
Could be looking in the wrong place perhaps...
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February 04, 2019, 04:21:37 AM
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Out of 75 theories the prosecutor cuts off any foul play leaving only 3 theories: avalanche, snowslab and a hurricane.

I thought the high wind theory was considered and quickly ruled out by the initial investigation. An avalanche contradicts the evidence. And there was no snow slab found on the tent, just some loose snow that likely blew onto it. Plus people have been there since then in the winter, walked around, measured the slope, and even pitched their own tents. There's no indication that an avalanche or snow slide would occur where the tent was approximately located.

Of the 75 (I didn't know it was near that many), seems like they picked three of the less likely theories.
 

February 04, 2019, 05:49:07 AM
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If you rule out 73 out of  75.....    it will not be popular with the vast majority no matter what 3 he has chosen.  Why am I not surprised its the same shitshow today as it was in 1959?
All theories are flawed....... Get Behind Me Satan !!!
 

February 04, 2019, 05:56:26 AM
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Out of 75 theories the prosecutor cuts off any foul play leaving only 3 theories: avalanche, snowslab and a hurricane.

I thought the high wind theory was considered and quickly ruled out by the initial investigation. An avalanche contradicts the evidence. And there was no snow slab found on the tent, just some loose snow that likely blew onto it. Plus people have been there since then in the winter, walked around, measured the slope, and even pitched their own tents. There's no indication that an avalanche or snow slide would occur where the tent was approximately located.

Of the 75 (I didn't know it was near that many), seems like they picked three of the less likely theories.

Or the three least likely!

Avalanche or snowslab :-

1. a torch was found resting on the outside of the tent?
2. why not return for more clothing/footwear?
3. ski poles not disturbed as per photographs?

Hurricane strength wind :-

1. a torch was found resting on the outside of the tent?
2. they walked down the mountain but couldn't crawl back to the tent for more clothing/footwear?
 

February 04, 2019, 06:00:16 AM
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Welp, the slide didn't 'have' to be directly over the tent or on that exactly portion of the slope in order to scare the living daylights out of them.  There are other areas of the slope that have an increased slope compared to where the tent was placed.
All theories are flawed....... Get Behind Me Satan !!!
 

February 04, 2019, 08:46:40 AM
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So. Is that the big reveal!   quiet1

It conjures images of the movie clip from “Naked Gun” with Leslie Neilson standing in front of the fire works factory that was in flames  with multiple explosions and workers running for their lives, Neilson is telling the gathering crowd to “move along “ - “there’s nothing to see here “
 

February 04, 2019, 11:16:24 AM
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It looks like modern day Russia didn't change that much compared to the secretive Sowjet regime. This is an attempt of silencing people and burying the case once and for all.

These busybodies will come back and tell us that it was an avalanche. They could take some soil or ground samples instead. But they won't. Useless Russian authorities like in the old days.

Here are the inclinations of the Dead Mountain. They don't even have to go there.

average inclination behind the tent on DM: 26 %. (no snow masses are accumulated there because of the wind, in springtime snow slabs are definitively possible, but not in the beginning of February)
average inclination to the treeline: 16 %
average inclination on the ravine and cedar slope: 19%

I don't expect any avalanche to go down there. And no expert will.

gravitational accelaration as expected. 9.81 m/s2.

They should measure the magnetic fied and radiation. They won't.

This is a useless investigation. I expect these «experts» to tell us that the Dead Mountain doesn't exist at all.

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February 05, 2019, 07:05:27 AM
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It looks like modern day Russia didn't change that much compared to the secretive Sowjet regime. This is an attempt of silencing people and burying the case once and for all.

These busybodies will come back and tell us that it was an avalanche. They could take some soil or ground samples instead. But they won't. Useless Russian authorities like in the old days.

Well, a real soviet investigator would not have disgraced himself by admitting so much ignorance as to allow three alternatives grin1

Anyone knows why they really pull this off now? Who is behind this and what is his goal? I do not quite get it...
 

February 05, 2019, 03:01:06 PM
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INTERFAX  ; 

Prosecutors plan to complete Dyatlov investigation by fall
YEKATERINBUR. Feb 4 (Interfax) - Prosecutors are studying three main theories of the deaths of the Dyatlov group: an avalanche, a snow plank, and a storm, Andrei Kuryakov, the head of the department for supervision of observance of federal legislation of the Sverdlovsk region's prosecutor's office, said at a press conference in Yekaterinburg on Monday.

"The tentative deadline is August. This is connected to forensic tests," he said.

