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General Discussion / Re: picture of the lights
« Last post by GlennM on April 22, 2026, 07:00:30 AM »
I think what Senior does not appreciate is that if the DPI were a mikitary accident/ incident, then the military, not civilian authorities would take control. On the other hand, if it were a civil accident/incident, then military involvement would be discouraged because their authority would complicate any cover up. If it were political assassination,  the imvestigation would be curtailed outright, but much more probable is the system making a public exaample of the deceased.

5he DPI was a weather related tragedy resulting from youth who anticipated success, but were too poorly equipped and funded to survive the rigors and variables of the hike. Everything in the criminal ( poor label) case points to it. Nothing points elsewhere. Those who lean into conspiracy just lack the facts, so they compensate with logical constructions. Logic is not truth.
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General Discussion / Re: picture of the lights
« Last post by Ziljoe on April 22, 2026, 05:01:44 AM »
“Different prosecutors proposing different variants of an environmental trigger doesn’t imply camouflage — it reflects incomplete data and normal Soviet bureaucratic inconsistency. The case files don’t show evidence of a directed or malevolent cause, and they don’t show evidence of a cover‑up either.”
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General Discussion / Re: picture of the lights
« Last post by Senior Maldonado on April 22, 2026, 01:34:45 AM »
The evidence we do have, while not conclusive, consistently points toward a weather‑driven scenario. More importantly, that’s exactly where the case files themselves land. The investigators reached the same place: something in the environment forced the group out, they just couldn’t determine the exact mechanism.
I reserve the right to have different opinion. The evidence we have consistently points that Urakov, Okishev, and Ivanov did excellent work to camouflage what happened in reality. Lots of people do believe that the No-number case and corresponding case files truly reflect the DPI investigation process and outcome. I am glad to see that Soviet Prosecutor's Office workers had such high qualification and skills. This indicates that investigations of criminal cases, where they did not have management pressure for predefined results, were peanuts for them.

As for the 'Bad weather' theory proponents, I am waiting with genuine curiosity which kind of natural calamity they will select finally. The russian officials propose good variety of choices:
- Big Hurricane (Khruschev and the Central Committee);
- Avalanche + collapse of a snow cornice (prosecutor Shkryabach);
- Avalanche + one more Avalanche (prosecutor Kuryakov);
- leave it anonymous (prosecutor Ivanov).
 grin1

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Lunar Tide welcome to the forum. It's good to have our Canadian friends participate. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis of the event. Be aware that most theories wind up being more or less selective in what the author emphasizes in his/her theory. This selectivity is why so far, no theory has become universally accepted. Only 10 actually know what actually happened out there, nine hikers and God. We all want to be the eleventh  thumb1

I appreciate the welcome, GlennM! I completely agree that the truth of what happened out there is something we can only speculate about.
 grin1
I’m honestly just here to offer a different point of view—one derived from their humanity and their autonomy. Recognizing them as the experienced adventurers they were.
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Lunar Tide welcome to the forum. It's good to have our Canadian friends participate. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis of the event. Be aware that most theories wind up being more or less selective in what the author emphasizes in his/her theory. This selectivity is why so far, no theory has become universally accepted. Only 10 actually know what actually happened out there, nine hikers and God. We all want to be the eleventh  thumb1
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General Discussion / Re: Diaries
« Last post by GlennM on April 21, 2026, 08:33:12 PM »
You guys can't be serious about this, are you? its not about a sheet of paper on the tent, its about the tent on the sheet of paper! okey1
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General Discussion / Re: Lights in the Sky
« Last post by GlennM on April 21, 2026, 08:29:52 PM »
...well, things were going poorly in the forest, maybe it was time to IRZ to cut their losses and get back to the tent, suit up and bug out for the labaz and Vizhay.

They should have suited up before they left their tent. If something scared them so much that they fled their tent, not properly dressed, then I doubt that they would have been keen to go back to their tent.
Yet, that is exactly where they were headed. Being scared is an assumption. Suiting up takes time and the availability of the clothes. A snow covered collapsed tent makes that difficult, not impossible. They really did not have much chance for success. Once the body core temp falls to 85 degrees, death is not too far away.
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General Discussion / Re: Lights in the Sky
« Last post by sarapuk on April 21, 2026, 03:12:25 PM »
...well, things were going poorly in the forest, maybe it was time to IRZ to cut their losses and get back to the tent, suit up and bug out for the labaz and Vizhay.

They should have suited up before they left their tent. If something scared them so much that they fled their tent, not properly dressed, then I doubt that they would have been keen to go back to their tent.
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General Discussion / Re: Diaries
« Last post by sarapuk on April 21, 2026, 03:06:21 PM »
It's unknown when "Evening Otorten" was painted. But it's unlikely it was painted on a slope. It's certain it was painted after Kolevatov abandoned his sled for transporting goods.

But why was it fastened to the tent on the slope?
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General Discussion / Re: picture of the lights
« Last post by Ziljoe on April 21, 2026, 02:47:28 PM »
Yes — and the evidence we do have, while not conclusive, consistently points toward a weather‑driven scenario. More importantly, that’s exactly where the case files themselves land. The investigators reached the same place: something in the environment forced the group out, they just couldn’t determine the exact mechanism.
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