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General Discussion / Re: Route to Otorten

« Last post by Hunter on July 10, 2026, 08:02:12 AM »

Sarapuk, it's unlikely they decided to test themselves in such conditions. It's too dangerous—in the event of an emergency, it's possible to end up with not just seriously injured people, but dead bodies. And someone would have to answer to the law for that.

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General Discussion / Re: Petition to reopen the case

« Last post by SURI on July 09, 2026, 10:14:29 PM »

Or the fundamental question of why they pitched the tent on such an exposed hillside in bad weather conditions. Etc. Many etcetera's.

But there is a simple answer to that. Because it was planned. Under all circumstances, the tent had to stand right there.

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General Discussion / Re: Petition to reopen the case

« Last post by GlennM on July 09, 2026, 08:46:13 PM »

For me it still reduces to natural causes. I fully appreciate the counter intuitive behavior of leaving the tent. Sarapuk speaks to his experience in bad conditions camping when companions retreated to the car. I also appreciate the strangeness of laying out the Yuris. I find it odd that Lyuda and Zolo had damage from the front while Tibo had it from behind and the side while Kolevatov was relatively unaffected but one could point to neck dislocation. It is peculiar that after leaving the tent and going downhill for a mile that Igor, Rustem and Zina all physically depleted would even consider an uphill trek
 
I still think the deadly cold requires the  fewest assumptions. They cut out of the tent. This is avalanche 101.  In this case slab slide 101. They are uncertain if more is to come. Their two immediate concerns are heat and shelter. They get progressively colder and more clumsy on the way down. The posture of the R4 group does not suggest blast, but crush.  IRZ they to make for the tent because there is no other alternative. None of this requires additional human agency .i could be wrong about all of this, but at least by taking the position of all natural causes, it gives the forum a clear opportunity in every single aspect of the case to argue why natural causation is impossible. I believe every aspect of the case can be explained by Nature and natural forces.

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General Discussion / Re: Petition to reopen the case

« Last post by Hunter on July 09, 2026, 08:26:19 PM »

That modern investigation of some years ago appeared to be a nice little cover-up.

It's important to understand the specifics of law enforcement agencies in some former Soviet countries. They find it extremely difficult to admit the mistakes of even their predecessors. As one acquaintance put it, they'd rather drink a glass of vinegar than admit they were wrong. That's why this prosecutorial investigation was conducted. But they also ended up in a mess.

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General Discussion / Re: Route to Otorten

« Last post by GlennM on July 09, 2026, 06:29:54 PM »

My contention is that the group had a timetable to keep. They were well aware from their uphill climb that deep snow in the valley made for slow progress. The ridge route makes better sense providing the weather permits it. Their situation was pretty straight forward. It they were to achieve Ortoten, they were going to take the path of least resistance and that was not plodding in deep snow. They tried and were repelled by the wind, but attempted it again the next day with the idea that any forward progress is good progress. So, if it took them two days on the ridge to get to Ortoten, that is better than giving up or taking a far worse forest route. Hopefully there would be a break in the weather and they could make a dash. It was not to be. 

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General Discussion / Re: Petition to reopen the case

« Last post by GlennM on July 09, 2026, 06:20:38 PM »

And of course the tent ( read incriminating evidence) was immediately disposed of, not kept in storage nor used as a blanket for outdoor picnics. No, it was hiding in plain sight. That is how you cover up the perfect crime...or not. Too bad it got wet and moldy, the deception could have existed to this very day.

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General Discussion / Re: Petition to reopen the case

« Last post by sarapuk on July 09, 2026, 04:57:17 PM »

Signing the petition is pointless. The investigator's death now means the investigation will be left with a so-called "cold case"—a criminal case that cannot be solved. And no law enforcement agency will agree to that. The attempted "prosecutor's investigation" several years ago was a failed attempt to finally close the Dyatlov group case without acknowledging the mistakes of the 1959 investigation, but it was executed extremely clumsily.

That modern investigation of some years ago appeared to be a nice little cover-up.

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General Discussion / Re: Petition to reopen the case

« Last post by sarapuk on July 09, 2026, 04:55:59 PM »

I can not read minds but to my mind, Tatiana and the living relatives of the DP9 are well aware that those who had a sincere regard for the alpine tragedy have been replaced with those who are set on finding fault and placing blame.in this regard, blaming the hikers, or anyone even peripherally associated with the case is fair game. Why? It sells, and as Ziljoe points out, it is self revealing.

I do not think reopening the case is going to make any positive difference. What it will do is scatter bodies, sell books, invite cult behavior and move a naturally caused hiking accident into the realm of the surreal and occult. None of it will in any way answer the only question of significance, that is "Why did they leave the tent?"

That tent. The tent that conveniently disappeared after being kept in storage until the USSR collapsed. And until people started to talk about this strange Dyatlov mystery. And of course, why did they pitch that tent in such an exposed position?

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General Discussion / Re: Petition to reopen the case

« Last post by sarapuk on July 09, 2026, 04:50:48 PM »

I think we all know there is a movement afoot to open the case once again.

The petition to reopen the case is a plea to restore honor to the memory of the lost. Is this an indictment of those who didn't do their jobs in 1959 or is it a way of stopping profiteering?  Will any of it address the fundamental question of why they left the tent?

Or the fundamental question of why they pitched the tent on such an exposed hillside in bad weather conditions. Etc. Many etcetera's.

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General Discussion / Re: Route to Otorten

« Last post by sarapuk on July 09, 2026, 04:47:21 PM »

The stop was clearly forced. The question is what forced them to do so: an injury to one of the expedition members or worsening weather conditions. I see no real evidence that an overnight stay at that location was planned in advance.

This question of why they decided to pitch their tent on that very exposed hillside is just one of the concerning questions that are inescapable in this Dyatlov mystery. Was it part of their plan to test themselves, or was it because they miscalculated their journey, or was it because they were scared of something down along the route that they had travelled near the forest?