The results are expected to be published in August, as well, he said.

A group of tourists led by Igor Dyatlov died on a pass in the Northern Urals early on February 2, 1959. Initially, there were ten people in the group, but Yury Yudin left due to a pain in his foot after they had walked about half of the route. He was the only survivor. Two young women, six young men, and one war veteran, Semyon Zolotaryov, died.

Dyatlov was a fifth-year student of the radiotechnical department of the Urals Polytechnic Institute. The others, except for Zolotaryov, were also students or graduates of that institute. Dyatlov was the only person who had experience hiking in winter. The hike was in the top difficulty category: the tourists planned to cover 300 kilometers on skis and climb two mountains, Otorten and Oika-Chakur.

Mount Otorten was the end point. The word means "don't go there" in Mansi, the language of the indigenous population of the area.

The search for the tourists began only on February 16. On the pass, rescuers found their tent, which was cut and torn. The bodies of two students, who were wearing nothing but their underwear, were found later. Dyatlov's body was found a little higher on the pass. He did not have his shoes or outerwear on. The next body the rescuers found was that of Zinaida Kolmogorova, which was buried in the snow. Rustem Slobodin's body was found later. He had warm clothes on. All five had frozen to death.

When the snow melted, the bodies of Zolotaryov, Nikolai Tibo-Brinyol, Alexander Kolevatov, and Lyudmila Dubinina were found in a stream. Kolevatov had frozen to death, while the others had died of bodily trauma.

There are various theories about what caused the tragedy.

The pass where the group died is now called the Dyatlov Pass.

"We have begun the key stage: the establishment of the real cause of the tourists' death. Out of 75 theories, we intend to probe three as the most probable ones, and they are all associated with natural phenomena, one way or another," Russian Prosecutor General's Office spokesman Kurennoi said on Efir, the agency's video channel, on February 2.

"Foul play is fully ruled out. There is no evidence of it, even indirect evidence," he said.

"It could have been an avalanche, a so-called snow plank, or a storm," he said. "Winds, by the way, are very strong in that area, and locals and indigenous people know about that," Kurennoi said.

A group of investigators is expected to fly to the site in March to determine the exact location of the tent, the gradient of the slope, the depth of the snow, and other information and perform forensic tests, he said.

"Finally, another forensic test, the final one, will be ordered after that visit, a special medical evaluation, which should finally determine the causes of the injuries to the victims' bodies," Kurennoi said.
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February 05, 2019, 04:11:53 PM
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INTERFAX  ; 

Prosecutors plan to complete Dyatlov investigation by fall
YEKATERINBUR. Feb 4 (Interfax) - Prosecutors are studying three main theories of the deaths of the Dyatlov group: an avalanche, a snow plank, and a storm, Andrei Kuryakov, the head of the department for supervision of observance of federal legislation of the Sverdlovsk region's prosecutor's office, said at a press conference in Yekaterinburg on Monday.

"The tentative deadline is August. This is connected to forensic tests," he said.

The results are expected to be published in August, as well, he said.

A group of tourists led by Igor Dyatlov died on a pass in the Northern Urals early on February 2, 1959. Initially, there were ten people in the group, but Yury Yudin left due to a pain in his foot after they had walked about half of the route. He was the only survivor. Two young women, six young men, and one war veteran, Semyon Zolotaryov, died.

Dyatlov was a fifth-year student of the radiotechnical department of the Urals Polytechnic Institute. The others, except for Zolotaryov, were also students or graduates of that institute. Dyatlov was the only person who had experience hiking in winter. The hike was in the top difficulty category: the tourists planned to cover 300 kilometers on skis and climb two mountains, Otorten and Oika-Chakur.

Mount Otorten was the end point. The word means "don't go there" in Mansi, the language of the indigenous population of the area.

The search for the tourists began only on February 16. On the pass, rescuers found their tent, which was cut and torn. The bodies of two students, who were wearing nothing but their underwear, were found later. Dyatlov's body was found a little higher on the pass. He did not have his shoes or outerwear on. The next body the rescuers found was that of Zinaida Kolmogorova, which was buried in the snow. Rustem Slobodin's body was found later. He had warm clothes on. All five had frozen to death.

When the snow melted, the bodies of Zolotaryov, Nikolai Tibo-Brinyol, Alexander Kolevatov, and Lyudmila Dubinina were found in a stream. Kolevatov had frozen to death, while the others had died of bodily trauma.

There are various theories about what caused the tragedy.

The pass where the group died is now called the Dyatlov Pass.

