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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by GlennM on June 03, 2026, 05:18:45 PM »
 For one do not believe crushing injuries happened at the tent. I do however believe the canvas collapsed on those inside. They, in turn, cut themselves free. Given the conditions of available light, amount of snow, the  uncertainty of additional snow, the risk of crawling back inside the tent for supplies and the uselessness of ski boots when skis skis can't be reached , they opted to get out of the cold, get warm, wait and return.

I can believe serious injuries happened in the ravine owing to their atttempt to create a makeshift cave for up to nine people.

I do not support the idea that a fall onto snow covered ground from a nominal 12 feet perch in a cedar tree is going to kill anyone, let alone two physically fit Soviet hikers.

My idea leans toward bad weather and insufficient resources as the cause for getting them out of the tent. I like the idea that the icy, rocky, slippery and wet slope to the forest created injuries that slowed progress. I think that once people got wet, there was no amount of fire drying of wet clothes that would be sufficient.

The Yuri's  may have tried some sort of heroism in gathering supplies, but they died in the effort most likely not from nor at the cedar.

A possibility exists that Igor and Zolo had a disagreement about next steps in survival. Zolo and other opting for a cave, Igor opting for the tent. Equally, they all could have gone to the ravine and when the collapse happened IRZ left for the tent and what first aid and sledging supplies they had.

As experienced as they all were, I feel they misjudged distances, their own resiliance and the duration of the weather. Of the three it was the weather that decided their fate.


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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there
« Last post by GlennM on June 03, 2026, 04:55:25 PM »
Sarapuk  read me in on the circular patch, OK?
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General Discussion / Re: 100 questions to Askinadzi
« Last post by GlennM on June 03, 2026, 04:53:08 PM »
 okey1 Nyet!
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Interviews / Re: Lawyer Proshkin on the dead cosmonaut 02|02|59
« Last post by amashilu on June 03, 2026, 02:09:28 PM »
Is it not the case that in this Dyatlov mystery, there crops up regularly the suggestion that it was a result of a failed military test of some kind? So we see variations on the theme. Even though there is absolutely no evidence that there was any failure of a military nature.

Yes, however, this version is different in that the failed launch was not a "test." It was to be a proud triumph of technology presented to impress the XXI Congress.
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General Discussion / Re: 100 questions to Askinadzi
« Last post by sarapuk on June 03, 2026, 01:21:58 PM »
If there was a bit of cultural commonality in the 50's.Both Soviet East and the American West had a " thing" for aerial phenomena. Other than the big nuke, this may also tie into the literary genre of science fiction. Science Fiction tends to fall into two camps, Social Science Fiction and Travelogues. The former being political, the latter, escapism. In Social Science Fiction the devices and the LGM are symbolic elements, usually a veiled criticism of politics, governments and power drunk leadership.  Lights in the sky? Invasion? Big Brother? Alien contact? Mind control? It is symptomatic of societies developing far faater than any before. Uncertainty breeds fear, fear finds an outlet in fiction, people read the fiction and filter reality through it.
We are smarter than that in today's world. Not all of us though. It still sells tickets.

But who is dragging fiction and fact together !? You are introducing fiction and science fiction and mixing it up with facts!
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General Discussion / Re: 100 questions to Askinadzi
« Last post by sarapuk on June 03, 2026, 01:16:02 PM »
In 1949, the Soviet Union developed a preliminary design for a missile submarine under the designation Project P-2 [pl], intended to strike land targets.[6] The design was developed by CKB-18 (later the Rubin Design Bureau). The submarine was projected to have a surface displacement of nearly 5,400 tons and to carry 12 R-1 missiles (Soviet versions of the V-2) and Lastochka cruise missiles.[7] However, the program encountered numerous issues that the designers could not overcome,[3] including, among others, problems with stabilizing the missile prior to launch.[8] In the early phase of developing sea-to-land missile systems, the Soviet Union regarded this kind of weapon solely as a tactical asset without strategic significance.[3]


It's just another missile to add to the collection of missiles and missile theories, though !
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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there
« Last post by sarapuk on June 03, 2026, 01:08:22 PM »
An investigation of the site where" lights in the sky come down to earth"should leave evidence in the form of trails, cuts, imprints and missed debris. These though may be entirely lost to time.Naturally, this is not what modern day researchers are hoping for. I honestly do not believe it happened at all. You are right to suggest a search in other places than the well travelled gravel from tent to cedar.  I'd search Google Earth for some evidence before I stomped the ground. My intuition tells me that artifacts lost to time still exist in written form in an archive.

Wasn't there a mention of a circular patch not far from the tent site !?
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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there
« Last post by sarapuk on June 03, 2026, 01:06:31 PM »
I am doubtful as well. As the search team was allowed at the slope in 1959, there was no concern they would find anything. Which means cleanup excercise had been done already. Also, I see no point to look for rocket's debris on Otorten. The hikers would not have left the tent, if the rocket had fallen on Otorten -- it's too far away. The good spot to search is at the other side of the ridge -- go up from the tent's site and go a little bit down on the other side.


Clean up exercise. And what exactly was supposed to have been cleaned? The tent was not cleaned, or all the stuff found inside it. The bodies were not, or the clothing was not cleaned either.
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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there
« Last post by sarapuk on June 03, 2026, 01:02:28 PM »


The DP9 chose a rare place to do a long hike and would certainly deserve the Grade 3 rating. Too bad about the weather.

Going there on Google Earth or maps is not the same as going there for real. But I often travel to remote places on the internet as I'm sure many of us do. The best part is when you can get down on the ground and travel along the roads or tracks in many cases. Alas, not in the Dyatlov Pass area, though. Maybe one day, though. Until then, it's the hard slog or watching what others post on the internet.
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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by sarapuk on June 03, 2026, 12:53:23 PM »


Sorry, Ziljoe, the English language was my worst subject at school. I will attempt rectification.

Your English is fine. That's wasn't what I was meaning. It's the editing of the reply post. For some reason your posting your post in the previous person's post so it looks like other people are saying what is actually your post. I too, am poor at English and failed miserably. It's just if you preview your post you can spot the error and put the correct coding in for the end of the quote . I hope that makes sense.


Thankyou. I will try my best.
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