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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by SURI on May 13, 2026, 12:08:42 PM »
You have to consider other circumstances than just the autopsy reports. According to Ivanov, a crime occurred and he had irrefutable evidence to prove it. You're still missing a lot.
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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by GlennM on May 13, 2026, 11:15:33 AM »
On the other hand, a locomotive travelling at 1 MPH can inflict massive disfiguring damage to a stationary object. They need not be blasted. They could be crushed.
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I know who Ivanov is accusing, but it's not fireballs. Soldiers or rockets are not related to the case. Ivanov makes that very clear.
The point is that we should focus on the autopsy reports, which are available in the case files. Especially, on the reports for Dubinina, Zolotarev, and Thibo, who had severe and strange injuries. Their 3 reports are augmented by doctor Vozrozhdenniy's interrogation, where he suggests 3 options for traumatic force:
- strong gust of wind throwing people on rocks;
- automobile at high speed;
- blast air wave.
What is important, each of these forces is dozens times stronger than a human being can develop. Even a group of people combining their efforts cannot develop such a force. And if we look closer at these 3 forces, they all work almost the same way: a victim and a 'force' meet at high speed, the victim gets traumas contacting with vast 'strike area' of the 'force'. It has nothing in common with combat mechanics when people fight. The force which killed Dubinina, Zolotarev, and Thibo was not human.
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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by SURI on May 13, 2026, 10:22:14 AM »
It sounds like Ivanov calls to investigate fireball's nature and even try to catch and interrogate their pilots. Also he openly accuses fireballs (or their operators) of killing the hikers, see it?

I understand that. I know who Ivanov is accusing, but it's not fireballs. Soldiers or rockets are not related to the case. Ivanov makes that very clear.
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Interviews / Re: Lawyer Proshkin on the dead cosmonaut 02|02|59
« Last post by amashilu on May 13, 2026, 09:46:41 AM »
Karelin also suggested this (that there had been hope of an impressive rocket launch during the XXI Congress) way back in 1990.

https://dyatlovpass.com/karelin-recollections

" .... In addition, he was at the congress a representative of the Sverdlovsk party organization. It is possible that he discussed with scientists the failed rocket launch on February 2, 1959. By the way, later Mitrofan Nedelin died at the cosmodrome during an unsuccessful rocket launch aka Nedelin catastrophe. It can be assumed that some of the high-ranking leaders (most likely Dmitry Ustinov) really wanted to time the "new victory in space" exactly at the time of the XXI Congress of the CPSU. Probably they were in a hurry with the launch of the new series of missiles. Unfortunately, all three launches of the new series were unsuccessful. And they were simply not mentioned anywhere, as if they never existed... Over the past years, I have addressed letters to many authorities and to individuals with the only question: "Were there any unsuccessful missile launches on February 2 and 17 and March 31, 1959?" But I have not received an answer to any of my letters."
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There's no point in chasing fireballs, Ivanov clearly ruled them out.
Do these Ivanov's words mean that fireballs are to be ruled out?  nea1

"And again about the fireballs. They were and still are. It is only necessary not to hush up their appearance, but to deeply understand their nature. The vast majority of the witnesses that I met talk about the peaceful nature of their behavior, but, as you see, there are also tragic exceptions. Someone needed to frighten or punish people, or show their strength, and they did this, killing three people. I know all the details of this incident and I can say that only those who were in these balls know about these circumstances more than me."

It sounds like Ivanov calls to investigate fireball's nature and even try to catch and interrogate their pilots. Also he openly accuses fireballs (or their operators) of killing the hikers, see it?
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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by SURI on May 13, 2026, 07:10:07 AM »
There's no point in chasing fireballs, Ivanov clearly ruled them out. He used them only to illustrate what happened. But many take it literally.

Ivanov
„Older people may recall what it was like: just recently launched an artificial Earth satellite, it announced trials of atomic and then hydrogen weapons (as it was called then), and many associated these mysterious phenomena, including unidentified flying objects with military tests, but investigative actions indicated that the case of Dyatlov group had nothing to do with military tests.“
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Meteor / Re: Meteor today
« Last post by GlennM on May 13, 2026, 06:25:24 AM »
In 2013 the world was startled by a brilliant fireball that streaked across the sky above Chelyabinsk, Russia. The house-sized meteoroid entered the atmosphere at over 11 miles (18 kilometers) per second and blew apart 14 miles (23 kilometers) above the ground. The explosion released the energy equivalent of around 440,000 tons of TNT and generated a shock wave that blew out windows over 200 square miles (518 square kilometers) and damaged buildings. More than 1,600 people were injured in the blast, mostly due to broken glass

If the same happened near 1079, certainly other people in other places would notice. This phenomenon is inconsistent with a report of a night time camp guard waking up the sleepers who watch it for some 5 minutes and wander in a daze until some guy shoots off his gun and they all gomto bed. Nonsense on stilts!
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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by SURI on May 13, 2026, 02:40:23 AM »
Kuzminov describes the same thing as Ivanov. Each one speaks in their own style of speaking about the same thing. But they are not literal fireballs. Balls cannot rewrite diaries.
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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by Ziljoe on May 13, 2026, 12:26:44 AM »
Thank you, I was having problems with the links last night. Adverts kept popping up.