"We have begun the key stage: the establishment of the real cause of the tourists' death. Out of 75 theories, we intend to probe three as the most probable ones, and they are all associated with natural phenomena, one way or another," Russian Prosecutor General's Office spokesman Kurennoi said on Efir, the agency's video channel, on February 2.

"Foul play is fully ruled out. There is no evidence of it, even indirect evidence," he said.

"It could have been an avalanche, a so-called snow plank, or a storm," he said. "Winds, by the way, are very strong in that area, and locals and indigenous people know about that," Kurennoi said.

A group of investigators is expected to fly to the site in March to determine the exact location of the tent, the gradient of the slope, the depth of the snow, and other information and perform forensic tests, he said.

"Finally, another forensic test, the final one, will be ordered after that visit, a special medical evaluation, which should finally determine the causes of the injuries to the victims' bodies," Kurennoi said.

Surely they should be able to rule out high winds and a storm too!

 I am no expert on survival in stormy, blizzardy arctic, sub zero conditions but going out of my tent in my underwear and then for a 1.5 km stroll down the side of the mountain wouldn't be at the top of my survival plan.

Maybe an avalanche or at least a threat of an avalanche should be given a little more consideration?

Maybe a combination of theories should be tested together:

An individual from an advanced alien race (that resembles a Yeti), just happens to be passing the planet earth and decides to take a closer look.  As he decends through the atmosphere, his ship is caught in a severe storm just above Kholat Syakhl and infrasound waves caused by a Karen vortex resonates against the Plinky sponk valve of his spacecraft causing an overload and a backfire in the shape of giant orange orb of ball lightning and he is force to land hard.  The impact Shifts the snow pack and causes a snow slide.  The alien leaving his spaceship assesses the damage which is superficial. The alien who sees in the infrared spectrum spots 9 heat signatures coming from a nearbye fabric habitat and approaches thinking that he may be able to pick up some specimens to take home with him.  Perched on his shoulder the alien has some kind of weapon that generates momentum-force impulses that he can target via his helmet.  As he approaches the habitat, the being inside make a run for it and he follows them down the slope.  The alien does not walk down the slope, he uses a jet pack because it is easier.  He targets 3 of the group with his momentum-force ray in a ravine and takes them down.

He then returns to the slope to finds the others, but his weapon had malfunctioned in the cold air so he is forced to engage them with hand to hand combat.  The three manage to defeat the alien so in a last act of revenge the alien activates the explosive device on his wrist band and they are all blown across the slope.

A day or so later the authorities arrive and find the scene including the alien space craft and take it back to area 42 and decide to fabricate a story about some storm that caused it all.

 I think they should consider that one IMO.
 

February 06, 2019, 01:44:09 AM
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An individual from an advanced alien race (that resembles a Yeti), just happens to be passing the planet earth and decides to take a closer look.  As he decends through the atmosphere, his ship is caught in a severe storm just above Kholat Syakhl and infrasound waves caused by a Karen vortex resonates against the Plinky sponk valve of his spacecraft causing an overload and a backfire in the shape of giant orange orb of ball lightning and he is force to land hard.  The impact Shifts the snow pack and causes a snow slide.  The alien leaving his spaceship assesses the damage which is superficial. The alien who sees in the infrared spectrum spots 9 heat signatures coming from a nearbye fabric habitat and approaches thinking that he may be able to pick up some specimens to take home with him.  Perched on his shoulder the alien has some kind of weapon that generates momentum-force impulses that he can target via his helmet.  As he approaches the habitat, the being inside make a run for it and he follows them down the slope.  The alien does not walk down the slope, he uses a jet pack because it is easier.  He targets 3 of the group with his momentum-force ray in a ravine and takes them down.

He then returns to the slope to finds the others, but his weapon had malfunctioned in the cold air so he is forced to engage them with hand to hand combat.  The three manage to defeat the alien so in a last act of revenge the alien activates the explosive device on his wrist band and they are all blown across the slope.

A day or so later the authorities arrive and find the scene including the alien space craft and take it back to area 42 and decide to fabricate a story about some storm that caused it all.

