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Link Between UFO / Creature / Mutilations
Nigel Evans:
I've read that your article below was admitted to be a hoax.
Not just cattle we are led to believe.
https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham
sarapuk:
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on September 24, 2020, 02:01:04 PM ---I've read that your article below was admitted to be a hoax.
Not just cattle we are led to believe.
https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham
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I clicked the link but couldnt find any reference to that story I posted.
Nigel Evans:
--- Quote from: sarapuk on September 28, 2020, 02:32:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on September 24, 2020, 02:01:04 PM ---I've read that your article below was admitted to be a hoax.
Not just cattle we are led to believe.
https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham
--- End quote ---
I clicked the link but couldnt find any reference to that story I posted.
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There wasn't meant to be. kewl1
Here's a link to the hoax story - https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/cow-abduction.htm
sarapuk:
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on September 29, 2020, 06:24:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: sarapuk on September 28, 2020, 02:32:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nigel Evans on September 24, 2020, 02:01:04 PM ---I've read that your article below was admitted to be a hoax.
Not just cattle we are led to believe.
https://www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham
--- End quote ---
I clicked the link but couldnt find any reference to that story I posted.
--- End quote ---
There wasn't meant to be. kewl1
Here's a link to the hoax story - https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/cow-abduction.htm
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But its only an hoax according to one person ! ? And who was that person ! ?
[[ Ufologists rediscovered the account in the early 1960s, and the story rebounded to life through books and magazines. In 1976, however, an elderly Kansas woman came forward to say that shortly before the tale was reported in the Farmer's Advocate, she had heard Hamilton boast to his wife about the story he had made up. Hamilton belonged to a local liars' club that delighted in the concoction of outrageous tall tales. According to the woman, "The club soon broke up after the 'airship and cow' story. I guess that one had topped them all."]]
I found this from UFOnut
[[After the article was published, it was re-printed in newspapers all over America and Europe. In his book “ANATOMY OF PHENOMENA” by researcher Jacques Vallee back in 1965, Jacques brought this article into the media lime light. Later in years some publications including Fate Magazine concluded the event was a hoax due to Alexander Hamilton being part of an elite group of citizens known as “The Liars Club”. Their information came from a 1943 article from a Kansas newspaper called, “The Buffalo Enterprise”, in which Mrs. Donna Steeby of Wichita Kansas wrote that her 93 year old mother, Ethel L Shaw when younger, had actually heard the tall-tale from Hamilton himself and he admitted it was all a hoax.]]
I found this in Texas Monthly.
[[Thanks to a long-forgotten nineteenth-century farmer named John Martin, unidentified flying objects were first described as “saucers” here in Texas. According to the article “A Strange Phenomenon” that appeared in the
Denison Daily News on January 25, 1878, Martin was hunting when he saw “a dark object high in the northern sky.” The news account states that “the peculiar shape and the velocity with which the object seemed to approach riveted his attention, and he strained his eyes to discover its character. When first noticed it appeared to be about the size of an orange, after which it continued to grow larger.
“After gazing at it for some time,” the article continues, “Mr. Martin became blind from long looking and left of viewing to rest his eyes. On resuming his view, the object was almost overhead and had increased considerably in size and appeared to be going through space at a wonderful speed. When directly over him it was about the size of a large saucer and was evidently at great height.” ]]
Note : There is no evidence of a Liars Club in the Kansas area at that time.
Nigel Evans:
It's important to include the hoax story in the conversation to maintain balance.
What's relevant to the DPI here is that the ravine four injuries are consistent with these stories. Falling from a significant height (say 20m) onto snow, limited cattle mutilation style injuries and of course Ivanov's undying belief in fireorbs combined with curious photos.
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