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3- hour struggle for survival at -15° -20 °
Osi:
The snowfall did not stop until the afternoon of February 1. In order not to waste any more time, the group took action in the direction of Otorten. The valley and forest border were under fog. When they reached the 1079 slope around 17:00, it was decided to set up a tent. I think what convinced them to go camping was the temperature being -6, -7 degrees and the heavy snowfall. After eating, they would immediately sleep and continue their journey up the hill early in the morning. At 19:00, they settled into the tent and started preparing for dinner. At around 20.15, a plate separated from the summit and passed over the tent, making it unusable. At 20.25 the tent was cut down and everyone managed to get out of the tent with minor injuries. At 21 o'clock everyone was near the cedar. The snow had stopped. The temperature is -14. First, let's make a fire and dig an Italian hole. Everyone tried to find dry wood. They climbed the tree and scattered around. While 2 Yuri was busy with the fire, the other 7 people found a suitable place in the heavy snow cover, 60 meters away from the cedar, and started digging with their hands. They prepared a bed here for insulation from tree branches. They were planning to go to the fire and warm up after work. When they approached the fire, the fire still hadn't been lit. If a fire cannot be lit, the only solution is a snow cave.Around 22:00 the temperature is -17. Signs of the beginning of hypothermia in all group members. Zina and Dyatlov wanted to return to the tent and win the clothes and the stove. 2 Yuri decided to strengthen the fire. The 5 group members, led by Zolotoryev, were going to explore a snow cave deep into the valley. The group members were separated from each other to the extent that they could no longer communicate. While trying to cross a snow bridge, they all fell into the stream. Lyu and Sasha hit the rocks and crushed their chests. Tibo and Rüstem hit their heads. Kolove He was in good condition. He pulled them out of the water and laid them aside. Kolove was trying to warm them by hugging them and offered to drag them to the fire. But they were very hurt and they rejected this offer. At 22:45, Kolove returned to the cedar.2 Yuri had died by the weak fire and his leg was left on the fire. He laid them aside, took off some clothes and returned to the wet Lyutmila. He tried to warm himself up. Rustem, who had a slight wound on his head, believed that Zina and Dyatlov had found the tent and that they might have lit the stove with their clothes. He got permission from Kolove and went into the tent. At 23:30, Rüstem could not resist and fell into the snow. The temperature was -21 degrees, and finally Kolove fell asleep, hugging the others.
The snow that fell and was blown until the day of the search covered all traces. If around 1 meter of snow had fallen into the valley until the day of the search, it would not be possible to detect them. Lyutmila was lying at the very end of the waterfall. At the end of April, the softening of the snow moved in the direction of the slope, pushing her legs down towards the cliff like a minute hand. Her arms remained in their original position above. I don't take into account the characteristics of people when they die. Those who were better dressed and more active lasted a little longer, that's all. 2 Yuri was scantily clad and his only thought was to light the fire. Unable to do this, the two strong men were the first to die. As someone who has been studying and researching this incident for a long time, this is the scenario I created by using evidence, photographs, diaries, etc. and all the scenes of the incident. And that's what my movie is all about.
GlennM:
We agree on the slab slide theory. All the rest is well thought out and could have happened that way. Good work.
Osi:
You know; In heavy storms or fog, ferry and plane trips are canceled. As an official procedure, the group should not continue due to bad weather conditions. However, after all this hard work and promotion, giving up on this campaign was not attractive to the young people. They would lighten their load and move from the slope. There was an interesting snow cover at the forest border and in the valley. Blown snow. It's a terrible situation where in some places there is no debris and in others you are buried in it. There is no mobility at all. Dyatlov: I would hope he would say, "Hey guys, it's just a plate shift. Keep calm and let's all raise our tent again." They did not understand what was happening and panicked, thinking that the terrible thing would continue. and escape.. They rushed (forced) to light the fire. The place of the fire was in an area open to the wind. Maybe it would have been more successful if the wood had been carried into the pit and burned there. It would take half an hour to dig the hole, and the naked Yuris did not have the strength to wait. They preferred under the cedar. Rüstem's only shoe: He did not have time to put on the other one when leaving the tent, or he had to take it off in the valley because it was filled with water. Kolove; When he reached the cedar, he cut the clothes with Yuri's knife and took the knife into the valley. However, the searchers only retrieved the bodies. They did not search for other objects under the snow.
MDGross:
When Teddy and her colleagues camp on the night of Feb. 1-2 in proximity of the Dyatlov group's tent, maybe a courageous and slightly crazy younger person can begin walking barefooted in one shirt and one pair of pants toward the forest (followed closely by others with blankets, shoes, etc. for the brave soul). If the weather conditions are brutal as in 1959, I don't believe he or she will walk more than 20 minutes before the beginning of hypothermia.
The Dyatlov hikers were in good health and great condition, but they weren't superhuman. The two Yuris, barefoot and wearing the barest of clothing, would have frozen to death long before the two-plus hours that you describe. Just my opinion.
GlennM:
That would surely be a test of endurance. Teddy, as we know advocates for the tent disaster happening in the forest below. I wonder if her plan to stay on the slope is going to modify her opinion. She has put a lot on the line to defend her point of view. If she does not believe the disaster originated there, I am not sure how much effort will be put into undermining her own theory. I do believe she is fair minded, but I think she feels that there were investigations she wanted to pursue onnher last trip which she could not complete. My sense is that isnwherenshe will concentrate her efforts. Additionally, I wonder out loud what sort of artifacts would remain at the proposed camp site. Time, tourism and rains will surely have denuded the site.
Assuming the last camp was where the tent was found, I have to believe the unknown compelljng force was transient. If it is something else, then the metal detector will be of service. So too would specimen bottles for samples to test for unusual and persistant chemicals, radiological residue and perhap even sone disease vector originating in something they may have interacted with,
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