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Theories Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: amashilu on February 22, 2023, 07:00:37 AM

Title: evidence of outsiders - Part II
Post by: amashilu on February 22, 2023, 07:00:37 AM
1. Flashlight on top of 200 mm of snow (8 inches) on the tent. Turned on - it worked.
2. Military puttees -- two of them.
3.  11th pair of skies, found outside the tent. The hikers had nine (arranged under the tent) and a tenth pair was in storage.
4. Bodies were moved after death.
5. A piece of a broken ski 20 m from the tent.
6. A large circle of swept snow, larger than that of helicopter rotor blades.

Put these together, one could surmise:  Someone arrived by helicopter, wearing military puttees, using skiis, left a Chinese flashlight on the tent, and moved some bodies.
Title: Re: evidence of outsiders - Part II
Post by: GlennM on February 22, 2023, 07:23:44 AM
More indicative of rescue/ recovery  than assault. #1 of evidence list confirms this. All the rest support #1 which supports R&R.
Title: Re: evidence of outsiders - Part II
Post by: Ziljoe on February 22, 2023, 08:53:58 AM
Teddy wrote this and here's the link with the links. It mentions the number of ski's and different numbers. Also it mentions the torch on the tent  belonging to Igor.


https://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=595.msg8503#msg8503

In the case files we have 3 different counts of the skis found at the tent and the labaz:

Feb 28, 1959 The protocol of the hikers camp site mentions 8 pair of skis on the bottom of the tent, no mentioning of spare pair of skis. Signed by Tempalov.
Apr 15, 1959 Slobtsov who found the tent and the labaz, says "around the tent in the snow stood ski poles and spare skis - 1 pair" (sheet 298 back) and "a pair of spare skis" in the labaz (sheet 300).
Apr 18, 1959 Tempalov in his testimony says 9 pair of skis, all of them under the bottom of the tent and additional spare pair of skis in the tent.
Title: Re: evidence of outsiders - Part II
Post by: GlennM on February 22, 2023, 05:13:23 PM
For me, the findings confirm the tent always being on 1079, irregardless of the effects of weather, communications and memory on the observer's. It is just too much stuff to move and stage as a make believe camp by imaginary killers.
Title: Re: evidence of outsiders - Part II
Post by: Per Inge Oestmoen on March 21, 2023, 08:55:24 AM
Put these together, one could surmise:  Someone arrived by helicopter, wearing military puttees, using skiis, left a Chinese flashlight on the tent, and moved some bodies.


The killers were the likely ones who moved the bodies.
Title: Re: evidence of outsiders - Part II
Post by: anna_pycckux on March 21, 2023, 12:59:06 PM
When all of these factors are considered, it is possible to conclude that someone arrived by helicopter, used skis, military puttees, left a Chinese flashlight on the tent, and relocated some remains. (https://upgreeno.com/how-to-propagate-monstera/)
There is a very high probability that the liquidators were from the military of the Ivdel Gulag. The order came from the party organs.
Title: Re: evidence of outsiders - Part II
Post by: anna_pycckux on April 05, 2023, 03:51:07 AM
From an article in the newspaper "ura.ru " for 2016: the participants of the expedition to the Dyatlov Pass in 2016 found spent cartridges under a cedar tree,
two old Soviet signal cartridges.
This was announced by the head of the expedition. Apparently, when the bodies were found, signal shots were fired.
(https://i.ibb.co/XDVFDkm/2016.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KDmVDzC)
Title: Re: evidence of outsiders - Part II
Post by: tenne on April 06, 2023, 09:11:29 AM
If we are going to consider the amount of effort a government would put into a cover-up, then the cover-up of where the D daylanding would occur is a perfect example of governments being able to create huge multi layer coverups.

It is not only possible that a government could create a Cover up but there is proof it has been done.

The case of the frog man, military diver, who was murdered and disfigured and left in a prominent position to show they knew who he was is also proof of the efforts government can and will do for coverups
Title: Re: evidence of outsiders - Part II
Post by: KathleenDSmith1 on September 11, 2023, 07:35:00 PM
Everyone:

I do believe that all 9 Hikers were murdered and when and how that the question???, In Atmanaki Georgiy Testimony Case files 209-220 talks on a a person of Bahityarov's family did not talk Russian and had a bad dialect... This person could be the "Outsider" but with who???


page 210:  Gradually, the whole forest was covered with them, and the native signs of Mansi called Kakpos (Katpos - ed. note). Then we continued entirely on the snow i.e. the direction of the ski tracks did not suit us. When we climbed the foothills the weather deteriorated sharply: a snowstorm started, snow fell, the visibility was completely lost, and we stopped navigating. For the sake of prudence we turned back. At the foot we met Mansi (someone from the Bahtiyarovs' family), the conversation did not turn out, because he almost did not speak Russian, and from us no one was strong in their dialect. We managed to find out that we are standing on the Lohan river, i.e. we did not quite get to Toshemka, and this is why Chistop massif turned out to be in the west. Bahtiyarov's yourt was 20 km to the south of us. We went back and on the way met the family of Bahtiyarov (Alexei Prokopievich, his son and daughter), and there was also a "poor" relative. From them, we have become more articulate about our whereabouts.

https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-209-220?lid=1


Thanks
Kathleen Dee Smith