Wow! That's the theory of everything. They should definitively consider it. dance1
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February 06, 2019, 04:01:12 AM
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Quote from: Star man
An individual from an advanced alien race (that resembles a Yeti), just happens to be passing the planet earth and decides to take a closer look.  As he decends through the atmosphere, his ship is caught in a severe storm just above Kholat Syakhl and infrasound waves caused by a Karen vortex resonates against the Plinky sponk valve of his spacecraft causing an overload and a backfire in the shape of giant orange orb of ball lightning and he is force to land hard.  The impact Shifts the snow pack and causes a snow slide.  The alien leaving his spaceship assesses the damage which is superficial. The alien who sees in the infrared spectrum spots 9 heat signatures coming from a nearbye fabric habitat and approaches thinking that he may be able to pick up some specimens to take home with him.  Perched on his shoulder the alien has some kind of weapon that generates momentum-force impulses that he can target via his helmet.  As he approaches the habitat, the being inside make a run for it and he follows them down the slope.  The alien does not walk down the slope, he uses a jet pack because it is easier.  He targets 3 of the group with his momentum-force ray in a ravine and takes them down.

He then returns to the slope to finds the others, but his weapon had malfunctioned in the cold air so he is forced to engage them with hand to hand combat.  The three manage to defeat the alien so in a last act of revenge the alien activates the explosive device on his wrist band and they are all blown across the slope.

A day or so later the authorities arrive and find the scene including the alien space craft and take it back to area 42 and decide to fabricate a story about some storm that caused it all.

Wow! That's the theory of everything. They should definitively consider it. dance1
More probable than an avalanche!
 

February 06, 2019, 04:23:41 AM
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Well they should be able to eliminate a storm as the cause?  Maybe someone should suggest that they check the weather forecast archives for 1st Feb 1959?  That would be a good place to start their investigation. lol2
 

February 06, 2019, 05:41:14 AM
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Well they should be able to eliminate a storm as the cause?  Maybe someone should suggest that they check the weather forecast archives for 1st Feb 1959?  That would be a good place to start their investigation. lol2
I think that's more problematic, there wasn't a local weather station. All the distant ones reported light winds but the local mansi people stated that there had been very high winds as supported by the photographs.
 

February 06, 2019, 07:07:39 AM
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February 06, 2019, 12:07:44 PM
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INTERFAX  ; 

Prosecutors plan to complete Dyatlov investigation by fall
YEKATERINBUR. Feb 4 (Interfax) - Prosecutors are studying three main theories of the deaths of the Dyatlov group: an avalanche, a snow plank, and a storm, Andrei Kuryakov, the head of the department for supervision of observance of federal legislation of the Sverdlovsk region's prosecutor's office, said at a press conference in Yekaterinburg on Monday.

"The tentative deadline is August. This is connected to forensic tests," he said.

The results are expected to be published in August, as well, he said.

A group of tourists led by Igor Dyatlov died on a pass in the Northern Urals early on February 2, 1959. Initially, there were ten people in the group, but Yury Yudin left due to a pain in his foot after they had walked about half of the route. He was the only survivor. Two young women, six young men, and one war veteran, Semyon Zolotaryov, died.

Dyatlov was a fifth-year student of the radiotechnical department of the Urals Polytechnic Institute. The others, except for Zolotaryov, were also students or graduates of that institute. Dyatlov was the only person who had experience hiking in winter. The hike was in the top difficulty category: the tourists planned to cover 300 kilometers on skis and climb two mountains, Otorten and Oika-Chakur.

Mount Otorten was the end point. The word means "don't go there" in Mansi, the language of the indigenous population of the area.

The search for the tourists began only on February 16. On the pass, rescuers found their tent, which was cut and torn. The bodies of two students, who were wearing nothing but their underwear, were found later. Dyatlov's body was found a little higher on the pass. He did not have his shoes or outerwear on. The next body the rescuers found was that of Zinaida Kolmogorova, which was buried in the snow. Rustem Slobodin's body was found later. He had warm clothes on. All five had frozen to death.

When the snow melted, the bodies of Zolotaryov, Nikolai Tibo-Brinyol, Alexander Kolevatov, and Lyudmila Dubinina were found in a stream. Kolevatov had frozen to death, while the others had died of bodily trauma.

There are various theories about what caused the tragedy.

The pass where the group died is now called the Dyatlov Pass.

"We have begun the key stage: the establishment of the real cause of the tourists' death. Out of 75 theories, we intend to probe three as the most probable ones, and they are all associated with natural phenomena, one way or another," Russian Prosecutor General's Office spokesman Kurennoi said on Efir, the agency's video channel, on February 2.

"Foul play is fully ruled out. There is no evidence of it, even indirect evidence," he said.

"It could have been an avalanche, a so-called snow plank, or a storm," he said. "Winds, by the way, are very strong in that area, and locals and indigenous people know about that," Kurennoi said.