I'm not sure that they are UFO obsessed but rather perhaps getting some kind of reward for sharing their story. The papers and TV programs that air the stories also did, forteian times, paranormal programs too. The spawning of these stories all came out with various books of UFOs for example , no different than the explosion in the west. ( I bought a few) . Oddly enough , whilst searching another story came up from 1993 in Russia, it was allegedly about soldiers shooting at a UFO and the aliens attacked back turning 20 or so soldiers into limestone. Even the CIA followed the story. ( The mind boggles)

I don't think they would approach such a non professional form of publishing if they were serious about their claims ?.

I would have thought everyone would be saying in their statements that some idiot was shooting a gun in the middle of the night and there was a bright light in the sky , also, they had cameras and many minutes to try and take a photo of what they saw. The story doesn't add up but that might be memory as is suggested.

Personally , with everything I can find, it looks like there were lights in the sky, but there always is and these were reported by too many people not to be one persons imagination but it's either tests or nature in the sky.

Here's the alleged CIA version below, it's got to be a joke...

C00386418

*** Document 199 of 54 FBIS

T.ME/BANKI.OIL

DOCN 000103001

CLAS UNCLAS 3A/PHU

SERIAL NUMBER: AU3003152893

PASS PASS:

ATTH BBC SD

COUN COUNTRY: RUSSIA INTERNATIONAL

SUBJ SUBJ:

PAPER REPORTS ALLEGED EVIDENCE ON MISHAP INVOLVING UFO

SOUR SOURCE: KIEV HOLOS UKRAYINY IN UKRAINIAN 27 MAR 93 P 5

TEXT TEXT:

//((REPRINT FROM THE NEWSPAPER TERNOPIL VECHIRNIY: REVENGE FIRST PARAGRAPH PUBLISHED IN BOLDFACE)) "COSMIC

((TEXT)) AFTER MIKHAIL GORBACHEV DISSOLVED, IN 1991, THE KGB TOP SECRET INTELLIGENCE ADMINISTRATION, A LOT OF MATERIAL FROM THAT DEPARTMENT FOUND THEIR WAY ABROAD, IN PARTICULAR TO THE CIA, AS REPORTED BY THE AUTHORITATIVE MAGAZINE CANADIAN WEEKLY WORLD NEWS, *U.S. INTELLIGENCE OBTAINED A 250-PAGE FILE ON THE ATTACK BY A UFO ON A MILITARY UNIT IN SIBERIA.

THE FILE CONTAINS NOT ONLY MANY DOCUMENTARY PHOTOGRAPHS AND DRAWINGS, BUT ALSO TESTIMONIES BY ACTUAL PARTICIPANTS IN THE EVENTS. ONE OF THE CIA REPRESENTATIVES REFERRED TO THIS CASE AS "A HORRIFIC *PICTURE OF REVENGE ON THE PART OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL CREATURES, A PICTURE THAT MAKES ONE'S BLOOD FREEZE."

ACCORDING TO THE KGB MATERIALS, A QUITE LOW-FLYING SPACESHIP IN THE SHAPE OF A SAUCER APPEARED ABOVE A MILITARY UNIT THAT WAS CONDUCTING ROUTINE TRAINING MANEUVERS. FOR UNKNOWN REASONS, SOMEBODY UNEXPECTEDLY LAUNCHED A SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE AND HIT THE UFO. IT FELL TO EARTH NOT FAR AWAY, AND FIVE SHORT HUMANOIDS WITH "LARGE HEADS AND LARGE BLACK EYES" EMERGED FROM IT.

IT IS STATED IN THE TESTIMONIES BY THE TWO SOLDIERS WHO REMAINED ALIVE THAT, AFTER FREEING THEMSELVES FROM THE DEBRIS, THE ALIENS CAME CLOSE TOGETHER AND THEN "MERGED INTO A SINGLE OBJECT THAT ACQUIRED A SPHERICAL SHAPE." THAT OBJECT BEGAN TO BUZZ AND HISS SHARPLY, AND THEN BECAME BRILLIANT WHITE. IN A FEW SECONDS, THE SPHERES GREW MUCH BIGGER AND EXPLODED BY FLARING UP WITH AN EXTREMELY BRIGHT LIGHT. AT THAT VERY INSTANT, 23 SOLDIERS WHO HAD WATCHED THE PHENOMENON TURNED INTO... STONE POLES. ONLY TWO SOLDIERS WHO STOOD IN THE SHADE AND WERE LESS EXPOSED TO THE LUMINOUS EXPLOSION SURVIVED.

THE KGB REPORT GOES ON TO SAY THAT THE REMAINS OF THE UFO AND THE "PETRIFIED SOLDIERS" WERE TRANSFERRED TO A SECRET SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH INSTITUTION NEAR MOSCOW. SPECIALISTS ASSUME THAT A SOURCE OF ENERGY THAT IS STILL UNKNOWN TO EARTHLINGS INSTANTLY CHANGED THE STRUCTURE OF THE SOLDIERS' LIVING ORGANISMS, HAVING TRANSFORMED IT INTO A SUBSTANCE WHOSE MOLECULAR COMPOSITION IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF LIMESTONE.

A CIA REPRESENTATIVE STATED: "IF THE KGB FILE CORRESPONDS TO REALITY, THIS IS AN EXTREMELY MENACING CASE. THE ALIENS POSSESS SUCH WEAPONS AND TECHNOLOGY THAT GO BEYOND ALL OUR ASSUMPTIONS.

THEY CAN STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES IF ATTACKED. (ENDALL) BT 23003.03 27 MAR

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