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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by GlennM on June 03, 2026, 05:18:45 PM » For one do not believe crushing injuries happened at the tent. I do however believe the canvas collapsed on those inside. They, in turn, cut themselves free. Given the conditions of available light, amount of snow, the uncertainty of additional snow, the risk of crawling back inside the tent for supplies and the uselessness of ski boots when skis skis can't be reached , they opted to get out of the cold, get warm, wait and return.
I can believe serious injuries happened in the ravine owing to their atttempt to create a makeshift cave for up to nine people.
I do not support the idea that a fall onto snow covered ground from a nominal 12 feet perch in a cedar tree is going to kill anyone, let alone two physically fit Soviet hikers.
My idea leans toward bad weather and insufficient resources as the cause for getting them out of the tent. I like the idea that the icy, rocky, slippery and wet slope to the forest created injuries that slowed progress. I think that once people got wet, there was no amount of fire drying of wet clothes that would be sufficient.
The Yuri's may have tried some sort of heroism in gathering supplies, but they died in the effort most likely not from nor at the cedar.
A possibility exists that Igor and Zolo had a disagreement about next steps in survival. Zolo and other opting for a cave, Igor opting for the tent. Equally, they all could have gone to the ravine and when the collapse happened IRZ left for the tent and what first aid and sledging supplies they had.
As experienced as they all were, I feel they misjudged distances, their own resiliance and the duration of the weather. Of the three it was the weather that decided their fate.
I can believe serious injuries happened in the ravine owing to their atttempt to create a makeshift cave for up to nine people.
I do not support the idea that a fall onto snow covered ground from a nominal 12 feet perch in a cedar tree is going to kill anyone, let alone two physically fit Soviet hikers.
My idea leans toward bad weather and insufficient resources as the cause for getting them out of the tent. I like the idea that the icy, rocky, slippery and wet slope to the forest created injuries that slowed progress. I think that once people got wet, there was no amount of fire drying of wet clothes that would be sufficient.
The Yuri's may have tried some sort of heroism in gathering supplies, but they died in the effort most likely not from nor at the cedar.
A possibility exists that Igor and Zolo had a disagreement about next steps in survival. Zolo and other opting for a cave, Igor opting for the tent. Equally, they all could have gone to the ravine and when the collapse happened IRZ left for the tent and what first aid and sledging supplies they had.
As experienced as they all were, I feel they misjudged distances, their own resiliance and the duration of the weather. Of the three it was the weather that decided their fate.

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