A group of investigators is expected to fly to the site in March to determine the exact location of the tent, the gradient of the slope, the depth of the snow, and other information and perform forensic tests, he said.

"Finally, another forensic test, the final one, will be ordered after that visit, a special medical evaluation, which should finally determine the causes of the injuries to the victims' bodies," Kurennoi said.

Surely they should be able to rule out high winds and a storm too!

 I am no expert on survival in stormy, blizzardy arctic, sub zero conditions but going out of my tent in my underwear and then for a 1.5 km stroll down the side of the mountain wouldn't be at the top of my survival plan.

Maybe an avalanche or at least a threat of an avalanche should be given a little more consideration?

Maybe a combination of theories should be tested together:

An individual from an advanced alien race (that resembles a Yeti), just happens to be passing the planet earth and decides to take a closer look.  As he decends through the atmosphere, his ship is caught in a severe storm just above Kholat Syakhl and infrasound waves caused by a Karen vortex resonates against the Plinky sponk valve of his spacecraft causing an overload and a backfire in the shape of giant orange orb of ball lightning and he is force to land hard.  The impact Shifts the snow pack and causes a snow slide.  The alien leaving his spaceship assesses the damage which is superficial. The alien who sees in the infrared spectrum spots 9 heat signatures coming from a nearbye fabric habitat and approaches thinking that he may be able to pick up some specimens to take home with him.  Perched on his shoulder the alien has some kind of weapon that generates momentum-force impulses that he can target via his helmet.  As he approaches the habitat, the being inside make a run for it and he follows them down the slope.  The alien does not walk down the slope, he uses a jet pack because it is easier.  He targets 3 of the group with his momentum-force ray in a ravine and takes them down.

He then returns to the slope to finds the others, but his weapon had malfunctioned in the cold air so he is forced to engage them with hand to hand combat.  The three manage to defeat the alien so in a last act of revenge the alien activates the explosive device on his wrist band and they are all blown across the slope.

A day or so later the authorities arrive and find the scene including the alien space craft and take it back to area 42 and decide to fabricate a story about some storm that caused it all.

 I think they should consider that one IMO.

Iam afraid it looks like the Authorities are ruling out ALIENS.  After all can you imagine the PANIC and HYSTERIA in the Worlds Media outlets, if it was proven to be some kind of ALIEN INTERVENTION. Not to mention the SECURITY RISKS involved ETC ETC ETC ETC. However we shall see.
DB
 

February 06, 2019, 12:13:01 PM
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Well they should be able to eliminate a storm as the cause?  Maybe someone should suggest that they check the weather forecast archives for 1st Feb 1959?  That would be a good place to start their investigation. lol2
I think that's more problematic, there wasn't a local weather station. All the distant ones reported light winds but the local mansi people stated that there had been very high winds as supported by the photographs.

Its not looking good for the NEW INVESTIGATION is it. Already obvious inconsistences are appearing.  The new investigation will have to explain why this that and the other wasnt done at the time of the original search and rescue and investigation.
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February 06, 2019, 08:47:51 PM
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"Out of 75 theories, we intend to probe three as the most probable ones, and they are all associated with natural phenomena, one way or another," Russian Prosecutor General's Office spokesman Kurennoi said on Efir, the agency's video channel, on February 2.
"Foul play is fully ruled out. There is no evidence of it, even indirect evidence," he said.
"It could have been an avalanche, a so-called snow plank, or a storm," he said. "Winds, by the way, are very strong in that area, and locals and indigenous people know about that," Kurennoi said.
A group of investigators is expected to fly to the site in March to determine the exact location of the tent, the gradient of the slope, the depth of the snow, and other information and perform forensic tests, he said.
"Finally, another forensic test, the final one, will be ordered after that visit, a special medical evaluation, which should finally determine the causes of the injuries to the victims' bodies," Kurennoi said.

The 3 theories that are selected seem suspicious to me. Why those 3? I'm wondering if it's only a pretext, the real goal of the investigation being the access to the bodies. Maybe they needed consentment from the families or something similar to dig out the corpses, and maybe the official investigation gives them the legal right to inspect the bones the way they want.

 
 

February 07, 2019, 12:35:07 AM
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I'm wondering if it's only a pretext, 
That would be my guess.
 

February 07, 2019, 01:24:22 PM
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"Out of 75 theories, we intend to probe three as the most probable ones, and they are all associated with natural phenomena, one way or another," Russian Prosecutor General's Office spokesman Kurennoi said on Efir, the agency's video channel, on February 2.
"Foul play is fully ruled out. There is no evidence of it, even indirect evidence," he said.
"It could have been an avalanche, a so-called snow plank, or a storm," he said. "Winds, by the way, are very strong in that area, and locals and indigenous people know about that," Kurennoi said.
A group of investigators is expected to fly to the site in March to determine the exact location of the tent, the gradient of the slope, the depth of the snow, and other information and perform forensic tests, he said.
"Finally, another forensic test, the final one, will be ordered after that visit, a special medical evaluation, which should finally determine the causes of the injuries to the victims' bodies," Kurennoi said.

The 3 theories that are selected seem suspicious to me. Why those 3? I'm wondering if it's only a pretext, the real goal of the investigation being the access to the bodies. Maybe they needed consentment from the families or something similar to dig out the corpses, and maybe the official investigation gives them the legal right to inspect the bones the way they want.

 


What seems suspicious is that an Official Investigation has already decided that only 3 Theories are worth investigating, without giving us more information on how they reached that decision  !  ? 
DB
 

February 07, 2019, 10:52:26 PM
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What seems suspicious is that an Official Investigation has already decided that only 3 Theories are worth investigating, without giving us more information on how they reached that decision  !  ?

Yeah, it would be nice to know how they were able to rule out the other 72 theories when the public is unable to do so, including several authors in the past decade (each supporting their own favored theory).
 

February 08, 2019, 02:41:05 AM
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What seems suspicious is that an Official Investigation has already decided that only 3 Theories are worth investigating, without giving us more information on how they reached that decision  !  ?

Yeah, it would be nice to know how they were able to rule out the other 72 theories when the public is unable to do so, including several authors in the past decade (each supporting their own favored theory).
I have the exact opposite issue - each of the 75 theories, including natural phenomena ones, can be ruled out on some grounds... but where does that leave us :) ?  lol1 lol1
 

February 08, 2019, 03:42:30 AM
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What seems suspicious is that an Official Investigation has already decided that only 3 Theories are worth investigating, without giving us more information on how they reached that decision  !  ?

Yeah, it would be nice to know how they were able to rule out the other 72 theories when the public is unable to do so, including several authors in the past decade (each supporting their own favored theory).
I have the exact opposite issue - each of the 75 theories, including natural phenomena ones, can be ruled out on some grounds... but where does that leave us :) ?  lol1 lol1
Nitrogen dioxide.
 

February 08, 2019, 04:08:24 AM
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What seems suspicious is that an Official Investigation has already decided that only 3 Theories are worth investigating, without giving us more information on how they reached that decision  !  ?

Yeah, it would be nice to know how they were able to rule out the other 72 theories when the public is unable to do so, including several authors in the past decade (each supporting their own favored theory).
I have the exact opposite issue - each of the 75 theories, including natural phenomena ones, can be ruled out on some grounds... but where does that leave us :) ?  lol1 lol1

So you have investigated all those 75 Theories  !  ?
DB
 

February 08, 2019, 04:09:43 AM
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What seems suspicious is that an Official Investigation has already decided that only 3 Theories are worth investigating, without giving us more information on how they reached that decision  !  ?

Yeah, it would be nice to know how they were able to rule out the other 72 theories when the public is unable to do so, including several authors in the past decade (each supporting their own favored theory).
I have the exact opposite issue - each of the 75 theories, including natural phenomena ones, can be ruled out on some grounds... but where does that leave us :) ?  lol1 lol1
Nitrogen dioxide.

You are obsessed with NITROGEN  DIOXIDE.
DB
 

February 08, 2019, 04:55:36 AM
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Nigel is wise to consider NO2.  It is a a good candidate.
 

February 08, 2019, 07:02:45 AM
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Nigel is wise to consider NO2.  It is a a good candidate.
Many thanks. The poisonous cloud theory is of course as old as the DPI but afaik i'm the first to connect NO2 with the colour of the skin at the DP and Chivruay. In public anyway....
 

February 08, 2019, 11:58:19 AM
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Nigel is wise to consider NO2.  It is a a good candidate.

Iam not suggesting that Nigel is wrong to discuss NITROGEN DIOXIDE, but to be obsessed with it doesnt necessarily do his cause any good. One can get bogged down with something, and after all there are many possibilities in the Dyatlov Mystery.
DB
 

February 08, 2019, 02:07:50 PM
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Nigel is wise to consider NO2.  It is a a good candidate.
after all there are many possibilities in the Dyatlov Mystery.
and only one of them can explain the skin colour (and everything else).